Let's talk about Bill Withers.

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What is Still Bill? He's become a theme in this thing I'm writing just now, yet I know very little about him except that he held the longest note on any hit single ('a lovely daaa-aaaaay') until Morten Harket beat his record.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

Still Bill is an amazing documentary about where his head is at now.

jed_, Thursday, 8 March 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

Got it set to record, thanks for the tip. There's a half-hour Bill Withers In Concert on afterwards too.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

get yr 'îron game up, folk-soul

The Reverend, Thursday, 8 March 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

That documentary is so good.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

I still have not seen it yet. Must remedy that

curmudgeon, Friday, 9 March 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

I would have liked more focus on the music (and its kinda odd that someone coming to this film completely alien to Withers would probably come away thinking that "Grandma's Hands' was the biggest thing he ever did), but yeah, definitely worth a watch.

I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Friday, 9 March 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

that was great. such a good guy ..
and voice is still on the button.
man, he needs to get some of those home demos released.

mark e, Friday, 9 March 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I watched this last night also... by the time it ended, I found myself absolutely full of admiration for the guy. And I've always loved his music.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

Haven't watched the doc yet, but I did start my day with the 'live in concert' show that was on immediately afterwards. It was really nice.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

^ absolutely.

owenf, Saturday, 10 March 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

thirded

jed_, Saturday, 10 March 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

fourthed

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

What they all said.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 March 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

sixthded.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 10 March 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

I can't imagine anyone hearing that record and not loving it.

jed_, Saturday, 10 March 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

I'm surprised this isn't seen as being as canonical as, say, Live At Leeds or It's Too Late To Stop Now. This is beyond captivating from start to finish.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 10 March 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

even his chat between the songs is enough to make you fall in love with him.

jed_, Saturday, 10 March 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link

just watched this documentary on the iPlayer and whoa, that part where he's talking to the children was proper inspiring. Brilliant.

boxedjoy, Saturday, 10 March 2012 22:25 (twelve years ago) link

Love Bill but find most live records disposable. How bad do I need to check this out?

I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Saturday, 10 March 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

I find live records utterly disposable too. This is pretty much the only one that I fuck with.

owenf, Saturday, 10 March 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link

Well, since looking back over this thread, like one out of every three posts is a rave about Carnegie Hall I'm tossing it on Spotify now, crossing fingers...

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 10 March 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

just watched this documentary on the iPlayer and whoa, that part where he's talking to the children was proper inspiring. Brilliant.

― boxedjoy, Saturday, 10 March 2012 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. Loved that bit.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 March 2012 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

i don't know if it's inspiring so much as that it shows the two sides of him so nakedly. like, he seems a bit uncomfortable with the performance they give for him and that he's worried that he's not responding appropriately but it flips over into empathy.

they show this interesting clip too where he's singing "just the two of us" and he looks totally dead inside.

jed_, Saturday, 10 March 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know, the part where he talks about having to be more forgiving than other people and how it makes for better character seemed like a really positive way to get children who might be victimised to see a way to turn their problems into a sign of strength, that whole part really got to me.

boxedjoy, Saturday, 10 March 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago) link

yes, so true.

jed_, Saturday, 10 March 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know, the part where he talks about having to be more forgiving than other people and how it makes for better character seemed like a really positive way to get children who might be victimised to see a way to turn their problems into a sign of strength, that whole part really got to me.

― boxedjoy, Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:14 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, shit was profound. love this guy x1,000,000.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 11 March 2012 02:58 (twelve years ago) link

withers is one of those rare dudes who can answer questions off the cuff in fully-turned, beautiful sentences that i would kill to be able to write. i know some people in my personal life who are like that, but the other famous guy who speaks like that is leonard cohen.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 11 March 2012 03:07 (twelve years ago) link

Okay since Doctor Casino didn't post again I assume he found the Carnegie Hall album as captivating as the rest of us and is listening to it constantly to the point he can't do anything else.

The documentary is on Netflix Instant BTE.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 March 2012 13:37 (twelve years ago) link

The preamble to 'Grandma's Hands' reduces me to a blubbering fool EVERY time I hear it...'"I love that old lady...love that old lady"...and don't get me started on the documentary...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Monday, 12 March 2012 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

the closing jam on harlem/shake 'em on down is so immense. could go on another hour and still be absolutely riveting.

brokering (pimping) (stevie), Monday, 12 March 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

I've always felt Withers was unfairly overlooked in comparison to the Marvin/Stevie/Al/Sly cannon. Ridiculous statements that most of his albums are disposable reinforce that notion. I wrote about that a few years back. I saved it at the end of a more recent piece on 70s soul - http://www.fastnbulbous.com/70s_soul.htm

At least his albums keep getting reissued.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 12 March 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

Bill's albums disposable?! Have they heard Just As I Am??

I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Monday, 12 March 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

Still Bill is fucking amazing!

gospodin simmel, Monday, 12 March 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

Okay since Doctor Casino didn't post again I assume he found the Carnegie Hall album as captivating as the rest of us and is listening to it constantly to the point he can't do anything else.

The documentary is on Netflix Instant BTE.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, March 12, 2012 9:37 AM Bookmark

haha, i got distracted, finally finished listening to it just now. It's great. I need to find a vinyl copy - my tinny computer speakers aren't really doing justice to the warmth and fullness of the sound. Not to mention that the Spotify ads kind of break the mood. But this is a great album.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 02:58 (twelve years ago) link

Still Bill is perfect end to end. "I Don't Want You On My Mind" and "Take It All In..." are some kind mutant folk that haven't been duplicated.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 03:01 (twelve years ago) link

documentary is totally incredible

i love this dude so much

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 03:16 (twelve years ago) link

oh yeah live at carnegie hall is my favorite bill withers record, and while i fuck with live records they're rarely my favorites, especially when the dude's adjacent studio work is just massive. alfred otm re: "mutant folk" as a descriptor

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 03:18 (twelve years ago) link

Just scored the live album on cd for $5 at Barnes & Noble. Listening now, lives up to the rep.

"...he only said eight words last year, and I think six of 'em were 'airport'".

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 01:15 (twelve years ago) link

Cornel West is pretty irritating in this doc

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

yes but he is maybe in it for all of a minute total

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, the live album is great. I'm sorry that I avoided it all these years.

I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Thursday, 22 March 2012 01:53 (twelve years ago) link

Grabbed a cheapie Greatest Hits today, and mannn, is it weird to hear these later numbers like "Steppin' Right Along" and "Whatever Happens." They're really kind of listless musically and the canned drums are a huge letdown after the 70s gold. I'm sure quiet storm devotees probably take to this material a little more than I do - the thing is there's still the amazing quality of his voice that almost carries it through. But it's definitely a dropoff.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

i think withers himself would admit as much

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

there's that latter-day TV clip in the documentary still bill where he's lip-synching to one of his later minor hits and he just looks dead inside.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

it's not a late minor-hit it's him singing "just the two of us" and it's from the time it was released. it's used to underscore his deep cynicism re. the record industry at that time.

jed_, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

listened to Just As I Am this morning. how many records end with the singer killing himself?

Dominique, Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

Was talking to a drummer the other day and he was telling me James Gadson was his main man

zing left unguarded, the j/k palace in flames (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 April 2012 03:33 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Still find it kind've mind-blowing that New Zealand's #1 single of 1988, 6 weeks at the top, etc, was a cover of an album cut from his '85 album Watching You Watching Me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8U8FK6wEfc

etc, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 10:54 (eleven years ago) link


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