I went o_0 at the Blur gig prices, but given it's a full day out, which is almost like 1 day of a festival, with 3 headliners I'd be willing to pay £20 a piece for, that's fair enough.
But £65 to see Radiohead and - Caribou? Who I've seen at Sonic Cathedral for a fiver or whatever? - at the O2 Centre? Obviously I am not going, and the cheesecakers probably think I'm a "filler fan" for even complaining.
― ...I KERNOW BECAUSE YOU DO (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
That was the thinking, yes.
I can't think who my OMGMUSTGO band would be nowadays (spoiled, perhaps, as my one *was* the Velvet Underground, who promptly reformed and played my 'local' midsized venue (The Forum) for 'notstupidlyexpensive' ).
― Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't even begrudge the Stone Roses for charging very-silly money, I don't even know why.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
I cannot think of a single band that I would pay £65 to see, just them. Not Aphex Twin, not Radiohead, not Spacemen 3 back from the grave with Jason back on guitar. Obviously I paid a lot more than that to see My Bloody Valentine reform, but that was for a whole festival with a billion other bands I loved!
So I guess that's me out of the running entirely.
― ...I KERNOW BECAUSE YOU DO (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
The £65 (and over) list would end up having to be 'historic' in some sense.
VU, The Jam, The Beatles (I know, I know...), and I suppose if someone had offered me 2 Led Zep tickets I might have considered even though I'm totally meh about them.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, I'm getting ripped a new one for even remarking that £65 might be eye-watering for some, on a ~srs Radiohead fan messageboard~, but, still. I find it excessive.
― ...I KERNOW BECAUSE YOU DO (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
It was a point of mild annoyance, knowing "I will never get to see RH live again" because I can't handle stadium shows, at all, even under the best circumstances. But having changed to "I couldn't actually afford to see RH, even if I wanted to" has kicked that over into actual irritation.
― ...I KERNOW BECAUSE YOU DO (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
But this is my endless dilemma on the interweb. That on ILX, I'm a crazy lunatic fringe over the edge fan ~of artists I love~ while on the actual forums for ~fans of that artist~ I'm y'know, ~not serious enough~.
― ...I KERNOW BECAUSE YOU DO (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
nagl for fans to be judging other fans re: how much money they can spare for gig tickets - I know the vibe is meant to be "beg, steal or borrow" for true believers but if you're in a situation where £65 is too much then it's too much and that's that.
xp The Stone Roses are a special case imo. They all need the money and they never sold that much back in the day relative to their rep so good luck to them. Same goes for most reunion tours - this is their retirement fund.
― Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
Well, yeah. Obviously, I won't be complaining if they get added to the Hyde Park gig, but I would be surprised, obv.
It gets harder for bands to keep rational about how much is "too much", particularly when tickets sell out in seconds anyway. I mean, they invened the 'deluxe LP box' format, and now every act with a certain vanity level is doing them (Badly Drawn Boy? I mean, is that a landfill happening soon?)
Also, when Jagger (he's called that now, yeah?) said about the 'box-set' of "Exile" that "it's not that expensive" I thought to myself "that means £100 is not going to be enough" and yep.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
I hate to say it, but there's definitely a class aspect at work here. That I'm not prepared to begrudge the Stone Roses or any other band that got shafted by their label back in the day, the ability to provide for their families. But I don't get that vibe with RH at all, I get the vibe of still quite well off professionals shovelling loot into their ISAs after they've already paid off the mortgages on the mansions, while still making quite cushy upper middle class salaries from their record sales and merchandising. Which might be unfair, but it is what it is. And that the reason that Radiohead get shit from the NME about ticket prices, while, using the example that was brought up - Peter Gabriel doesn't - is because I don't exactly see Peter Gabriel DJ-ing at Occupy LSX and giving lip service to bringing down the 1% he is a part of while charging those nosebleed ticket prices.
But. It makes me a Bad Fan to say this, I do recognise that.
― ...I KERNOW BECAUSE YOU DO (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
Oh, Radiohead, I hate myself for loving you, part 3,867.
WCC - I feel you on the disappointment wrt the 02 corporate experience/resistance to having to participate in the gig-as-multimedia-attention-deficit-playground potential nightmare. Like anybody, I hate feeling like an old-fart personally, but damn.
