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am: no, and by your personal definition that seemingly applies only to me instead of the other one-line "trolls" on this goddamn shithole of a "community," yes.

tSoL is homophobic, too. Seven is much the better of the high-grossing Grimm's fairytales of the '90s.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

am: no, and by your personal definition that seemingly applies only to me instead of the other one-line "trolls" on this goddamn shithole of a "community," yes.

please leave, then.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

i dug rachel getting married but i dont know if i would if i re-screened it.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

however i think rachel getting married to the mob would be a pretty amazing movie.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

think about it.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

i dug rachel getting married but i dont know if i would if i re-screened it.

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:58 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

picturing you in a roger ebert-like basement screening room with big plush seating and a 35mm projector. "roll film, please!"

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

"roll film, mother!"

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

i dug rachel getting married but i dont know if i would if i re-screened it

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:58 AM

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 March 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

wow, dr morbs, your littl thread-bombs are transcendently irritating. would you ever care to actually explain, the first time out, any of your devastating contraventions of conventional wisdom? or is trolling just, you know, your thing?

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:11 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol this movie

― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:12 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

formerly known as lol this guy

― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:26 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this guy

― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Sunday, 15 November 2009 03:15 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this guy

― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:15 PM

like i said

― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Thursday, 31 December 2009 19:49 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this guy

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 22 October 2011 00:10 (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

amplify?

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 October 2011 00:28 (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

he made Storefront Hitchcock so he'll always be alright by me. Plus he was super nice the one time I met him.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

Are we still talking about Morbs

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

Haven't met Morbs. And I doubt his Storefront Hitchcock would be about Robyn.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

hey did anybody see the pilot of that Patrick Wilson "Doctor Who Sees Ghosts" show that Demme directed? Rough, clumsy stuff.

da croupier, Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

lol this movie

― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:12 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

formerly known as lol this guy

― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:26 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this guy

― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Sunday, 15 November 2009 03:15 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this guy

― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:15 PM

like i said

― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Thursday, 31 December 2009 19:49 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this guy

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 22 October 2011 00:10 (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

amplify?

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 October 2011 00:28 (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― Ward Fowler, Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:01 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark

http://i.imgur.com/xnbty.gif

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

hey slocki, since i got a lot of shit from you on the rgm thread for not digging the movie, i'm curious why you think you wouldn't like it now

da croupier, Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

I've gotten some blowback on recommending Something Wild to people lately. Even if people admit the movie does more with the manic pixie dream girl archetype than most, they're still not glad they saw a movie where Melanie Griffith is a manic pixie dream girl.

da croupier, Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

I love Something Wild. Mr Veg made me watch it a fews ago, I love how it turns into a whole other movie

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

*a few years*

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i had be like "no, no, there's a tonal shift! just wait!" around the hotel scene

da croupier, Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I was NOT excited about it at all at first, lol

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

Difference is Griffith actually feels like a genuinely nutty and endearing character, not the random assemblage of indie quirks that made up later iterations of the form. She's more of a screwball heroine than anything

Number None, Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

^^^

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

I think people are skeptical because Melanie Griffith has basically become a manic aging pixie.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 March 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

Working Girl and Something Wild are maybe the only 2 movies I've really enjoyed her in, where I haven't wanted to stab myself in the eye.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

She's amazing here. Demme gives her a closeup after Charlie unwittingly reveals how much she means to him that's devastating.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

wow, dr morbs, your littl thread-bombs are transcendently irritating. would you ever care to actually explain, the first time out, any of your devastating contraventions of conventional wisdom? or is trolling just, you know, your thing?

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:11 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol this movie

― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:12 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

formerly known as lol this guy

― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:26 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this guy

― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Sunday, 15 November 2009 03:15 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this guy

― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:15 PM

like i said

― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Thursday, 31 December 2009 19:49 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this guy

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 22 October 2011 00:10 (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

amplify?

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 October 2011 00:28 (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― Ward Fowler, Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:01 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this guy

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:26 (twelve years ago) link

Difference is Griffith actually feels like a genuinely nutty and endearing character, not the random assemblage of indie quirks that made up later iterations of the form. She's more of a screwball heroine than anything

― Number None, Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:49 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:53 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

btw SW has my favorite use of music -- as commentary, found objects, counterpoint -- in a movie ever.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago) link

yeah seriously.

let's watch the ending shall we?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z8NSqlaTMM

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link

that film is a beautiful representation of the 1980s. dated in the best possible way.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

I want The Feelies to play my reunion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_9Vlh1OtB8

Number None, Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link

i wonder -- is she actually hitting on him or is she playing with him since she probably knows he's not actually married to lulu?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

also: love the couple in the background.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

Demme has a great feel for music in general, imo. His choice of Goodbye Horses for the dancing scene in SoL was fucking genius. (Feel free to crap on my head now Morbs)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

hey slocki, since i got a lot of shit from you on the rgm thread for not digging the movie, i'm curious why you think you wouldn't like it now

― da croupier, Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:40 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

good question, i don't have a specific answer beyond 'it hasnt really stuck with me' tbh

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

no I like the way JD has used music, often

cept Storefront Hitchcock is Robyn on an off night

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 March 2012 03:05 (twelve years ago) link

lol

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:27 (twelve years ago) link

always felt that Into The Night was easily the best of the urban/yuppie nightamre sub-genre. actually were After Hours, Something Wild and Into The Night the ONLY films in this sub genre? hm. well anyway i was recently amazed to see that someone else thought Into The Night was amazing too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr-CGHH6Ys0

piscesx, Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:28 (twelve years ago) link

great genre

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:31 (twelve years ago) link

Suddenly realizing that a good number of movies I've long intended to see were Demme's. And also that several are streaming on Netflix! Stop Making Sense and Rachel Getting Married (FUCK THA HATERS) are fantastic.

Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:40 (twelve years ago) link

after hours is my favorite scorsese movie i think. it is good.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:59 (twelve years ago) link

does naked fit into this subgenre btw?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:59 (twelve years ago) link

mike leigh's?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:00 (twelve years ago) link

I keep avoiding Mike Leigh's Naked, for perhaps obvious reasons.

Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:04 (twelve years ago) link

yes

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:05 (twelve years ago) link

xpost

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:05 (twelve years ago) link

also frankenheimer's seconds is like a weird cousin to this subgenre no?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:06 (twelve years ago) link

I've always loved 'Naked'. Its been a while since I rewatched it, but for me it's THE Thewlis performance. He can only ever be THAT guy to me.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:06 (twelve years ago) link

I watched it again recently and it is... kind of great and kind of totally weird and maybe dated in some ways. Don't see it as part of this genre tho

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:27 (twelve years ago) link

the character doesn't make any sense but Modine is great in the role

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 13 March 2020 19:54 (four years ago) link

yeah, it’s a very odd and very likeable movie - pfeiffer in particular is wonderful in a role that could easily have been a cliche but she invests so much in her character’s intelligence and self-reliance

the blank check podcast is just wrapping up a run on all demme’s non-documentary, it’s def worth a listen and has sent me down a demme rewatch rabbithole over the last few weeks (and revealed something wild as a perhaps intentional companion piece / mirror image to this one)

shosple colupis (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 13 March 2020 20:03 (four years ago) link

that's what got me to watch it! i listened to the stop making sense and something wild episodes and i realized i had never watched MTTM

na (NA), Friday, 13 March 2020 20:04 (four years ago) link

hello fellow blankie

shosple colupis (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 13 March 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link

michelle pfeiffer is such an underrated actor tbh, it must suck to be incredibly talented but also supernaturally beautiful

i wish she and demme worked together again, it feels from this like they really got each other

shosple colupis (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 13 March 2020 20:11 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Watched Philadelphia for the first time since December '93. It's not a good movie but....it's a complicated movie. Hanks doesn't play a character, but he plays a Gay Man and he doesn't flinch at all. I don't understand Washington's "arc" unless I read him as a closeted gay man -- which Demme absolutely suggests, i.e. the way Demme stages the homophobia, the way the famous aria sequence plays extra diegetically follows him home into bed with his wife.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 May 2020 00:40 (three years ago) link

Something Wild is terrific. It starts out kinda quirky and turns into a thriller 2/3 of the way in.

Plus, The Feelies!

Cow_Art, Monday, 11 May 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link

I actually rewatched Melvin and Howard yesterday afternoon. Robert Ridgley as the game-show host is priceless.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BOGU5NTI0M2YtZDllNC00NzYwLTk0MWUtYzVkYjAxYmM5OGI1XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMjUyNDk2ODc@._V1_.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2020 02:11 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Something Wild is streaming on Amazon. Watched it for the first time since seeing it a bunch of times in my late teens. Lots of different thoughts, but (as Alfred does way above) I started comparing/contrasting it to Blue Velvet, which left me cold during those same late teens.

I love how busy this is with detail, all the background action and music (break-dancers at the gas station), how truly magnetic Griffith and Liotta both are, how Lulu seems a whole lot like Hannibal Lecter in the opening NY/NJ scenes of outwitting and controlling situations intuitively, how The Feelies songs evolve from "I'm A Believer" to their own ominous, songs in the course of the reunion, how much it brings back the joys of thrift-store shopping.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Saturday, 22 January 2022 19:27 (two years ago) link

how The Feelies songs evolve from "I'm A Believer" to their own ominous, songs in the course of the reunion

Excellent point. I missed this.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 January 2022 20:15 (two years ago) link

Is it just me, or is their version of "Fame" in this supposed to be cringingly bad?

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 22 January 2022 22:25 (two years ago) link

They cue to The Feelies own music right about the time Liotta enters the picture. Seems like the lighting gets a little dimmer then too.

I love those little bicentennial top hats they wear at the reunion.

In addition to Blue Velvet, another movie of the same era that I have always compared it to is Betty Blue, which had a similar "first half-madcap, second half-dark" vibe.

henry s, Saturday, 22 January 2022 23:04 (two years ago) link

seven months pass...

Hey, fancy new edition of Married to the Mob incoming

https://vinegarsyndrome.com/collections/frontpage-partner-labels/products/married-to-the-mob-fun-city-editions

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link


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