This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2005

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Most conspicuously steady walkouts: a tie between my Peter Kubelka experience and Peter Watkins' La Commune.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:13 (eighteen years ago) link

So, I guess that the reason some of the critics awards this year are a tad later than usual is all to be blamed on The New World and Munich, right?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean, if you like Haneke you'll probably like it. Formally, it's fantastic. But it's also mean and nasty and opportunistic.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Also he films the supposed "video surveillance" footage on the same 35mm as the rest of the movie, which really bugged me.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm becoming a real moralist in my advanced years. Perhaps Hidden will not be for me.

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:18 (eighteen years ago) link

When is The New World released?

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:18 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0402399/releaseinfo

I think it's mostly that the critics' screenings for both films are fairly late in the game. Long past the time Peter Travers would wish to post his first-outta-the-gate top 10. (I'd expect The New World to be on his list when the time comes, simply based off his predictability.)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:24 (eighteen years ago) link

not all of the films I saw this year, but most:

Funniest movie I saw this year:
Green Street Hooligans (unintentional)

Best films:
Wedding Crashers
The Constant Gardener
Masculin-Feminin (re-release, obviously)
The Devil's Rejects
My Summer of Love
Serenity

Good, but not the best:
Good Night & Good Luck
Domino
The Island
Hustle & Flow
Mr. & Mrs. Smith
Layer Cake
The Skeleton Key (shockingly enough)
The Longest Yard

Better than expected but still not very good:
Cry_Wolf
Lord of War

Disappointingly Mediocre:
Land of the Dead
Corpse Bride
Jarhead
Walk The Line

I watched it again for Nicole Kidman:
The Interpreter

Totally Overrated (but not necessarily bad):
2046
Broken Flowers
Oldboy
Batman Begins
40-Year Old Virgin
A History of Violence

Boy did these fucking suck:
Willy Wonka
Sin City
Bad News Bears
The Brothers Grimm

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:34 (eighteen years ago) link

HaHA!


You saw The Island.

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:39 (eighteen years ago) link

It was good!

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:40 (eighteen years ago) link

ok

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I daresay it was Michael Bay's finest effort. I will treasure it forever.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:41 (eighteen years ago) link

It goes a bit upside down with the ending though, I mean talk about a character leap.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:42 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't watch movies anymore.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:43 (eighteen years ago) link

What if Caveh Zahedi asked you to?

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:46 (eighteen years ago) link

What if luna asked you to?

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Did anyone see Where The Truth Lies?

no, and it got buried so quickly in the US it's shameful. I really wanted to see it, just couldn't make it.

I didn't see too many movies out this year, and that was partly because, for the first time in a long time, I found myself really disappointed in movies. I don't know if it's jsut because I've reached some saturation point where I've realized "fuck this, this was NOT worth the $20 we just spent to see it" or what. But Me You And Everyone We Know? MEH. Broken Flowers? Gimmie a fucking break.

I liked:

2046
Wallace and Grommit
Walk the Line

that was about it.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:51 (eighteen years ago) link

oh 40 year old virgin was good too

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:51 (eighteen years ago) link

willy wonka, broken flowers, history of violence: THESE WERE TERRIBLE.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:52 (eighteen years ago) link

The full-frontal scene in Broken Flowers was horrifying. What was Jarmusch thinking?

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw so few movies in theaters this year, because of new parenthood. Watched a lot of Netflix. But I loved 2046 (overrated my fanny), liked Broken Flowers and Kung Fu Hustle, was intrigued but not bowled over by Tropical Malady (prompted me to rent Mysterious Object at Noon, which I liked better), liked The Squid and the Whale a lot, A History of Violence just slightly less, felt well-informed but somewhat under-entertained by Good Night and Good Luck, and had a predictably good time at Curse of the Were-Rabbit. Oh yeah, Grizzly Man, that was pretty great.

I didn't even realize Where the Truth Lies had been released in the U.S. I was kind of keeping an eye out for it, but I guess not enough of one.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Good Night and Good Luck should win a bunch of cinematography awards. Best-looking film I've seen in ages.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:58 (eighteen years ago) link

kyle, you were saying two years ago that you didn't get anything from movies!


