National Record Store Day

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I'd love to celebrate RSD. But my nearest 'authorised' shop is 2 hours away, and I don't get to travel specifically to outlying shops anymore. And I am by no means miles away from actual cities either.

So, if there's something I 'really' want, e-bay is my only option.

I don't buy 'silly priced' stuff, but.

Mark G, Monday, 5 March 2012 15:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think that to buy these releases with the explicit aim of selling them on ebay for your own profit is really bad Adam.

Record Store Day is aimed at the good cause of trying to keep smaller independent stores alive and to encourage people to visit and rediscover the ones that are still around

Yeah but I don't see how this is hurting the record store. Someone who otherwise wouldn't bother going in that day may be spending a good chunk of change on records. What I do with something once I've bought it is my own business.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 5 March 2012 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

No, you aren't hurting the store, but you are hurting other fans who would like a fair shot at buying something they really want without paying jacked-up eBay prices. I mean, sure, you can do it, but its kind of a dick move.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 5 March 2012 16:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Whatever one thinks of the releases themselves, Record Store Day is aimed at the good cause of trying to keep smaller independent stores alive and to encourage people to visit and rediscover the ones that are still around. For us it is an incredibly important point in the year and to have it compromised like that can only be a bad thing.

― brain (krakow), Monday, March 5, 2012 3:16 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I totally agree with the above. I love RSD and our store always treats it as a holiday. Anyone intentionally buying up RSD exclusive records for the purpose of reselling on Ebay instead of letting an independent record store customer have it to own it is being shitty.

Kelsey Glamour (Nijoli), Monday, 5 March 2012 16:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean, you are correct that what you do once you make the purchase is up to you. Just know that independent record stores think you are being crappy.

Kelsey Glamour (Nijoli), Monday, 5 March 2012 16:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

and actual music fans think you're scum

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 5 March 2012 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

and so you are basically a jerk.

Kelsey Glamour (Nijoli), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

me or adam?

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

tbrr tho

for headline-grabbing-but-dumb things like the Blur single from a couple of years ago, every aspect of its creation, marketing and distribution was engineered with the understanding that it was gonna be sold for greatly inflated prices to collectors

bearing that in mind I'm not sure that's a demonstrably worse outcome than three Blur superfans in every town getting a copy and never parting with it because they were such superfans

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

i meant people who are buying out RSD stock to specifically resell...

Kelsey Glamour (Nijoli), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

what do you guys think of free flexi-discs instead of exclusive vinyl? basically remove the collector element from it.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

bearing that in mind I'm not sure that's a demonstrably worse outcome than three Blur superfans in every town getting a copy and never parting with it because they were such superfans

How about just pressing enough copies to meet demand? Not every fucking thing needs to be a super-duper collector's item due to forced scarcity.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sorry for doing this, but I just realised there are two ongoing threads for this, so I'm going to cross-post what I posted on the other one:

I'm not really into RSD as a concept, but I will heartily endorse the Kogumaza/Hookworms split 7" that is coming out for it.

― emil.y, Monday, March 5, 2012 5:13 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

emil.y, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

well to use Blur as an example again, 1000 copies of their single got pressed iirc - 'enough copies to meet demand' would be many, many times that in the UK, even considering no-one buys physical singles anymore

this would lose a big part of the hook for the story and it wouldn't get as much media coverage

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

But don't you think first new Blur single in X number of years is a big enough hook in and of itself?

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe, but if you didn't have to break a sweat to get one ppl wouldn't turn up on the day and it would put a spanner in that element

it's a tightrope, 's what I'm sayin'

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

what if they made it free?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

record stores should just make the prices higher on the rsd stuff. or is there a limit to what they can sell them for.

scott seward, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

You should have to show a receipt for a record you bought in the shop earlier in the year, and then they give you the RSD specials for free. Ha!

emil.y, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

one of these days i'll remember to buy some of this stuff. i always forget. the sad thing is maria put our info on their website and now people call me every year - or twice a year now apparently? - and i have to give them the bad news. but other people around have this crap so i point them in the right direction.

scott seward, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

plus, you can put a limit on how much of it people buy, right? i don't know, seems like if people get mad at people who buy too much of it for reselling there must be something they can do. i don't begrudge people who do it. land of opportunity and all that.

scott seward, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

i started pricing my beatles/floyd/zep up a while back. it did start bugging me when one dude would wipe out my beatles section and i knew they were just going online with them. my prices were cheap. now i raise them just enough so that kids who want beatles records don't get scared away but the resellers think twice about buying. i mean i have a whole store filled with cheap stuff they could make money on. i'd much rather have ten normal people buy beatles records - and come back and buy more and bring their friends - then one dude flipping shit. its just a smarter way to make money.

scott seward, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

record stores should just make the prices higher on the rsd stuff. or is there a limit to what they can sell them for.

