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I really want to see that :/

wolf kabob (ENBB), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

where the hell is tape store lately

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

i liked it. i mean, very alienating, and unapologetically bleak (esp the ending where there's a moment of self-awareness before total narcissism is reconstituted), but i laughed a lot and it made me feel so good about my life. not generally a feeling i get from art, but one i enjoyed here! (and that feeling makes me suspicious that this film is actually pretty reactionary, and maybe even misogynistic?)

Mordy, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

huh now I want to see it even more

wolf kabob (ENBB), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just because I didn't expect the sort of thing you describe at all, I mean.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's pretty good. best movie by reitman or cody so far (i have a great distaste for reitman as a person but as a director he's getting better with every movie). i found some of the character beats unconvincing, but i admired its miserable tone, its willingness to be unfunny, and its resistance to a big this-person-is-changing-before-your-eyes character arc. theron gives the best and bravest performance of her career

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

diablo cody talked abt some tweaks it went through from script > screen on marc maron's wtf podcast & it was p illuminating

i didnt take it as reactionary or misogynistic but i can see how you could get there i guess

yah charlize is amazing as hell in it

johnny crunch, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

I really like CT and I have heard only good things about her in this. That's the main reason I want to see it. Definitely wasn't because of Cody's involvement, that's for sure.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

cody really scaled it back, tbh. allowed a few scenes to speak for themselves without being punctuated by rapid-fire witty dialogue. and while there's still some of that cutesy talking in the movie, the quirkiness is mostly confined to things like a Teenage Fanclub song being an implicit plot point, or ppl wearing Pixies shirts + other cultural references (vinyl toys! home bourbon brewing!).

i also wonder what to think about the fact that Cheron's character (Mavin iirc) is always watching trashy reality shows ie Kardashians, Real Housewives, etc. i guess the implication is that she's as vapid as these shows but in my experience no one watches these shows without some level of ironic distance. you watch them to laugh at the characters, or to talk about how ridiculous it is.

Mordy, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

also, the film feels very judgmental about Mavis, but don't her actions strongly imply mental illness? for sure we are given strong indications of obsessive compulsion, alcoholism, psychopathy, possibly even psychosis? like she seems like a seriously unwell lady. we are given the scene where she tells her SOILERKINDA? parents that she thinks she might be an alcoholic, and the way they interact with her suggests that they've been ignoring what might have been a long history of mental illness. ENDSPOILER but then we're totally supposed to be repulsed by her, bc frankly she's repulsive, w/ very little space for empathy.

Mordy, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

like it's a pretty cruel film on a few levels (not even to go into the film's misanthropy towards the Patton Oswalt character which is pretty horrific and adds insult to injury literally)

Mordy, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like this more now when I think about it than I did when I first saw it. But I think I expected it to be funnier, and it was actually just kind of sad, yes.

akm, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

everyone upthread otm about Young Adult, I was really surprised a) how dark it was and b) how much I liked it. I thought it was pretty funny, but CT's character is basically a delusional alcoholic sociopath and doesn't really go through much in the way of redemption. kind of made me think of a more realistic version of a jody hill movie (eg foot-fist way) but with a female lead. patton oswalt got a lot of the hype but he was basically playing a sad version of patton oswalt, while CT was straight-up fantastic. favorite part was the dialogue between CT and patton oswalt's sister in the kitchen right at the end.

congratulations (n/a), Sunday, 18 March 2012 12:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

by far my favorite Reitman film. There's some talk in the 2011 film detrius thread.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 March 2012 12:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just saw this. I didn't think it was spectacular, but it was surprisingly good. I disagree with the assertion that it was a cruel movie, though. I thought it handled Theron's character faily sympathetically. It was fairly sympathetic towards everyone, really, even if people weren't always shown in their best light. Agree that the tone was similar to something like a less OTT, more dramatic Eastbound and Down. I'm still thinking about it and remembering aspects that really worked well, which is a hell of a lot more than I can say for most recent movies.

Arnold Drummond, Process Server (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 24 March 2012 16:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

I kind of want to watch this again the more I realize that it has some thematic overlap with Carl Wilson's Let's Talk About Love 33 1/3 book (which is fantastic, btw, for those who weren't already aware). I'm generally fascinated with overblown repulsion towards cultural objects which are somehow perceived as threats to one's identity and the ways in which that repulsion tends to distort one's perception of The Other.

One of my faverit moive ever!!!! XD (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm surprised by how much people seemed to like this on here. Just watched it and while I do think CT was great and I liked the fact that it was dark throughout, I didn't think it was that great overall. Aside from Mavis, a lot of the characters didn't work for me and it was just missing something. I feel like it was very close to being excellent but somehow just missed the mark although I'm not sure exactly where or how just yet.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Sunday, 1 April 2012 02:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

That was a fucking righteous speech.

