Return to Oz is a total cult classic
― Number None, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:11 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, Return To Oz is v.v.cool.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:19 (twelve years ago) link
one of the reasons it's fondly remembered is all the awesome puppetry etc. Not sure the cgi of John Carter will be looked back on in the same way
― Number None, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:22 (twelve years ago) link
Main reason I fondly remember RtO is it's fucking shit scary.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:37 (twelve years ago) link
and we all know cgi ain't scary
― Number None, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 13:41 (twelve years ago) link
The arena scene was almost *too* close visually to the one in the 2nd Star Wars prequel but it was also 1000x more fun/exciting. And with had less monsters!
I also really loved the Tharks. Agree with Ned that the CGI was pretty well done.
― Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
is the plot of this movie totally incomprehensible? a.o. scott compared it to "dune," which to my mind reads = visually beautiful and incomprehensible.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
it is totally fucking by numbers good guys and bad guys and some other good guys. as i said upthread "incomprehensible" is being used as code for "i got bored and stopped paying attention".
― ledge, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
(Xpost) * and with less monsters *
― Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
some of the dialogue is incomprehensible because its just people babbling about imaginary names that you literally dont know the meaning of.
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
i followed the plot. and i'm not that swift.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link
i mean its basically a kid's movie. in the best possible way.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
Xxpost As in most sci-fi. I mean - "Grand Moff Tarkin"? "Tusken Raiders"... It's all part of the tradition. Crits just wanted to pile on this one, I think.
― Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
most film critics suck so bad. best to avoid them entirely.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link
Btw I and off topic: that "Battleship" trailer? Ouch.
― Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link
At the risk of repeating myself, I wrote about why people are piling on to criticse - http://sickmouthy.com/2012/03/13/why-do-people-hate-john-carter-of-mars/
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
at risk of typing this sentence
― (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
for real tho I liked your post on the movie. looking forward to seeing it this weekend if it's still in theatres
all the trailers i saw before this looked so chaotic and ugly. except for new ridley scott. i definitely wanna see that. die hard on a space station looked okay i guess. though the trailer kinda sucked. i mean i would watch it on netflix. will pretty much watch any die hard on a something movie.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
what die hard on a space station movie would that be? also, you got the prometheus trailer? jealous.
― ledge, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
oh that prometheus trailer looks v exciting even though I have no idea what's happening except something that looks like a space rollercoaster
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
prometheus is a moon of saturn, no?
― the late great, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_%28moon%29
wind storm in trailer -> actually the moon hitting the rings of saturn?
lol bad science
― mh, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, but I don't think that's where they are.
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
I'd imagine the title is more to do with stealing fire from the gods
― Number None, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
Prometheus is going to be some sort of prequel to Alien -- same universe but different/earlier setting, apparently. Yeah we got that one as well, looked great in 3D. Also enjoyed the ParaNorman and Brave trailers; Battleship can of course fuck off.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
i didn't even know john carter was also 3D. not an option where i am. was glad it wasn't. not a big fan of nu-3D or 3D in general. i'm always fiddling with the glasses.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
I think that's gotta be LV-426 in the Prometheus trailer. I mean that's totally the derelict ship. xpost
It was retro-fitted, so I skipped the 3D.
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
this film was kinda long but it was the exact opposite of my tin tin experience. couldn't wait for that to end. could have watched john carter movie for another half hour.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
is there a reference to prometheus in alien?
― the late great, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
No, but in the viral fake-TED video, Weyland tells the story of Prometheus stealing fire from the gods and talks about his desire to lead the human race into a new era etc etc...
I loved Tin Tin xpost
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i did not love tin tin. but i was also kinda tired and cranky and it felt endless. end of a long day and all that...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
Prometheus also created man from clay in some myths. The safe bet is we're going to get a look at the creators of the Aliens. Space Jockeys and all that
― Number None, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
viral fake Ted talk?
weyland of weyland-yutani?
this needs it's own thread of nerdery
― the late great, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
it's an its not an it's
― the late great, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
iPhone auto correcting "its" as a rule is a sign of a civilization in decay, i think
― the late great, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
That thread already exists: They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah I loved "Tin Tin" as well except for the interminable, unnecessary and totally un-Herge'ish battle on the docks.
― Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
The battle was out of place; pretty much everything else was a treat. Fun score from John Williams too.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link
Why was John Carter retrofitted? It seems like they would have shot that one in 3-D from the get-go.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
well up above it said that the director didn't want to do 3D so i guess he didn't film it in 3D.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link
Fun score from John Williams too.
It was neat, though heavily reminiscent of his even better music for Catch Me If You Can.
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link
(which movie I've never seen; I probz only see maybe 10% of the films whose scores I listen to)
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
that's true. it was in production for a very long time, though.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
xpost
wow jon williams has really upped the ante since he left ILX
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
'left'
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
I understand VegemiteGrrl has now seen and believed.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
I have waited about 30 years for this and it delivered everything I wanted it to. It seemed like kind of a pointless merging of books to bring the Therns into this one and I didn't get where they were going with the White Apes at all (my belief was always that ERB was trying to write the same idea as the gorilla in Murders In The Rue Morgue) but that's nitpicking. Great stuff.
― Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
YOU GUYS!!!
THIS WAS SO GREAT!
so fun, had a very old-timey feel, even with the cgi. I haven't read the book but it seemed like it was faithful, just from the look & tone.
And holy shirtless Tim Riggins batman. horseshoe, no joke: you NEED to see this.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
yay aldo liked it too! that's a damn good sign imo
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago) link