Asylum Records POLL: the early singer-songwriter folk-rock days

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wow really?

Mordy, Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, though i'm not proud of the fact. earthy & mellow 70s shit has never really caught my imagination. love pop, heavy metal, funk, disco, punk and psychedelic whatever from these years, including a good deal of folk & blues, but not the stuff asylum was peddling, apparently. not sure why...

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Thursday, 15 March 2012 02:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

No Other

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 15 March 2012 02:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Judee Sill, you old coots!

Frankenberry (TyroneCrumble), Thursday, 15 March 2012 03:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've been thinking about this thread and as much as I love No Other, Judee Sill, David Blue, I think I play JD Souther's first record the most of these. It's by no means the best of this bunch, maybe because I heard the Eagles so much growing up and it reminds me of a better version of what the eagles were. I still don't know what to vote for.

JacobSanders, Thursday, 15 March 2012 03:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

buzza, Thursday, 15 March 2012 03:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Never heard of it--looks excellent.

clemenza, Thursday, 15 March 2012 03:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Caught between No Other and the Judee Sill albums.But I'll go for the Spotify playlist later and see if something changes my mind....

I'm not going leftfield on you... (hypehat), Thursday, 15 March 2012 10:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Of the half of these I've heard:

- The two Judee Sill albums are slowly growing on me. Heart Food in my top 5 here.
- I prefer late-70s Jackson Browne to the three albums here, although they're still quite likeable
- Stories - I know only their singles; I've got to imagine if this whole album was that good it, word would be out by now
- Eagles - try to imagine they were an obscure band that you'd never heard on the radio, and hearing their albums for the first time. You might actually like them.
- For The Roses would probably be better reputed if the albums that proceeded and succeeded it weren't so spectacular. But this one is great too. Court and Spark will probably get my vote.
- I love the Byrds, but their 1973 original-lineup reunion album sounds very much like what it is, the songwriting scraps left over from whatever projects the band members had since moved on to. Gene Clark's contributions are the highlight, but that's faint praise. No Other is Clark's most ambitious effort, and arguably his best solo album.
- Ned Doheny fused strong, evocative lyrics to forgettable melodies. Still quite good.
- Steve Ferguson - is this the guitarist from early NRBQ? Didn't know he made any records on his own.
- I know Linda Ronstadt only from the two comps I have, which are excellent. Need to investigate the full albums.
- the Souther-Hillman-Furay band drew comparisons to Crosby, Stills, and Nash for obvious reasons, and no doubt their label hoped they might be as popular. Richie Furay's work with Buffalo Springfield and early Poco is criminally underappreciated, but both SHF albums disappointed me.
- Traffic made four great albums. When The Eagle Flies isn't one of them.
- Jimmy Webb as a songwriter is unassailable, but his own records somehow aren't as impressive as I would have expected.
- Tom Waits' early albums are maybe his most accessible, if not as distinctive as his later work
- Planet Waves lukewarm by Dylan's standards, except for "Forever Young". Or at least that's what I remember, haven't listened to this one for a long time.
- I keep meaning to check out Jo Jo Gunne, a band formed by some ex-Spirit guys.

There's alot of interplay here - just about everyone on this list plays on or covers/writes songs for another.

everything else is secondary (Lee626), Thursday, 15 March 2012 11:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

i listened to the john david souther album last night -- pretty terrible! the lyrics make the eagles look sophisticated

Mordy, Thursday, 15 March 2012 12:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Did you listen to Jesus in 3/4 Time or Out To Sea? He also wrote a lot of Eagles songs.

JacobSanders, Thursday, 15 March 2012 12:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Court and Spark over No Other. I'd like to hear those Jackson Browne albums again.

Brad C., Thursday, 15 March 2012 12:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

does anyone know who the female singer is on "Take Me Faraway?" i have my suspicions but some quick googling isn't turning up the answer.

xp i heard "jesus in 3/4 time," didn't make it to "out to sea." some were less mediocre than others but there were some pretty huge clunkers

Mordy, Thursday, 15 March 2012 12:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

i should say, Ned Doheny's "Take Me Faraway," but now i'm thinking maybe it's actually Ned, lol. my bad.