You like tv.

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Favorites:
Batman Begins
Constant Gardener
Wild Parrots Of Telegraph Hill
Broken Flowers
Walk The Line

Pleasantly surprised:
Four Brothers
Tell Them Who You Are

wish I'd never bothered:
Crash
Sahara
Lord Of War
High Tension


VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't watch movies anymore.
-- jay blanchard (kinojay3...), December 2nd, 2005.

What if Caveh Zahedi asked you to?
-- Soledad (adamr...), December 2nd, 2005.

What if luna asked you to?
-- Soledad (adamr...), December 2nd, 2005.


uhh....I'm scared.

And, yeah, for the record, I'd pretty much do what either Caveh or Luna asked me to do, including (but not limited to) taking a ridiculously large quantity of psychedelic mushrooms on camera or dropping trow for an underwear thread gone seriously out of control.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:28 (eighteen years ago) link

same categories as milo upthread, plus a couple revisions:

Funniest movie I saw this year:
TV Party

Best retro screenings at Oak Street (or elsewhere):
Late Spring
Mouchette
The Exterminating Angel
The Passenger
Seventh Heaven // A Single Girl

Best NEW films:
Kings and Queen
War of the Worlds
Land of the Dead

Good, but not the best:
Forty Shades of Blue
Cinévardaphoto
The Joy of Life
The World
The Best of Youth
The Devil's Rejects
Ma Mère

Better than expected but still not very good:
Capote
3-Iron
Clean

Disappointingly Mediocre:
Harry and Max
Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch & the Wardrobe
Nine Lives
The Family Stone
Proof

I watched it again for Nicole Kidman:
Roll Bounce (still didn't see her)

Totally Overrated (but not necessarily bad):
A History of Violence
Grizzly Man
Kung Fu Hustle

Boy did these fucking suck:
I'll just say Crash since everything else was good in comparison

obligatory "TV buries movies these days" slumming:
"Noah's Arc" on Logo

Honeymoon and marriage is over but I'll still have sex on the sly:
Last Days

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 2 December 2005 05:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Good:
40 Year Old Virgin
Sideways (yeah I know most of you saw it in 2004)
Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory
Sin City

Passable:
Batman Begins
Constant Gardener
Jarhead
Cinderella Man

Poor:
Everything is Illuminated

o. nate (onate), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Willy Wonka = Charlie

o. nate (onate), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link


Innocence ran EXACTLY ONE WEEK in New York, so I missed it. If it had been about the eroticism of pre-adolescent BOYS, it'd be packing them in at the 13th St Quad where all the bad gay movies do well.

Fewer Hollywood films than ever for me this year. I need to rent some obvious garbage just cuz there must be SOMETHING worse than Batman Begins.

Early cream o' crop, roughly in order:

The Joy of Life
2046
The White Diamond
Saraband
Kung Fu Hustle
L'Esquive (Games of Love and Chance)
Private

Schultze Gets the Blues
Chain
Grizzly Man
Los Muertos The Ice Harvest
Rize
Tony Takitani
Mysterious Skin

Tim Burton's Corpse Bride
Tropical Malady
Cinevardaphoto
Gabrielle
A State of Mind
Midwinter Night's Dream
Head-On

Machuca
War of the Worlds
Clean
Save the Green Planet
Junebug
The Best of Youth
The Beat That My Heart Skipped

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, I forgot Shopgirl. Put that under Good as well.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Very good :
Tropical Malady
A History Of Violence
3-Iron
Kung-Fu Hustle

Good :
Primer
Last Days
Vital
Howl's Moving Castle
Land Of The Dead
2046

Harmless :
Willy Wonka
The Brothers Grimm

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

What do you still have to see, s1ocki?

so many! my piece is due next friday so next week i'm going to press screenings of brokeback mtn & capote (still not out here, that one) even though i'm not reviewing them, just for possible top 10 purposes.

i'd also like to see the constant gardener, kiss kiss bang bang, & good night & good luck before deadline!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

so far, i guess...

