"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

It seemed like they followed the right bearing in the helicopter, though there was a descrepancy between Faraday's bearing and the one Ben gave to Michael and Walt--though they were close (305 and 325 I think.) So if Ben was right, then maybe the time sickness is taking a really long time to catch up to them.

I just read that one of the series regulars that's been on since season 1 won't be back next season but WILL be back in season 6. I'm guessing it's Claire.

Yeah, I have heard it's Claire. Season 5 is supposed to be about getting back to the island and 6 about what happens once they get back, so it makes sense.

Hopefully the absence of one pretty Blonde will give them enough screen space for LIBBY! I want to see some crazy Widmore flashbacks in which we find out she was working for or related to Charles! There has to be some explanation for her being in Hurley's hospital and giving Desmond the boat - not to mention her showing up in Michael's hallucinations (considering he killed Ana Lucia too - unless Michelle Roderiguez just wasn't available for an appearance..)

^^ good point!

Libby is my big irritant among all the unsolved mysteries of Lost... she's had a bunch of different lives and they even mentioned her during the press conference when they said "Boone Carlisle, Charlie Pace and Libby all survived but died" - they're so set on hiding her name! Not to mention the craziness of Desmond running off and coming back conveniently in time to miss her arrival on the beach and subsequent death.

Yeah I'd really love her to be back on since they've pretty much left her story hanging for two seasons now. and cause the show is seriously lacking female characters right now. i mean, for all the fuss that Harold Perrineau made about black characters dying on the show, surely females get a rawer deal - not counting redshirts, we've so far lost shannon, ana-lucia, libby, colleen, bea klugh, nikki, isabel, danielle and alex, plus claire for next season.

from the men's side, there's: boone, ethan, goodwin, nathan, eko, tom, pickett, paolo, charlie, mikail, the doc, keamy, michael and maybe jin - but then there are far more central male characters on Lost than females.

Thanks for the clarity Nhex – I'd forgotten that the flashforwards covered so much time.

It's funny, I just assumed that because of Christian's appearance at the last second that Michael would be fine. But I guess Perrineau thought he'd been killed off and went on that tirade, and now I hear they're doing focus groups to figure out if he should come back at all. I think for the island to save him only to have him be killed off right away is weak dramatically – I thought for sure they'd keep him around to be reunited with Walt at the end. Show's about redemption, after all.

Agreed about Libby needing more screentime as well. Is she with Abbadon?

I wonder how much they'll use Widmore next season since they have to fly to London everytime they want to do a scene with that actor. Abbadon's role might be beefed up due to this.

In March 2008, Dale replaced Peter Davison in the lead role of King Arthur in the London West End production of Monty Python's Spamalot at the Palace Theatre.[7] He was cast in the role after he was told he was being written out of Ugly Betty, was a fan of Monty Python and considered that "life's too short" for him to have turned down a West End part.[4] He will be succeeded in the role by Sanjeev Bhaskar on June 23, 2008.[8]

Am I the only person who doesn´t give a shit about Libby anymore? maybe they´ll think up some new angle for her past but can´t see much point in her backstory now.

libby's a hanging thread, but unlike a lot of the other hanging threads on the show (danielle's story, four-toed statue, etc), not getting more on her is going to be the one thing that really sticks out after the show's over because she's so prominent in all the flashbacks she's appeared in, and especially because they keep mentioning her even after she's dead.

isn't the actress who plays libby on some new NBC show? i'm guessing we'll not see a lot of her.

from the men's side, there's: boone, ethan, goodwin, nathan, eko, tom, pickett, paolo, charlie, mikail, the doc, keamy, michael and maybe jin - but then there are far more central male characters on Lost than females.

What, are you suggesting Mikail didn't survive that silly little point-blank grenade blast? Even a mutilated corpse might not convince me of that dude's actual demise at this point.

