For myself, I would gladly cease having to post my monthly series of "It's....in Iraq" on ILE, say. Perhaps I will never be given the chance to stop, and I will have to keep counting up the dead and snarling at the idiocies of this world. This said, I still happen to merrily believe that, say, the Darkness deserve massive and bloody beatings.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― jj dncr, Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:25 (nineteen years ago) link
A peek into the past: Neil Tennant on the power of hate
While the references in many cases are dated, this specific point is potent:
That?s the thing about negative energy, about hatred. It can be positive. It throws into relief all the things you know you like. It tells you, by elimination, what you?re about. Sometimes you can only define yourself by what you hate.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― piscesboy, Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 00:42 (nineteen years ago) link
War criminals, killer tsunamis, racism = a more serious matter than discussing music on the internet.
OTM.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 01:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― jj dncr, Wednesday, 29 December 2004 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― jj dncr, Wednesday, 29 December 2004 01:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― jj dncer, Wednesday, 29 December 2004 01:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― jj dncuh, Wednesday, 29 December 2004 01:18 (nineteen years ago) link
The same, though, as defining yourself by your friends and/or certain values -- both approaches can lead to a self-righteous state (but do not have to).
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 01:22 (nineteen years ago) link
Well, by your estimation, the only reason "Eyes Without a Face" was a sizable hit was because that it was "Prince-like". Why not give Billy Idol a little of his own fuckin' credit, huh?
You interpret my opinions as hateful, yet we've never met. Nine-tenths of the comments I make are with tongue firmly in cheek and they are rarely meant as personal slights.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 01:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― jj dncr, Wednesday, 29 December 2004 01:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 01:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 01:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 01:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― jj dncr, Wednesday, 29 December 2004 01:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 01:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 01:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― jj dncr, Wednesday, 29 December 2004 01:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― jj dncr, Wednesday, 29 December 2004 01:59 (nineteen years ago) link
And as a final thought before I go pick my wife up at the airport, while it's true that I do indeed work as a tiny cog in the vast corporate Death Star that is Time Warner, I do not define myself by my job. I dearly love a lot of the folks I work with at TIME magazine, but if you've been reading ILX over the past year and a half, you might've noticed a thread or two wherein I lament the fact that I'm working where I'm working and that I'm actually trying to leave the magazine (although my reasons have nothing to do with the magazine's hotly debated political leanings). You never honestly answered my question about how you pay your rent and feed your family, so I can't grill you in kind.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 02:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 02:09 (nineteen years ago) link
Other than that, you're all just a bunch of wet noodlers.
― Bimble..., Wednesday, 29 December 2004 05:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 07:49 (nineteen years ago) link
... both wr2 "eyes w/t a face" (a big hit when i was a teenager) and a certain poster's lefter-than-thou rhetoric (and who has, undoubtedly, never worked at a REAL job a day in his life, has no loans/mortgages/etc. to worry about, yadda yadda yadda).
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 08:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 09:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link
Alex, COME ON.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 20:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link
Don't call me a racist, please.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 23:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 23:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 29 December 2004 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 30 December 2004 00:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― LSTD (answer) (sexyDancer), Thursday, 30 December 2004 00:28 (nineteen years ago) link
sheesh!
― piscesboy, Thursday, 30 December 2004 00:40 (nineteen years ago) link
without having seen this thread!didn't find it (can always iPod it), but I did find Van Halen II, so whoever shows will "Dance The Night Away"
― Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 30 December 2004 07:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 30 December 2004 07:05 (nineteen years ago) link
"i'm on a bus,on a psychedelic trip,between burning up booksand trying to stay hip"
does this belong in the same category as the contemporaneous lyrical hash that duran duran were slinging out? or is it actually supposed to MEAN something?
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 30 December 2004 07:07 (nineteen years ago) link
xpost
― Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 30 December 2004 07:07 (nineteen years ago) link
KIDDING!
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 30 December 2004 07:19 (nineteen years ago) link
the lyrics in the sort of breakout part of this are fucking hilarious and terrible. they feel like they were written by someone's dad impersonating a rebellious figure. especially the way he sings "ooh, the gigolo pool".
When you hear the music you make a dipInto someone else's pocket then make a slip.Steal a car and go to Las Vegas oh, the gigolo pool.
Hanging out by the state line,Turning holy water into wineDrinkin' it down, ohI'm on a bus on a psychedelic tripReading murder books tryin' to stay hip.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 23 January 2017 23:26 (seven years ago) link
i think id like to make an edit of this track where that bit doesn't happen
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Monday, 23 January 2017 23:33 (seven years ago) link
ha, i didn't read the previous revive of this thread. a common complaint it seems
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Monday, 23 January 2017 23:35 (seven years ago) link
i would also put the bpm down by 5 or so
i always thought the lyric was "ooh, the gigolo crew" which is funnier and worse than "gigolo pool" which sounds like a venue or something. i like the idea of idol referring to himself and some cronies as "the gigolo crew".
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 23 January 2017 23:37 (seven years ago) link
this is a boss tune and the breakdown and the rest are as luridly trashy as each other
killing yourself would be preferable to editing it into a lynch meets soft sad techno komkukt jam
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 00:07 (seven years ago) link
it's all trashy but the breakdown guitar sound is just unforgivable.
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 00:10 (seven years ago) link
the arguing at the beginning of this thread between press outlets about Dubya coverage is ... something
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 00:15 (seven years ago) link
xp great riff, you're unforgivable
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 00:18 (seven years ago) link
Apart from that, it's a classic. And Prince couldn't rock this hard if his purple little life depended on it.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, December 28, 2004
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 00:18 (seven years ago) link
I'm on a bus on a psychedelic tripReading murder books tryin' to stay hip.
Can imagine Dylan flipping over these cue cards
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 02:49 (seven years ago) link
I never heard this song growing up, only heard the italo disco version (sung in Italian!) that omits the middle section, and assumed it was an original until only a few years ago. Funny that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJIfAciHPo8
― Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 03:43 (seven years ago) link
I like the solo but yeah the bridge singing is pretty mood-breaking. Still a fantastic song
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 05:40 (seven years ago) link
i'm into the bridge. lyrics look ridic spelled out like that, but it's all about that cadence and the marriage of the groove with the buttrock riff. plus it has that cool, careening guitar feedback thing in there. i'll go the opposite way: i'll make an edit of just this part and rock all y'all!
― andrew m., Tuesday, 24 January 2017 14:58 (seven years ago) link
say your pra-hayers
saay yo-our pra-haayyers
― andrew m., Tuesday, 24 January 2017 14:59 (seven years ago) link
i'm always psyched to hear this song, such a finely distilled mood. I understand wanting to erase the middle eight but then you'd lose OOOH GIGOLO POOL which along with THE WOMAN IS WILD OOOOOO is one of the most useful 80s eruptions for almost any situation
― his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link
Mangzorz1 month agoThe break down is the best part of this song... "I'm on a bus on a psychedelic trip, reading murder books and trying to stay hip" Dude, my entire life, Billy...you truly get me.
― salthigh, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:03 (seven years ago) link
the opening synths are incredible
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:11 (seven years ago) link