Indefinite Detention? But I Have Soccer Practice at 4: U.S. Politics 2012

John Marshall's decision at Aaron Burr's trial also relevant.

Now it means that, if there is a video taken by a drone of a small, indistinct figure identified as you by a "expert" piece of personal identification software, and that figure is seen in a place reputed to be an al-Q training facility, and two people watch the tape, you're toast.

xpost -- Read that as "Josh Marshall's decision" and was all 'what kind of time travel pundit trip are you on'

Founding Fathers Yglesias, Weigel and Erickson.

for whom Federalist satrap Glenn Greenwald feels contempt

You mean sending a fax about the "kill list" to Congress is not good enough:

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2012/03/eric-holder-targeted-killing

Holder argues that "robust oversight" is
provided by Congress, but that "oversight" actually amounts to members of the relevant congressional committees being briefed. Press reports suggest this can simply amount to a curt fax to intelligence committees notifying them after the fact that an American has been added to a "kill list." It also seems like it would be difficult for Congress to provide "robust oversight" of the targeted killing program when intelligence committee members like Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) are still demanding to see the actual legal memo justifying the policy.

And he didn't call them freedom fries?

don't worry Rush, noted lothario and generally all-around idiot Bill Maher has got yr back!

Obama campaigned on what he called “the most sweeping ethics reform in history” and has frequently criticized the role of money in politics. That hasn’t stopped him from offering government jobs to some of his biggest bundlers, volunteer fundraisers who gather political contributions from other rich donors.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-influence-industry-obama-gives-administration-jobs-to-some-big-fundraisers/2012/03/06/gIQA9y3txR_story.html?hpid=z2

I just love that Palin has written the playbook for modern GOP candidates. Cannot wait for the Congressional election this fall.

Joe the Plumber blows a gasket on CNN

Samuel Wurzelbacher, who on Thursday morning accused CNN of being like TMZ and trying to trap him with “gotcha questions,” explained to POLITICO immediately following the tense interview that he is “sick of the gossip and drama.”

Reached on his cellphone after his early morning TV hit, Wurzelbacher, better known to many Americans as “Joe the Plumber,” explained why he had gotten flustered.

. . . During his conversation with CNN’s Zoraida Sambolin, Wurzelbacher – who won an Ohio Republican congressional primary this week — began to show his first signs of frustration when asked why he believes he’s qualified to run for Congress.

“What qualifies me?” Wurzelbacher said, laughing. “One, I’m an American citizen. Two, I’m very much involved in the process of what’s going on. I guess my question would be, what qualifies the current politicians who are killing our country, Republicans and Democrats alike?”

He added, “I’m sorry, it just seems like a silly question.”

Things only got worse when Sambolin cited some of Wurzelbacher’s previous statements about homosexuality, including his claim that the word “queer” is not a slur, as well as his declaration that he would not allow homosexuals “anywhere near my children.”

“Have you changed your positions on this at all?” Sambolin asked.

“So this is TMZ, this isn’t CNN, is what you’re saying,” Wurzelbacher shot back.

“Of course it’s CNN. These are things that you said, that I would like to know if you still stand by them or if you have changed your positions on them.”

“Listen, in my dictionary, and everyone’s dictionary in 1970s, the word queer did mean strange and unusual. There was no slur to it. Do you challenge that?” the congressional candidate said, before adding, “Come on, you’re trying to do a ‘gotcha’ moment, it’s quite obvious.”

Before the interview came to an end, Wurzelbacher charged, “I’m allowed to have my opinions as an American, but it seems the left becomes very intolerant when you have an opinion other than what they state.”

Asked by POLITICO if he will go on CNN again, Wurzelbacher said he is undecided.

“You’re going to be asked questions but I’m not afraid of them. I will fight back, I will talk back. I’m not sitting there to be persecuted,” he said. “If they’re going to take me on, they better be ready to take me on.”

Wurzelbacher will face off against Democratic Rep. Marcy Kaptur in the fall.

congratulations Rep Kaptur on your imminent reelection

BREITBART BOMBSHELL VIDEO OF RADICAL OBAMA zzzzzzzz

lol

hope that the dead air slowly takes over his entire show.

hope that the walking dead slowly take over his entire show

this whole thing is interesting, I mean this is far from the most offensive thing this dude has done in his life, this is like, about as offensive as he's been every single day of his life. so why now? internet anger? limbaugh losing influence?

IIRC during the LA riots he was calling the rioters zulus and spearchuckers

Sometimes you just wake up and find the world has passed you by.

it's the internet

xp

this whole thing is interesting, I mean this is far from the most offensive thing this dude has done in his life, this is like, about as offensive as he's been every single day of his life. so why now? internet anger? limbaugh losing influence?

― iatee, Thursday, March 8, 2012 2:10 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm wondering this too. i mean, the 'democrat media conspiracy' explanation is not convincing to me.

sex and contraception are sort of in the atmosphere right now, could just be bad luck. he hit the wrong nerve at the wrong time

and w/o getting too gaze-y here, sandra fluke is v mediagenic

Just GIS'd for sandra fluke, and what do you know? She doesn't look one damn bit like a prostitute or a sex-crazed slut. This may have produced cognitive dissonance in the ur-nation.

oboy does this mean we get to have the "what do prostitutes look like?" conversation again

Well considering she went to testify about a friend of hers who lost an ovary because of a treatable cyst but she couldn't get the birth control pills through her Georgetown Law School insurance and it was never about her having a lot of sex it seems absurd that this is the route they're taking in the first place.

