Être et avoir
English title: Come At Me Bro
― Eric H., Thursday, 15 March 2012 21:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
Wow, that completely changes the tone of the film!
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 15 March 2012 21:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
'double life of veronique,' 'my neighbor totoro'
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 15 March 2012 22:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
lots of otm already. i can't really remember what 2002 included but i'd imagine that this poll will canonise a bunch of iranian stuff, maybe some slow Asian stuff like Hou.
― john-claude van donne (schlump), Friday, 16 March 2012 11:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
when i think about post 89 films id vote for i get a little embarrassed at how conventional my taste is, but id vote for:
The Thin Red LineA.I.Eyes Wide ShutZodiacIn the Mood for Lovemaybe Flowers in Shanghai?
trying to remember some more Euro or artier stuff but my mind's a-blank...
― ryan, Friday, 16 March 2012 19:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
alternates to my two above wd be Close Up and Munich
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think part of my problem is that some of the movies post-89 that are real touchstones for me (Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring, uh, springs to mind) aren't exactly what I'd call flawless masterpieces.
― ryan, Friday, 16 March 2012 19:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Question for Eric, Morbs, etc. If you had to pick one film post 1989 to vote for in S&S, which would it be? What about post 1999?
fantastic mr. fox, a scene at the sea, 35 shots of rum, the portuguese nun, through the olive trees...
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 26 March 2012 20:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
more: giliap, take care of your scarf tatiana (or maybe ariel), looking for mushrooms, black rain
probably lots of others
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
ok more: nouvelle vague, commingled containers, long day closes, spirited away, the thin red line...
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
er giliap is 1975, i meant songs from the second floor
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
chungking express, heat, the blade, god knows what else
so many to pick from
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
Of the films you guys have listed, how close do you think they'd come to actually making your real ballots? Not even close? Kinda close?
― polyphonic, Monday, 26 March 2012 21:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
a scene at the sea
this is such a rad movie!!
― Lamp, Monday, 26 March 2012 21:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
My post-'89 picks:
My Own Private IdahoCarlos
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
If I had an actual, real ballot, I'd list Zodiac for sure. I'd probably do something I never do, which is try to be mindful of the poll's lineage and pass over Spellbound as too subjective a pick. (I realize Zodiac's pushing it.)
― clemenza, Monday, 26 March 2012 21:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'd throw 'an angel at my table' in there, but i'm inclined to put it in pretty much any movie list i make.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 06:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah that one. i love that movie.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 06:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
Of recent vintage, would be tempted by Wong, but not sure which. In the Mood, Happy Together, Fallen Angels, he's the kind of guy (maybe like Tarkovsky too) where lack of a consensus "masterpiece" could keep him off a list like this.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 07:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.tnr.com/article/film/102885/the-godfather-anniversary-restoration-cinemark-coppola
I stress the unity of the two films because later this year the British film magazine Sight & Sound will have its once-a-decade poll of film critics to find the ten best films ever made. It’s a game, of course, yet the poll has become a cultural standard because Citizen Kane has won five times now since 1962 and must be considered favorite to win again.
Fair enough, if that’s what people think, but maybe it leaves cinema looking a little passé if our dominant film is 71 years old. Has nothing come along as great since then, not even with all the technical plushness? But the editor of Sight & Sound, Nick James, has advised the electorate that every vote must go to an individual film. You can pick The Godfather and Part II but not as the two halves of one work. I regret that because I think it misses a quality in the work, and diminishes the chances of the total Godfather being voted best film—I’ll guess it’s the most likely threat to Kane.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
Boo hoo.
The "total" Godfather now seems to willfully exclude Part III.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
fair enough tbh
― aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 12:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
they shd be 2 movies tho, to pretend they're 1 long movie is to ignore the way that the second undercuts and inverts the first
― aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 12:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
Thanks, MZS's FB feed, for distracting me with this ongoing geekery:
http://blogs.indiewire.com/pressplay/predictions-you-cant-refuse-previewing-the-sight-and-sound-greatest-films-poll-part-iii
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
my top candidates for #1 are all older than Kane.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
but younger than Abel.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
#teamvertigo
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
Well, #teamrulesofthegame really, but let's be realistic.
I wonder what made S&S reverse course on The Godfathers? Pushback from voters? From readers? From the estates of various directors who fell back of the combined entry last time?
― clemenza, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Because so many of them are still alive.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
The more people I find out have ballots in this thing, the more I have hope that there will be major upheavals.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Why so invested? All this all-time polling crap, about films utterly opposite in style, historical context, and aims, is even more of a parlor game than year-to-year lists.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
"Major upheavals" would be just so much redecorating.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
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niche lols
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
i for one am looking forward to finding out what the best film is later in the year
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's definitely not king of new york because the original bad lieutenant is better
Based on the coverage in S&S it seems that 'Beau Travail' and 'Mulholland Drive' are the most likely contemporary films to place.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
got a kick out of lookin at the voting breakdown from 02. zizek voted for dune and some nazi kitsch that ive never heard of.
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
james toback voted for get shorty
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think younger critics are less apt to hold specific titles in esteem that older ones, or if they do, in a less herdlike manner (ie the voters this time for TP: Fire Walk with Me will get nowhere). So I wouldn't guarantee a ton of upheaval.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol
otoh when i was a teenager i def used the s&s list as viewing guide so idk
― Lamp, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
i would still but now i just watch youtubes
Why so invested?
Like I need to tell a baseball fan.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
Plus, games are awesome, parlor or otherwise.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
for younger crix the alogorithm is usually
1 x silent film that isnt potemkin sunrise or w/e1 x bresson/dreyer1 x japanese1 x godard else maybe eustache or markers or suchlike2 x ford/hawks/sirk/&c2 x hitchcock/welles/kubrick1 x tsai/breillat/&c antiseptic post 95 arthouse 1 x avantgarde
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah but in baseball the best team actually wins most of the time!
xp
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 18:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
also the '55 Dodgers don't play the '98 Yankees
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 19:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
1 silent, preferably in which an elephant dies on camera1 fruity early sound musical1 first wave a-g1 newer a-g, preferably a horror movie in disguise1 golden age of horror1 French 60s (maybe Bresson)1 French 70s (maybe Bresson)1 movie with men kissing, but they're actually killing each other unless one is underageSatantango2 girls, 1 cup reax YouTubes
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 19:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
^outlier
Reseeing it on Super Bowl Sunday, I found I have no particular affection for Satantango at all.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 19:17 (1 year ago) Permalink