VERY GOOD:
the taste of tea (won't count for my list as it only festival-screened in montreal this year... but best movie i saw this year by far)
war of the worlds
squid vs. whale
la niña santa

GOOD:
syriana
kung fu hustle
sin city
batman begins
zorro
the devil's rejects
zathura
deuce bigelow 2
primer
hustle & flow

WORST:
elektra
star wars
casanova
be cool
the pacifier
racing stripes

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I figured out last night that I've only seen 12 new movies this year. Yikes. What is wrong with me? Favorites asterisked. The only one I really DID NOT like was 2046.

2046
The Aristocrats
Broken Flowers
*Capote
Crash
*Grizzly Man
*A History of Violence
Howl's Moving Castle
Hustle and Flow
Kings and Queen
Me and You and Everyone We Know
Where the Truth Lies

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

i wish grizzly man had been out here for more than one fucking week! and i wish the distributor had bothered to TELL ANYONE! let alone have a press screeening!! ARGH

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyone see The Night Of Truth: That is the best film I've seen this year by quite some way.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

i managed to catch innocence in that seven-day window. it's great!

i can't possibly choose a best-of yet (too much i didn't see) but the filmGOING experience of the year for me by far was the NYUFF showing of a family finds entertainment (which culminated in a guerrilla musical performance by the cast with all sorts of funky props, including a MASSIVE BALLOON STRUCTURE!!!) (the movie itself is hysterically art-wacky and all the better for it)

joseph (joseph), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link

loved:
the constant gardener
a history of violence
the squid & the whale
batman begins
40 year old virgin
wedding crashers
the aristocrats
harry potter & the goblet of fire (which i didn't actually like, and have decided from here on out the movies will probably be crap, but fear the wrath of something if i don't include it... because, well, it's harry potter)

kinda enjoyed:
mr. & mrs. smith (but i still think it would have been better with will ferrell in brad pitt's role)
land of the dead

wish had been better:
jarhead

disliked:
thumbsucker
that stupid cameron diaz toni colette one

wish i'd seen/still have to see:
grizzly man
howl's moving castle
oldboy
rize

firstworldman (firstworldman), Saturday, 3 December 2005 04:37 (eighteen years ago) link

don't think i saw a single foreign film in the theater this year. and lately i rent them but don't watch them.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Saturday, 3 December 2005 04:39 (eighteen years ago) link

for some reason the netflix film that just arrived at my door is melinda and melinda. oh woody, it's been so long.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 3 December 2005 07:22 (eighteen years ago) link

From best to worst -

Nobody Knows
Mysterious Skin
Hana & Alice
Kung Fu Hustle
Batman Begins
A Bittersweet Life
Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
Downfall
Corpse Bride
Mind Game
Crying Fist
Danny The Dog
Wedding Crashers
AV
Seven Swords
Howl's Moving Castle
2046
3 Iron
Clean
War Of The Worlds
Me And You And Everyone We Know
Gunner Palace
Layer Cake
Be Cool
House Of Fury
Assault On Precinct 13
Tropical Malady
Sin City
Crash
Hell On Wheels
1735km
Grizzly Man
Initial D
Rebound

Mil (Mil), Saturday, 3 December 2005 12:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I watched Nobody Knows the other night and wish I liked it more; the first Kore-eda film where I though the slow pace actually drrraaaged.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 3 December 2005 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link

for some reason the netflix film that just arrived at my door is melinda and melinda. oh woody, it's been so long.

After M&M, I bet it will be even longer until you see another Woody.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Saturday, 3 December 2005 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw "Me and You and Everyone We Know" last night, and it was pretty good.

o. nate (onate), Saturday, 3 December 2005 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I forgot the one really shitty film I saw this year - Casshern. God, it was interminable.
Add The Sun to the list of very good films, I forgot that one.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Sunday, 4 December 2005 00:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Melinda and Melinda BLOWS!!

Chino (nordicskilla), Sunday, 4 December 2005 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Were Chiwetel Ejiofor and Radha Mitchell good?