"So my friend has suffered because she couldn't get birth control which provides a number of non-contraceptive health benefits..."

"HUSSY! SLUT! WHORE!"

Not surprised that the Average American is still offended by dishonestly attacking a reasonably hard-working/successful (based on college, etc.) young woman for cheap political points. Folks would probably take less issue with it she were already a public figure, but since she's not it's seen as Limbaugh crossing a line.

ya it's weird that a human being would approach the subject like that but this guy owns a jet because he has been so successful at doing exactly that

looking forward to Limbaugh dying penniless and obscure but somehow I suspect that won't happen

he won't be penniless or obscure, but we can hope for something that's painful and takes a while to kill him.

penis cancer is my first choice

Uh, she's white and middle class, ppl.

As we all know there's a market for martyrdom, and that's what Limbaugh's best at. He'll replace the ad revenue.

Looking forward to his 'A Face in the Crowd' moment or his repentance more than his penis cancer tbph

Some french freedom fry company should come to his rescue.

that was supposed to be french, of course

Hope people vandalize that bust of him that'll be in the Hall of Fame

the Assholes Hall of Fame?

Missouri Hall of Fame iirc

No post ever has called for goatse.cx more and I hope you appreciate my restraint

this whole thing is interesting, I mean this is far from the most offensive thing this dude has done in his life, this is like, about as offensive as he's been every single day of his life. so why now? internet anger? limbaugh losing influence?

imo the deal is that the Republicans have really misjudged whether the country is ready for "people who use birth control are weirdo sex-crazed perverts." There's a very committed constituency within the right that really does believe birth control is 1) wrong 2) a major source of societal ills, and while I don't think they are actually pulling the strings, I think their voices within the discourse -- the fact that Rush would be having Quiverfull-type stuff cross his radar -- opens the door to him expressing this "a person who wants birth control is a whore" opinion. Which isn't as fringe-y as a lot of his other outrageous opinions: his racism, for example, resonates with racists. But birth control? Literally all straight people use birth control - the % of people, Catholics/Quiverfulls included, who never use it at all is so tiny it's homeopathic. Trying to call somebody a slut for using birth control is like calling somebody a glutton because he ate breakfast; it's a tipping point.

the second half of that graf is a mess sorry I'm tired. point is, there's this tiny constituency of people - who write books and make themselves seem like a bigger constituency than they are - who I think Rush might have heard and thought, I'll use that, that's a good line, and he didn't really get that for most people it's not actually a good line

really don't think it's the nature of the insult at work here. the internet has greatly facilitated both the rapid dissemination of the offending remarks, and, more importantly the ability to mobilize punitive actions. prior to searchable databases and social media, it would have been a huge pain in the ass to target all his advertisers, especially in large numbers at the click of a button, and it certainly wouldn't have been done so quickly.

yah you could be right - twitter, especially, is really powerful at getting word out fast

Credit what aero or someone up thread called the mood of the movement for the trouble "Rush" is in now. We've repeatedly seen liberals and Democrats willing to cede ground to the right on reproductive freedom. Rush had the supreme misfortune to make these remarks at a time when liberals felt like they had the public behind them. You can bet that it would have been ignored had this happened in 2010. We can all make lists of offensive shit Rush has said; this is AS bad as other things.

apparently this was a minor thing in this whole mess

http://www.thebigquestions.com/2012/03/02/rush-to-judgment/

the % of people, Catholics/Quiverfulls included, who never use it at all is so tiny it's homeopathic.

totally stealing 'homeopathic' for the next talk i have to give

I was curious to see the response to the HPV vaccine thing w/Bachmann - a bunch of wingnuts basically wrote her off for her comments. Perhaps this is similar for Rush since the lady Fluke was talking about wasn't seeking hormonal contraceptives for fornication but for ovarian problems. I know someone who had a similar ailment and maybe some of them do too and the cheapness of the shot resounded w/some of the base.

totally stealing 'homeopathic' for the next talk i have to give

lol I am legit honored by this!

apparently this was a minor thing in this whole mess

http://www.thebigquestions.com/2012/03/02/rush-to-judgment/

jesus fucking christ, one of the commenters there actually seriously wrote that he couldn't see the misogyny in the word "slut"

can we start over

yeah the % of people who think contraception is a bad thing in toto are a pretty small and powerless bunch. more influential than their raw numbers would suggest, but still quite marginal

however, the % of people who think that talking about your sex life in public makes you a slut is quite a bit higher. and talking about what kinds of basic benefits you'd like to have guaranteed, concurrently? whole lot of folks aren't hearing that either.

the trouble is the numbers of this second group are still not as high a % as they themselves think

I will listen (impatiently tapping my feet) to their arguments about religious freedom when such acts of God like ED and its remedies aren't covered by my insurance payments.

Dr. Giboyeux reports receiving payment for work as the local principal investigator for a decent jukebox anywhere really (RIP CC Club), receiving consulting fees from definitely not that guy at his friend's party inre: non-specific "swelling", and grant support from his pal Grant S. (thanks Grant!); select editorial contributions were given by Texxas Jam '78.