Mordy, Thursday, 15 March 2012 12:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

he has such a little baby face

Mordy, Thursday, 15 March 2012 12:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

man i love planet waves.

mizzell, Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok I've been thinking about this poll and this is what I think:

side one
"Court and Spark" – 2:46
"Help Me" – 3:22
"Free Man in Paris" – 3:02
"People's Parties" – 2:15
"Same Situation" – 2:57
Side two
"Car on a Hill" – 3:02
"Down To You" – 5:38
"Just Like This Train" – 4:24
"Raised on Robbery" – 3:06
"Trouble Child" – 4:00
"Twisted" – 2:21 (Annie Ross/Wardell Gray)

I'm a late-comer to For the Roses, which I think is also tremendous, and I love those Jackson Browne albums more than I can say, but I don't think anything on this list can go round for round with the above.

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Cry for Eddie in the corner, thinking he's nobody" game/set/match kinda.

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

and me in my frightening silence thinking i don't understand

Mordy, Thursday, 15 March 2012 13:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's Court Of Spark or Late For The Sky

Jamie_ATP, Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

love pop, heavy metal, funk, disco, punk and psychedelic whatever from these years, including a good deal of folk & blues, but not the stuff asylum was peddling, apparently

yeah haha, that was me too - for a lotta years the only things on asylum I even OWNED were Dylan and the Dictators! But eventually I was turned onto Joni and Tom Waits

Still heard only about 1/3 of these or less so won't dare voting - consider that one missed vote for Roses.

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I haven't heard enough of these to vote either - but the Judee Sill s/t is one of my favorite albums, so I doubt anything would dislodge it.

o. nate, Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

does anyone know who the female singer is on "Take Me Faraway?" i have my suspicions but some quick googling isn't turning up the answer.

― Mordy, Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:57 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i should say, Ned Doheny's "Take Me Faraway," but now i'm thinking maybe it's actually Ned, lol. my bad.

May be Graham Nash actually; he's credited with backing vocals on his first album, and he has a high voice.

everything else is secondary (Lee626), Thursday, 15 March 2012 20:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Court and Spark, my ideal for a how a singer-songwriter leading a band should sound.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 March 2012 21:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 00:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Court And Spark", because I find it hard to believe that any of the other albums could be even better...

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 02:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is relevant, from 1:30 on

and the whole From The Byrds To The Eagles documentary is great, by the way.

B-Boy Bualadh Bos (ecuador_with_a_c), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 02:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

not on the album in this poll, but this Rowans song is a jam.

mizzell, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

cillfile with a c

buzza, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 04:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

In one of the few instances in which Geffen's instincts were proved wrong, Geffen believed that the Eagles' popularity had peaked with their first album. Desperado had been a commercial bust, and now it seemed to him to be a question whether they would even finish a third. After the group had gone to London with Glyn Johns, infighting had forced them to return after only six of a planned twelve-week recording stand. They had recorded only two songs.

It was just before Christmas 1973 when the band's feelings toward Geffen grew even more adversarial. Their business manager informed them that they had not made any money on their recently completed Desperado tour, as the profits had gone back to the management company, which he said was owed the money from back commissions. Frey, Henley, and the others were irate as they realized they did not have money to buy Christmas presents.

One day, after calling the management office to ask for a limousine to take the group to the airport for a concert date, Glenn Frey decided he could take no more. Irving Azoff, who had booked the concert, put his hand over the receiver and asked Elliot Roberts what he should tell Frey.

"Tell Glenn he doesn't get a limo," Roberts snapped. "Tell him to get a hippie in a cab and go to the fuckin' airport!"

http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/k/king-operator.html

buzza, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

albert brooks outpolling dylan!

buzza, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

I voted for Judee Sill's but can't argue with either of the records that beat it. With every year I love early 70s songwriters more - must be a sign of aging.

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Voted for closing time, for sentimental late night cross country driving reasons.

JacobSanders, Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

now do a poll with all the entries that didn't get any votes

the kids of boris midney high (get bent), Thursday, 22 March 2012 22:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Dick Feller"

buzza, Thursday, 22 March 2012 22:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

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