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 4 December 2005 01:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Melinda and Melinda BLOWS!!

haha, i just watched that this afternoon! i didn't think it was terrible, but it was probably a failure. a not altogether uninteresting one, though. and i actually thought radha mitchell's perf. was quite good.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 4 December 2005 02:04 (eighteen years ago) link

favorites:
me and you and everyone we know
capote
rize
murderball
good night and good luck

Tape Store (Tape Store), Monday, 5 December 2005 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I forgot Cannibal Holocaust in my "best retro screenings" category. Renoir's Boudu Saved from Drowning and The Crime of M. Lange too.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 5 December 2005 02:41 (eighteen years ago) link

A lot of groaners in the readers' comments (usually at their worst when readers seem to merely be aping or re-writing FC writers' thoughts), but there are a few funny ones also. Like the one on Miranda July's, which is like an epigram for ILE's film threads.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, I got a similar comment on the July movie from a friend after he saw it on my best-of.

Eric, I take it you've seen Yehuda Levi in Yossi & Jagger (I missed) or that was an impactful 3 seconds.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think I was more annoyed by a film all year than by July's smugfest.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, it was Y&J (not particularly good) that brought Levi to my attention.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I can see why ppl wd hate it, but more for alleged 'tweeism' than smugness.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 March 2006 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Did anyone read Howard Hampton's "top ten-making" demurral in Film Comment? I have to say I identify. I really can't work up the enthusiasm I'd like to possess for more than 5 or 6 films from last year, and I don't think I'd give a "4-star" rating to anything but The Joy of Life (no mersh distrib) and Munich.

The Oughties are striking me the way '90s music struck Stephin Merritt: best ever for reissues, worst ever for new stuff.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Apparently Stephin Merritt didn't listen to pop radio from roughly 1990-1994.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link

stephen merritt is an idiot!

gear (gear), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link

i would like to note the first paragraph of this movie review by armond white:

Let Viggo Mortenson rehash the tired clichés of fantasy and thrillers. Moviegoers with hearts, minds and eyes know that Paul Walker is a more significant movie icon. Walker confirms his movie star status with Eight Below.

gear (gear), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Morb: what'd you think of Kings & Queen? I'm halfway done.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I need to see K&Q again -- I liked Amalric enormously, the film OK. Desplechin has never really done it for me (coming closest with My Sex Life...oh GOD, don't get me started on the two between those). It may be a verbal-centric film like that loses something in translation (which doesn't explain why I love some Rohmer).

I'd put K&Q in a rundown of the Respectable Overrateds like this one (thx for alerting me to him, Eric):

http://www.geocities.com/michaelsicinski/2005notgoodenoughformyexactingtaste.htm


Stephin M. is not remotely an idiot, even if he's wrong. I also would not take pop radio of '90-94 over any other era but '94-present. (obv since SM is of my generation, tho I was Indie Rock and he was not -- landing on Merge notwithstanding -- we're more apt to agree).

Alfred, first-time film viewings in pieces? Go to confession.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 March 2006 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I was cooking! And now I've started a thread

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 16 March 2006 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I, on the other hand, would not take Indie Rock over any other genre...

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 17 March 2006 00:20 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Terrible year.. There are not 10 movies from 2005 I've seen that I enjoyed. As far as I can tell, there are seven, and there might be more if I watched enough of what's been listed in this thread, but if you really have to dig to find stuff you like, then it's simply not a good year.

01 Palindromes
02 A History Of Violence
03 The Squid And The Whale
04 Sin City
05 Kung Fu Hustle
06 Broken Flowers
07 I Heart Huckabees

billstevejim, Monday, 27 July 2009 02:42 (fourteen years ago) link

08 The Devil And Daniel Johnston

billstevejim, Monday, 27 July 2009 03:26 (fourteen years ago) link

kidding, that was 2006

billstevejim, Monday, 27 July 2009 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link

08 The Baxter

billstevejim, Monday, 27 July 2009 03:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Something like an '05 top 10:

Kings and Queen
Munich
War of the Worlds
Land of the Dead
The Death of Mr. Lazarescu
The Joy of Life
The Devil's Rejects
Forty Shades of Blue
Cinévardaphoto
Palindromes

sir-mounter (Eric H.), Monday, 27 July 2009 05:14 (fourteen years ago) link


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