More of a homely overactor joke.
― Eric H., Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:16 (twelve years ago) link
https://twitter.com/#!/j_christley/status/177364394144038912
― Eric H., Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:22 (twelve years ago) link
not authorised to see this status
― Number None, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, I guess he protects his tweets, but it was kind of a wan joke on Bryan Cranston's cameo.
― Eric H., Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:27 (twelve years ago) link
sounds like a pip
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:42 (twelve years ago) link
unprotect wan jokes NOW
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:45 (twelve years ago) link
Still amazed that every trailer I have seen about this has failed to imply the movie is about anything
There are some aliens he bonds with in some way and he's John Carter... of Earth... and there are big battles and a dog thing. That's all I've got so far!
I feel like the trailer needs to either tease the conflict in the plot and make me want to see how it plays out, or at least introduce me to the main character and then throw him on Mars.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:40 (twelve years ago) link
BAR....SOOM
― kinder, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
i think this is the first time i've seen people agree so comprehensively a trailer just doesn't give away enough of the plot
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
doesn't indicate the movie has one, tbh
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
really enjoyed it, up until about 2/3 way through where it starts to drag a little/feel overly familiar
The case with every decent genre movie I've seen in the last umpteen years. The front half is ALWAYS twice as good as the back half. Screenwriterly ppl need to forget everything they think is necessary about 'third acts' IMO.
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
That said, still super psyched to see this.
i think a lot of that is that its just plain easier to introduce a good concept than it is to follow through on it
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
tim riggins is in this movie
lol shirtless tim riggins is like... i am clicking on a thread about this movie
― peebutt fartbottom (Lamp), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
exactly
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
who tf is tim riggins? sounds like a ship's boy in a dickens novel.
― meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
Friday Night Lights
u better recognize
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
there's a guy called john carter, he is on mars, there are fights, what else do you need to know
i don't know. i mean, partly there's the problem that the novel opens basically "so one day after we'd lost the civil war to those damn northerners i had a nap and then i was on mars", i think the first part of that is a tough sell for a trailer
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
the trailers do nothing to convey that hes on mars
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
Not really! I think they could conveniently not mention his allegiance in the Civil War in the trailer, but there's no indication in the press materials that this is a "guy from 1800s gets transported to Mars" flick.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
they do nothing to convey: - the year - the setting - that he had a life before being shirtless in what appears to be New Mexico with a bunch of green people
i don't know, maybe it's hard to get past the fact that i already know the plot of the novel, but the superbowl trailer seems to clearly express: this guy is from earth. he winds up on an alien planet via mysterious means. he ends up in some military-hero role for alien dudes.
my main problem with it is that every line spoken suggests people talk like absolute goobers throughout the movie, tbh? but i'm not sure what else you'd go for with the source material, playing it straight sort of requires that you end up with something incredibly easy to make fun of in that line
re: time: the long-form trailer has a bunch of shots in, well, it looks more like victorian england? but that's another problem, and has people going 'whatever happened to john carter we really don't know', then cut to shirtless new mexico
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
there's no indication that theres any kind of story at all. you can get away with a suggestive teaser trailer that doesn't tell you anything, if it's intriguing or eyecatching in some way, but eventually you do need a trailer that at least gives you a basic 'what is this about' kind of gist. disney obviously has zero confidence in the movie and thinks they have to ambush people with the mars element and the period element, but all that leaves you with is shirtless white guy jumping high (i dont know anything about friday night lights but this taylor kitsch guy looks like a black hole of charisma)
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
watch what u say abt Tim Riggins
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
FUCK TIM RIGGINS!!!!
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
i think "transported to mars" is a tough sell too, because lol mars he's clearly running around with no shirt on and yelling and doing fine -- the long-running 'let us totally ignore everything we actually know about mars!' SF conceit having not been established in film afaik
and yeah the dramatic 'he jumps really high! like really really high!' is pretty woeful
idk i don't really think this qualifies as 'a good trailer' but having heard eight million times the complaint that blockbuster trailers always just give you the whole plot i think it's odd that this becomes the site of complaint for this
(in the academy this is going to be the most pointlessly overdiscussed mediocre film since basic instinct 2)
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
i... im sorry...
wait, dominic west is in this?
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
We're all in this.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
I'm Woola.
;_;
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
basic instinct 2 had some merit
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:03 (twelve years ago) link
Will John Carters of Earth see John Carter?
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:59 (twelve years ago) link
Lotta dead John Carters huh.
― ledge, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:07 (twelve years ago) link
John Carter of IowaJohn Carter of North Dakota
― owenf, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:26 (twelve years ago) link
tim riggins is a charisma supernova fyi
― horseshoe, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:27 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 March 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
calling actors by their TV names is annoying, esp when he's got a great name like Kitsch
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 March 2012 01:06 (twelve years ago) link
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Tim Riggins will be the highpoint of his career
― Number None, Friday, 9 March 2012 01:07 (twelve years ago) link
Okay thank you for clearing that up, I was wondering who this Tim Riggins guy was when everyone seemed to be talking about Kitsch...
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2012 01:09 (twelve years ago) link
idk he wore a swimsuit p well in 'the covenant' but probably
― Lamp, Friday, 9 March 2012 01:33 (twelve years ago) link
it's less depressing to call him Tim Riggins, that way I can pretend Battleship and X Men never happened
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 March 2012 02:34 (twelve years ago) link
Anyway, looks like I will be seeing this thing tomorrow with some friends who are Edgar Rice Burroughs fiends and have been hoping like hell it succeeds. So...we'll see.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2012 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
Keen to find out your thoughts, Ned. fyi you're gonna be my weathervane on this thing
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 March 2012 02:48 (twelve years ago) link
"It was all about Woola's buttface! Oh yeah some dude in a loincloth."
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2012 02:49 (twelve years ago) link
and then there was this crazy pod race in the middle...
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 March 2012 02:52 (twelve years ago) link
"Use your light saber John...oh my!"
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2012 02:56 (twelve years ago) link
looool
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 March 2012 03:01 (twelve years ago) link
Rich Juzwiak @RichJuz: My favorite thing about John Carter is that its first line is "Mars!" (in voice over).
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Friday, 9 March 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
:D
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 March 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link