Simon H., Saturday, 15 February 2014 06:39 (9 months ago) Permalink

If you never saw the SNL sketch from 2008, now's a really good time to watch it.

http://www.thewrap.com/ellen-page-gay-lesbian-snl-sketch-2008

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 15 February 2014 07:02 (9 months ago) Permalink

Now she can focus on making her first good film.

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 February 2014 15:23 (9 months ago) Permalink

you went there? making that speech was more important and impressive than that, regardless of how good this imaginary film would be.

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Saturday, 15 February 2014 18:30 (9 months ago) Permalink

One of my lesbian friends posted on Facebook that she and her boo are "celebrating Valentine's Day Ellen Page style" and someone commented "You're pregnant?"

That's So (Eazy), Saturday, 15 February 2014 18:45 (9 months ago) Permalink

That was a fucking righteous speech.

yes

Nhex, Saturday, 15 February 2014 20:16 (9 months ago) Permalink

lol I had the same thought as Morbs.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 February 2014 20:18 (9 months ago) Permalink

how sorry a track record does a celebrity have to have before their coming out is page 36 material?

The SNL sketch wasn't bad though... except no ending, cuz it's SNL.

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 February 2014 20:26 (9 months ago) Permalink

(I mean, it's been a great career move for a trivia answer like George Takei)

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 February 2014 20:27 (9 months ago) Permalink

Her arm movements in this video are cracking me up

polyphonic, Saturday, 15 February 2014 21:31 (9 months ago) Permalink

Aw, that was so nice!

polyphonic, Saturday, 15 February 2014 21:35 (9 months ago) Permalink

except no ending, cuz it's SNL.

Actually, that one has a pretty sweet ending.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 15 February 2014 23:12 (9 months ago) Permalink

but.. that would mean Dr. Morbius was disparaging something he hadn't seen!

Nhex, Saturday, 15 February 2014 23:21 (9 months ago) Permalink

(I mean, it's been a great career move for a trivia answer like George Takei)

― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:27 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Dude had a plenty decent career in acting, voice acting and public service before coming out all of nine years ago. Do you ever just shut the fuck up?

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Saturday, 15 February 2014 23:54 (9 months ago) Permalink

idk, I'm kinda with morbs on this one

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 February 2014 01:00 (9 months ago) Permalink

oh, thought she came out like 7 years ago

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Sunday, 16 February 2014 03:23 (9 months ago) Permalink

idk, I'm kinda with morbs on this one

that's a shame. there nothing positive to be said about siding with morbs on this one. nothing.

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Sunday, 16 February 2014 04:15 (9 months ago) Permalink

she can still be gay and not have been in a decent movie ffs

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 February 2014 04:19 (9 months ago) Permalink

that was not the implication.

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Sunday, 16 February 2014 04:24 (9 months ago) Permalink

I'm surprised Veg didn't like Whip It!.

...out of that weakness, out of that envy, out of that fear.. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 16 February 2014 04:30 (9 months ago) Permalink

it wasn't anywhere near as good as it thought it was

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 February 2014 04:33 (9 months ago) Permalink

i dare say she's talented, she's probably in movies i would never see or care about and will continue to be in them. but the tenderness/intensity/nervousness of her speech here is more important than anything (possibly) she'll do professionally. i felt a lot of love for her and was moved by it.

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Sunday, 16 February 2014 04:43 (9 months ago) Permalink

as a straight non-entity who's seen one movie in the theatre since inception, morbs' comment seemed pretty catty

probably a fitting welcome to the sisterhood tho i guess

mookieproof, Sunday, 16 February 2014 04:54 (9 months ago) Permalink

just watched the ellen page speech after having been aware of it 24 hrs. great job to her. think she is a great person for humanity. god bless.

jaymc, Sunday, 16 February 2014 06:48 (9 months ago) Permalink

you know use me as an example but whatever

jaymc, Sunday, 16 February 2014 06:48 (9 months ago) Permalink

like the kind of liberal guy who thinks the pope is great

jaymc, Sunday, 16 February 2014 06:49 (9 months ago) Permalink

and can say "you know he's a jesuit"

jaymc, Sunday, 16 February 2014 06:49 (9 months ago) Permalink

but

jaymc, Sunday, 16 February 2014 06:49 (9 months ago) Permalink

look here's the thing

jaymc, Sunday, 16 February 2014 06:49 (9 months ago) Permalink

and i'm alec baldwin for wnyc

jaymc, Sunday, 16 February 2014 06:50 (9 months ago) Permalink

but i didn't know if i was gay or straight

jaymc, Sunday, 16 February 2014 06:50 (9 months ago) Permalink


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