More wild predictions: Gin will be joining Daniel and the raft party, whose rescue and/or search for the island will constitute a third tier of the action in the upcoming season.

i'd love for Mikhail to come back but i think the producers confirmed he's dead? otherwise, i'm pretty sure that Jin's fine and by the time they see him again he'll be completely fluent in americanese, and not just lapsing into it occasionally.

oops: Gin = Jin. Guess you can tell where my mind is tonight.

i love both Jin and Gin equally.

i have never given a fuck about libby

i only care about libby because i care about hurley.

god, he's so obnoxious! also way to be a dick to your dad when he gives you a car

hurley´s obnoxious?! wtf

am still loving the weekend at benry´s premise set up by ben´s "uh, jack, we ALL have to go back" line indicating locke. then fantasised briefly about the O6 HIJACKING a plane after Jack works his "c´mon i gotta bury my dad i mean friend i mean nemesis" magic with the reluctant desk girl. with locke on board the plane can crash on the island again - locke in place of christian etc. would love to know what ben´s "ideas" for locating it are.

locke is jack's dad and the original crash is actually the one the O6 have to engineer because time is a loop.

oh like he doesn't know where it is!
xpost

he might, he might not. he didn´t know it´d toss him to tunisia in 2005 did he?

I'm predicting dead Locke is going to get back to the island and usurp Jacob.

Also the island is a spaceship.

Hurley started driving that car eventually, right? That's the one he drives across town in the car chase at the start of S4 isn't it?

I think Hurley can be forgiven for being a bit of a dick to his dad seeing as his dad walked out on them when he was a child and only turned up again when he discovered his son was a mult-millionaire.

xpost On any other show, I would welcome spaceships but not this one. For a show so concerned with the idea of humanity (...the nature of), bringing aliens into it = BOO.

NOT SURE IF MORE LIKING THE DANIEL UNSTUCK IN SPACE-TIME THEORY OR THE DANIEL/JIN ISLAND SEARCHING TEAM-UP THEORY...BOTH ARE GOOD I AM SAYING

Amusing interview with Naveen Andrews:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/a99429/qa-naveen-andrews-lost.html

That is a great interview! And whoah, he only watched the pilot! How strange must that be.

...which of the many twists do you want to find out the answer to?
"The foot with the f**king toe missing. What was that and is it going to come back? Is there going to be two feet next time, with a geezer on top as the rest of the body?"

This is brilliantly in touch with alot of viewers I think!

re: Daniel/Jim's wild ride: Jin's a fisherman so they should be okay for food as well. I like it!

Haha Daniel and Jin alone in the sea together would be hilarious, they just wouldn't be able to communicate with one another. Jin would look at Daniel earnestly and say in his best English "do you want fish?" and Dan would be staring right past him and going "well... fish is kind of an elastic concept at this point..."

Haha.

Maybe he's been keeping that tie on all this time so that it will be used to create a fishing lure/boomerang/parachute for rescue.

Just watched the pilot of JJ Abrams' Fringe.

It could be the best show since Lost began. Serious.

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It could be the best show since Lost began. Serious.

Wow, I had the opposite reaction, I thought it was really derivative. I liked the production values and the lead actress is good, but there was nothing I haven't really seen before.

I liked Fringe a lot but yeah, wasn't that blown away. It's kinda standard JJ Abrams, I guess. hot female lead with loyal support team and a big mystery conspiracy. Only this time less spy hijinks, more pseudoscience. And Dharma/Hanso-like evil corporations rather than evil governments.

I'm guessing Michael Giacchino does the music for Fringe as well - he does the same cello "bong" sound whenever there's a crucial reveal/plot point. At one point, they re-used the bit from when the castaways are traipsing across the island in the finales... it was really odd and distracting to hear the Lost score on a different show.

Yeah, the re-used musical cues were distracting, since I recognized them from Lost too. I just assumed it was a temp track, like the Morricone cue from The Mission that was in every trailer for a few years. And I thought the credit sequence was unfinished, it seemed pasted on.