― sleigh tracks (1933-1969) (MaresNest), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm gonna throw a "WE CAN'T AFFORD TO GO TO RADIOHEAD" party and play all the albums (and singles, including B-sides) in order and eat cheesecake all night long.
― ...I KERNOW BECAUSE YOU DO (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
Meanwhile, the Big Huge NYT Magazine story on Mr. J. Greenwood:
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
And this Alvernia Studios place he's recording at is tripping me out big time. Designed by H. R. Giger!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Or rather inspired by Giger, but good grief that is nuts.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
That Alvernia website is truly amazing as fuck. O_O thankin' you for alerting me to this.
― Roz, Saturday, 10 March 2012 18:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
I mean the whole thing is incredible of course. But so is the website - seems like you could spend hours just clicking through the virtual tour.
― Roz, Saturday, 10 March 2012 18:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Turangalila, Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
efffffffffffffffffffing stop that.
Jaysus. HE CAN SEE MY SOUL.
I'm trying to cut down on my Thom Yorke obsession because I'm convinced that Radiohead trigger my OCD like all hell but when he looooks liiiikkkee that... EEEEEEEE.
― Masonic Boom, Saturday, 10 March 2012 21:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
(I'm sorry, Melissa, I really tried this time. But I just don't think there *is* a RH fan community that doesn't make me hate them/them hate me, and me hate myself for trying and failing, and hate the band and mine own fandom in the process.)
― Masonic Boom, Monday, 12 March 2012 15:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
i got a copy of the in rainbows ltd ed box for a tenner. great, but it is missing the first cd. is it the same as the normal release one if i want to replace it?
(looking to stick it on ebay obv, already own the normal release.)
― a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 15:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
(to clarify, own it on vinyl, and thus can't tell if the cds look the same.)
― a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 15:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
Not that kind of Radiohead fan, sorry. I can tell you what haircut Thom Yorke has had every year since 1993, but I'm hopeless with discographies and back catalogue.
(I am *always* the wrong kind of RH fan, for everyone.)
― Masonic Boom, Monday, 12 March 2012 15:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
Appearancewise, possibly not: They signed to XL for the eventual shop release. Doubtless that logo will be on the normal release version.
Still, you might find it goes reasonably well without it.
― Mark G, Monday, 12 March 2012 15:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
― a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 15:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
cheers mark. the xl logo isnt on disc 2, guess i'll have to spy a copy of the normal release to see if it is there.
― a hoy hoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 15:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
It seems I am just too ambivalent about mine own Radiohead fandom, and ~real Radiohead fans~ will always sniff that out, and removing me is for the good of the community.
I am always too divisive, often without even meaning to be, and I never do well on single-topic forums to start with.
― Masonic Boom, Monday, 12 March 2012 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Mark G, Monday, 12 March 2012 18:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
"I can tell you what haircut Thom Yorke has had every year since 1993"like watching people solve rubik's cubes in 30 seconds, i would very much like a demonstration of this.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 12 March 2012 18:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
I will probably forget a couple of head-shaves and other tragic haircuts in here but..
-There was the On A Friday schoolboy fringe in 86-Then the blond chin-length bowl cut through most of art school-1992 he did a headshave-1993 the bleached yellow extensions arrived-1994 the extensions got teased up, then Jonny cut them off for that photoshoot-1995 short, spikey hair, first bleached then red-1996 - red, Johnny Rotten stylee-1997 - dyed black-1998 - shaved, bald patches appear-1999 - that Ed Grimley sticky uppy bit appeared-2000 - natural hair colour returns, the beard appears-2001 - Bernard Sumner sticky uppy hair-Beard comes and goes for a whileOh fuck it, I'm going by albums now2002/3 Hail To The Thief era:-the Art Mullet-the Hitler Hairdo fringe to cover bald patchIn Rainbows era:-the Hedgehog-the longer Hedgehog-the "Is he going to cut that thing?"-Full hobo beard in effectSolo shows:-Oh wait, it's kind of a bowl cut-Meg Ryan Aging Rocker hair-"I wear headbands now, headbands are cool"-Wow, That's Some Mullet, ThomThe King of Limbs era:-Long, shaggy unshaped hair-Hair gets kind of trimmed up to resemble, um, the haircut he had at art school actually-That fucken ponytail-???????
