they actually did the character from the past being bemused by television joke
what is this, some encino man shit? unfrozen caveman lawyer? but with vampires?
― the kids of boris midney high (get bent), Friday, 16 March 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno, maybe it'll be good and just has a lousy trailer. wouldn't be the first time. but like i said, the "dude from the past cannot comprehend our modern doodads" humor is plaaaaaaayed and seemed really stale to me.
― the kids of boris midney high (get bent), Friday, 16 March 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
at least the good thing about it being set in the '70s is there won't be any iphone joeks.
― the kids of boris midney high (get bent), Friday, 16 March 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
i agree with all the criticisms here but i still think j dog looks kinda hilarious
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, 16 March 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
I saw and enjoyed Ultraviolet in the theaters, I have no real basis to object to anything resembling this movie
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Friday, 16 March 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link
which will be worse, this or The Lone Ranger?
― Number None, Friday, 16 March 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
You guys took his version of AIW way too seriously, if has destroyed the original story for you.
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 March 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
On the one hand, I agree with youOn the other hand, did you not actually watch the fudderwacken
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Friday, 16 March 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
on the one hand stfu
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
xpost
I don't think I take it *too seriously*
But honestly how do you take a children's story that has been successfully adapted many times including a version that featured Carol goddamn Channing, and then turn into a stultifying heroin goth navelgaze
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
with a bloody FUDDERWACKEN
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
... was that a continuation of the rhetorical question or an answer
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
lol I'm tired
you shut up too :)
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
it's an answer, clearly
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
Carol goddamn Channing was great in that adaptation btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-MLwPW86Rs
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
^^^OTM
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
def one of the better adaptations
this looks fun! stupid, silly, but potentially entertaining, and i do love johnny depp, so sign me up. i'm kind of a burton apologist, though. i find even his worst films sort of "diverting" or at least generically "watchable". i'm a sucker for elaborate production design, gothic atmosphere, eye candy in general, and at the very least, he knows how to keep things moving colorfully along.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
through a distended poop chute
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
I would be more inclined to watch this if it starred Depp and Carol Channing.
― Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
the comic timing on this looks really sharp. thats most of the battle there. "dude from the past cannot comprehend our modern doodads" humor still works for me tbh. i'm much cooler with stale 70s pop culture jokes than i am with the fucking fudderwaken. and pfeiffer, hbc and green all look like they're havin some fun. peace
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
man see u
― flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
Most times, I'd rather watch stupid fun than some serious brooding bs.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
Also, the 1972 date made me think of "Dracula AD 1972"
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
shit this movie looks pretty fun
― humba (NZA), Friday, 16 March 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
xxpost I was not besmirching Carol in that AIW adaptation, it's near and dear to my heart!
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 March 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgIBGjXIoEs
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 16 March 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
Between that and this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-UMlJhgQbY
Carol Channing scared the shit out of me when I was a kid.
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 16 March 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
I loved her, but she was def weird as a kid growing up in the 80's
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 March 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
from best to worst:
BeetlejuiceEd WoodEdward ScissorhandsPee-Wee's Big AdventureBig FishMars AttacksBatman ReturnsSleepy HollowBatmanCorpse BrideCharlie and the Chocolate FactoryAlice in WonderlandSweeney ToddPlanet of the Apes
obviously you can kind of imagine how I'd describe his overall career trajectory.i'm not much of a burton fan, but surprisingly it's really only the last five on that list that i pointedly never want to see again. i kind of liked big fish.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:33 (twelve years ago) link
I'd put Sweeney in top 10 but otherwise I pretty much agree
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:35 (twelve years ago) link
i'd switch alice and apes around, and put batman returns a few spots higher
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:41 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno alice had the worst shit of his career but also some nice stuff in it. apes was just bad bad bad bad.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:45 (twelve years ago) link
I'm too afraid to even see Apes.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 06:58 (twelve years ago) link
Just catching up with this and I feel no love for Tim Burton but I'll say that Mars Attacks and Ed Wood are pretty all-time. Edward Scissorhands has some great moments - mostly Winona Ryder in the ice-sculpture snow with that Danny Elfman score - but I've never loved it like others have. Sleepy Hollow is solid and fun iirc, but I haven't seen it since it came out and however many years can really change a man. Dark Shadows looks pretty stupid but it can go either way (fun! or FUCKING TEDIOUS SHIT).
Biggest takeaway from all of this is
I was about 9 when "Dark Shadows" was huge and never gave a shit about it. Boring. So again, what is the allure of reworking something that has no cultural currency with the "target demo"?
Morbs is now annoyed that Hollywood isn't making something for the "target demo"
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Saturday, 17 March 2012 07:00 (twelve years ago) link
btw if this is terrible I will be disappointed if there isn't a review headline along the lines of "Plumbing the Depps"
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Saturday, 17 March 2012 07:02 (twelve years ago) link
in a way apes is the worst kind of bad movie - excruciatingly boring. but alice outright offended me with its badness. apes at least had some great ape makeup.
sleepy hollow's kinda fun, chivo lubezki is really its secret weapon though
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 17 March 2012 07:04 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i don't anyone involved in the PotA remake really felt good about it. burton says it was the low point of his career. everybody just seems to wish it hadn't happened. maybe they'll say the same about alice in ten years, i dunno.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 07:20 (twelve years ago) link
alice made more than a billion dollars theatrically, so probably not
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 17 March 2012 07:34 (twelve years ago) link
I saw Apes when it came out, didn't read any reviews, just met up w friends beforehand and got slightly toasted. I had a blast.
"Batman Returns" is the best Burton imo. Recently I was showing someone clips of it on youtube and we ended up practically watching the entire thing that way.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
ed wood is just such a special movie to me, it is so perfect.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
beetlejuice and pee wee's are also all-time. those are my top 3 i guess.
much of pee wee is totally out of what became tim burton's artistic "character." i like the tonal and visual looseness, the fact that he doesn't think to control every element of the mise-en-scene.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
I also think Pee Wee works well because there was already a really specific framework for him to work within, Pee Wee's Playhouse already had its look, and Burton put a great shine to it. Not to say Burton didn't do anything, but like with Sweeney Todd (and I know there's dissension on that but w/e), the bones are established enough to not tempt him to fuck with them. Which is why Alice in Wonderland pisses me off so much. He would have done a much better job leaving well enough alone.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
ya it's a great collaboration, is what it feels like. xp
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
wait i believe pee wee's playhouse post-dated PWBA.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
but i don't think the movie (except for a few passages) looks anything like the TV show!
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOGWbzUM-y8
this was comedy GOLD when i was seven
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link