Kirk Acevedo's final monologue was … painful. Was it a good idea to cast Lance Reddick again? He's awesome but I dunno about having him in two Abrams shows at once. (Trying not to go into too much detail since offtopic and possibly spoilery.)

you're probably right that it is temp music - i forget they never settle these things for pilot episodes and assumed, with Abrams and Reddick in it, that they just got Giacchino to do it as well. I think the show has room to improve.. maybe get better writers. Dialogue was awful.

i don't really see a problem with Reddick being on both shows so long as they don't decide to significantly expand his role on Lost. I mean Alan Dale/Charles Widmore is on at least three or four different shows at a time (he's still a regular on Ugly Betty right? plus all his brit shows) and they still managed to make it work somehow.

widmore was killed off ugly betty at the end of last season i think but yeah, it was never really a problem having him on both.

ah ok.

btw, there's a tiny Lost shout-out near the start... i won't spoil it here, but did anyone else spot it? and their head showrunner is former Lost exec/writer Jeff Pinkner, so i'm guessing lots of little crossover-refs like this between these two shows if Fringe gets picked up.

plus all his brit shows

Er, these don't exist.

Well, except for one episode of Torchwood.

yeah? i thought he did a couple of other UK shows plus Spamalot. In any case, the guy seems to be regularly employed.

Britishes know him as Jim Robinson, one of the original characters from the popular Aussie soap Neighbours. He had one of the two most distressing death scenes of my childhood.

It doesn't matter how much A List American telly Alan Dale does, he will always be Jim Robinson to us.

Man, I bet he hates that.

Where'd you guys see Fringe? It's supposed to be premiering in Sept.

A couple of comments:

1. Adam + Eve = Bernard + Rose, obviously? Hasn't this occurred to anyone else?
2. Jack is not going to be able to convince everyone to go back to the island. He's going to have a kidnap at least one of them (part of what Ben meant by saying he could help).

"obviously"

I would swear off tv forever.

had no idea there were so many deleted scenes from s 4.

like this one with Sawyer and Hurley:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxQFds-RdFA&feature=related

Locke and Ben:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1eTZZVcXX4

Any ideas on what we should name the final season thread? (or whether there should be an Anticipation thread first)

"The Island That Couldn't Slow Down"

"Everything that comes before is just progress."

^^

ha, that's a good one. though I'd prefer one that foreshadows the inevitable cawing and internet rage at the series' inevitable mystical/illogical/ambiguous ending

Or:
Rose: "It's always something with you people."

Or:
Juliet: "You want out or you want to stay here and whine about it?"

"Welcome to the Meeting, Twitchy"

Whatever happened, might have happened...

I'd prefer one that foreshadows the inevitable cawing and internet rage at the series' inevitable mystical/illogical/ambiguous ending

Lost Season 6: The Wrath of Jughead

"Welcome to the Meeting, Twitchy" gets my vote. I miss Faraday :(

The island wanted LOST SEASON SIX THREAD to happen

boom

I've been rewatching the entire series (all the mythology weighed down the show in my memory and I had forgotten just how much FUN it is to watch), and Season 5 really holds up. It's the most carefully constructed, and though the time travel loop stuff can get confusing, I love the way themes and scenes from earlier in the season come back to play in the latter part of the season. It's impressive writing.

Also, it's a bummer that most of the actors' careers have fizzled out since the show ended. Where have you gone Josh Holloway? Surely someone can find another good role for Naveen Andrews?

It's great that Season 5 handled time travel without any serious complications. And the Sawyer-Juliet episode "LaFleur" was one of the best episodes of the series. They never figured out who was shooting at them on the boats, however.

That's the one mystery they didn't solve. Maybe it serves to show that there have been people shooting at each other on that island for centuries.

When people say this is a disappointment I just don't get it . This show was a huge part of my life and I will defend it to the end

The show *really* lost its way in the fifth season finale and the final season, but I still think fondly of it. The podcast was fun.