The super-basic questions thread for non-cooks

But washing up the pan is a task from Hell.

― Fizzles, Friday, March 16, 2012 10:24 AM (6 minutes ago)

Exactly!

How do I toss a salad so all the heavy stuff doesn't just wind up on the bottom and keep the presentation looking nice?

Dress the greens and then add the toppings afterward.

If the toppings need dressing, do it in a separate bowl first.

xxp: oh phew, this is I Love Cooking

I don't toss a salad -- I just put the stuff I am going to eat in the bowl I'm going to eat it from, dump vinegar and oil on it, then cut it with a knife and fork so it blends. I don't EVER eat creamy/thick dressing though.

I like to taste the vegetables I'm eating, so not a lot of dressing for me in general.

xxpost LOL

washing up the pan is a task from Hell.

give me a break. first of all, don't let it burn on the bottom. second of all, if you DO let it burn on the bottom, just squirt some detergent in it, put some water in and let it soak for 10 minutes or whatever, sheesh. i like doing it on the hob so i can stir in raisins, pour in a bit of milk, etc. i think the stirring makes it creamier.

What's wrong with the microwave?

tracer is this super-basic for non-cooks thread
go easy on em

Yeah, seriously. There's nothing in the universe wrong with not wanting to wash an extra dish.

After I've microwaved the oatmeal for three minutes and let it set for about one minute, I stir in the flavorings -- some butter, some milk, some sugar or honey, some cinnamon. The stirring definitely makes it creamier, but I don't see any need to do it over heat. And one bowl to wash is better than a bowl and a saucepan.

give me a break.

Clearly you are a person who washes up more or less immediately after using things. Dried porridge. Adhesive stuff.

1. take porridge out of pan
2. add some water to the pan from the tap - maybe even quirt in some detergent and hot water!
3. eat, do whatever
4. wash up pan

*squirt

It certainly isn't complicated I agree, and yet...

Gah you guys are being such pedants! It's a thread for ppl who don't cook, give them a break ffs!

the thought of washing up puts me off even stirring pesto into pasta in the pot, also any and all frying, also anything requiring "separate bowls"

frying is super messy, i agree

do you use dishwashing gloves? i find that they reduce the yuck factor at least a little.

it's not really the yuck factor so much as the...lazy factor. i don't mind scrubbing stuff. but even leaving it a couple of hours after the meal makes it so much more of a hassle - it's just Another Thing to remember doing and i have enough of those generally

then i cannot help you
you have to consider cooking to be a valuable activity if you are going to motivate yourself to do it

yeah that's why you have to do it pretty much right after. it's one of those grown-up things like actually opening mail.

oh lex

i am the dishwasher in our household, and while i don't mind it (gets me out of shit like cleaning floors), i'm always amazed how many dishes we generate in one day (or one meal).

like a couple pots and pans for heating things up, plates, salad bowls, and small bowls or ramekins for the all-important dipping sauces

it's one of those grown-up things like actually opening mail.

oh god i am terrible at this too!

if someone else has been good enough to cook for me i'm happy to do all the washing up but doing it all myself, punctuated by 10 minutes of eating...

i wish at some point in my life i'd had someone to cook with but right now it's just years of resentment built up at hearing "it's so easy" "it's an essential life skill" "why don't you cook" etc etc etc

fuck opening mail

Just try it, and make it a part of your routine. Make sandwiches! Make salads. Make anything.

Start with things that are based on assembly and require no extra dishes to wash, then work your way up from there.

i'm hard on you lex because i've been there. there have been checks i failed to cash in time purely because i left the envelope lying unopened for like three months

if i could think of any cookbook to give lex it might be the long out of print "a cookbook for poor poets (and others)", which has a whole section on "one pot meals" and whose initial injunction is to have always, at a minimum, some bread, some butter, and a bottle of wine

For example:

Get a rotisserie chicken and pick off all the chicken. Use it to make salads! Tacos/tostadas! Sandwiches. Whatever. You do not have to actually cook the chicken to make things with the chicken. You just have to actually have edible food in your kitchen and put it together and then eat it.

I also hate opening mail btw. Love cooking, though.

problem with always having some bread if one is not actually a poor poet is that it translates to one always having some stale bread, and one always throwing a lot of bread away.

Ducks, ledge, ducks.

Though if you try feeding the ducks in London it quickly becomes a scene from The Birds.

i freeze bread! sometimes on the day of purchase, sometimes if i've had it lying around for a few days and know i won't be able to finish it before it gets mouldy. then it's just raw toast

there have been checks i failed to cash in time purely because i left the envelope lying unopened for like three months

my entire life

I lost (paper) plane tickets about 13 years ago because they were buried under a pile of mail I was avoiding. When I found them, I wrote NEVER LOSE ANYTHING EVER AGAIN on the envelope and I still have it.

and the plane tickets

organising my life is a process. i'm just about getting there w/r/t finances. i know where my keys are about 60% of the time which is a huge improvement.

i actually really like...unmixed food? idk whether this is odd. i like eating ingredients separately and will often do so way before i realise they can be put together.

Fine then, focus on things that require assembly rather than 'cooking'

Or just eat a handful of chicken

then a handful of lettuce followed by a handful of bread. it will make a sandwich in your stomach.

You do not have to actually cook the chicken to make things with the chicken.

This is the truest fact I have seen in all week. It's now on my office wall.

Re. bread freezing. Slice bread, put 2-3 slices per bag into freezer bag, can be debagged and toasted from frozen. Takes only a few seconds longer to toast than fresh bread.

This assumes you need to slice your own bread, I don't buy sliced, but if you do - even easier!

rice cooker oatmeal 4 life

Rotisserie chicken, if you can get a well-seasoned and tasty one that doesn't turn to pools of fat in the bag, from a pretty good grocer, is like the most useful thing ever. It makes SO MANY OTHER THINGS and can last one person like A WEEK.

Then if you are slightly more than a non-cooking cook, you can freeze those suckers to make stock with later without ever cleaning or roasting the chix yourself.

Plus they're like $5 or $6 usually!

We get them at Costco (it's on my way home from work) - inexpensive, hot and tasty. Chop meat + skin, mix with broccoli, cream, shredded cheese of some sort, bake if feeling fancy, nuke for 6 minutes if not, eat.

I like the costco chickens but since I rarely drive during the week, I just roast my own - it's pretty simple.