I'm sure I'm missing some, without checking pictures archives online and I may have a couple of dates wrong in the early 00s. The only ones I really hated were the shaved head, obv, and the dyed black hair. The cutest was definitely longer hedgehog to bowl cut. I think the haircut he had at the Latitude festival/Cambridge shows was the cutest he's ever had in his life. (Many people disagree.)
― Masonic Boom, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
!!! that was !!!
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 12 March 2012 22:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's kind of "!!!" to me that I've been lusting after Thom Yorke for nearly 20 years. That's like, half my life.
― Masonic Boom, Monday, 12 March 2012 22:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
"Freak monkeys with mediocre tunes."
― LaMonte, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 01:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
― _ANML_, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 04:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
WTF is wrong with me. There are two, count em TWO Radiohead related events in London tonight, and I'm not going to either one of them.
I think The Fandom has done in my fandom. I hate that.
― Masonic Boom, Thursday, 22 March 2012 11:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
Arseholes have charged me for two pairs of tickets with the same names on. What do you reckon are my chances of being able to get my friends in if their names aren't on the tickets? Bearing in mind this is the O2.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 22 March 2012 11:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
I feel that I am completely indifferent about a Radiohead album release now.
"In Rainbows" was a minor step in the right direction, then last year's release was their worst ever. Frankly, I don't care anymore. Not until they finally make a proper followup to "OK Computer", but they seem to have left that up to Pineapple Tree and Elbow.
― Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 22 March 2012 12:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm assuming you mean Porcupine Tree lol
Actually you're pretty OTM about them, although I think Steven Wilson's two solo albums (which are both excellent) are closer to OK Computer than PT are.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 22 March 2012 12:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
You two are definitely on the wrong thread. I mean, I have my doubts that DC might be a fangirl, but I think he's got it in him, but Geir has never and will never be a fangirl.
I am boycotting the O2 Centre forever so I have no idea how fascist bastardy the place is, but the tour seems to have had its share of ticketing problems.
Anyway. Tonight. I'm definitely not going to Penderecki, no matter how much the Barbican stalks me about it. (Sorry, I used up this month's budget for contemporary classical on the Nico Muhly/O-Palz thing, which actually I think I probably enjoyed more than I'd enjoy Penderecki in any format.)
I just wish I could stop being a mope about the Stanley Donwood thing tonight. Like, I do actually want that book (won't grumble about him biting my style, honest) but I don't know that I can deal with a ~signing~ and all that and there's all this gossip about ~who will turn up where~ because apparently TY often goes to his shows, but that's a reason that I would NOT go because the idea of running into him in the flesh in a little bookshop in Notting Hell is, well, ARGH so I should just order the book off the website and be done with it. But I feel stupid for feeling that way.
Someone post a picture of the red trousers so I feel better.
― Masonic Boom, Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
^^^^short dude with boner-pants complex.
― Masonic Boom, Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
Are those 501s?
I have a pair.
― Mark G, Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't know what they are but I LOVE it every time he wears them.
I mean, there were those 501s they all got on an early Japanese tour that they wore so tight that fangirls have known ever since who packs on which side (except for Ed, oddly, who got cut off by a page crease) but, erm, even those were not as, erm... revealing as those red trousers.
Do you understand now, the excitement when they resurfaced?
― Masonic Boom, Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
No, I mean Pineapple Thief.
Porcupine Tree aren't that Radiohead influenced. Pineapple Thief are sort of a cross-inbetween Porcupine Tree and Radiohead, actually. :)
― Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
haircut rundown justifies the thread
― internet somebody (some dude), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
I totally missed a really key and important stage!
Kid A - brushed-forward Caesar crop
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
(I am slightly embarrassed to confess, I don't actually hate Popcorn Superhet Receiver. I thought it was going to be awful artwank, but it sounds like the weird tapes that HSA's sound artist friends used to make. I don't like having to re-evaluate my dismissal of artists like this.)
― Masonic Boom, Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
You should listen to 48 Responses to Polymorphia, I think you'd be surprised.
― Melissa W, Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:47 (1 year ago) Permalink