― scott seward, Monday, March 5, 2012 5:46 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dunno but most of it tends to be higher than average anyway I think

not a RSD thing but close enough - Tom Jones has a single out today on Jack White's label and they did 100 colour 7"s just to sell in my local shop, I guess cos it's the nearest one left to where he grew up - they sold them at £15 a throw and they went in 30 minutes

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Monday, 5 March 2012 18:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

i've always wondered about this, what the barrier was for retailers to sell things online and cut out the flipper. is it a contract thing?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

just our word, really.

i am sure there are store's that do but it just defeats the whole purpose to us. the purpose of the day is to get cool shit in the hands of our customers and we work really hard at making it a special day and getting really especially great stock for that day. we think of it as a customer appreciation day.

Kelsey Glamour (Nijoli), Monday, 5 March 2012 18:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

A friend who owns a record store thinks there should be some way of giving preferential treatment to regulars ahead of the ebay vultures. I know the point is to bring in new customers but he says that every year a bunch of people swoop on the limited vinyl on RSD and are never seen again.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Monday, 5 March 2012 18:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

i didn't just mean the record day stuff but for general backstock as well.
also, are you also not allowed to reserve copies for regulars?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

it wouldn't really truly BE a record store day without collector scum though, right? though i like the idea of creating a myth that record collecting is a sunny happy place where everyone works together hand in hand. with free food! i'm all for it.

scott seward, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well, you can't really reserve a copy of anything because you have no idea what you are getting out of your order.
It is like a lottery system so no store gets better stock than another.

Kelsey Glamour (Nijoli), Monday, 5 March 2012 18:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't want record stores to die, I love them but RSD has evolved into something ridiculous. I remember the first year, was pretty relaxed (I lived in the bay area at the time), went to a few shops they had some good specials and exclusives and free pizza or whatever. Nice vibe. The next year I moved to NY and things took off a little bit more, remember waiting in line and people snapping stuff up and the vibe was pure collector scum. Other Music was an hour wait by midday and Generation records in the Village just had you in a massive queue that snaked around the store then you got to the counter and picked your exclusives off of a pre-printed list where they crossed out out-of-stock items. It's basically turned into a collector scum distribution system and the most disheartening part is that many of the most coveted exclusives seem to be more and more major label stuff. Last year there were ~500 official exclusives, gimme a break. Would love for a store owner/clerk to be candid about how this affects their business positively.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 5 March 2012 18:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

it really does affect businesses positively. people end up selling a ton of other stuff. for a lot of people its the best day of the year by far.

scott seward, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Squackett (Chris Squire of Yes and Steve Hackett of Genesis) Sea of Smiles (single edit) b/w Perfect Love Song 7" (Numbered, 2000 copies)
• Andrew Bird The Crown Salesman (Alpha Consumer cover) b/w So Much Wine (Handsome Family cover) 7”
• Bonnie 'Prince' Billy 7" Hummingbird (Leon Russell cover) b/w Tribulations (Estil Ball cover) and Becuase of Your Eyes (Exclusive solo version of this Merle Haggard song)
• Tangerine Dream Ultima Thule 7” (1000 copies, each numbered)
• Flogging Molly Drunken Lullabies (new mix) b/w A Prayer for Me in Silence (Acoustic) RED VINYL 7"

scott seward, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

majorly rare squackett tracks, dude.

scott seward, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Smugglers Way is Domino and Ribbon’s first ever limited edition zine featuring FIVE individual, multi-colored flexi discs of EXCLUSIVE, UNRELEASED songs from Dirty Projectors, Real Estate, Cass McCombs, John Maus, and Villagers. Smugglers Way will be sold exclusively at indie retail for Record Store Day, April 21st 2012.

The zine comprises 24 pages of original art and prose from Domino and Ribbon artists. Highlights include a short story penned by James Yorkston; a long form poem by Laura Marling; short form pieces by Alex Bleeker (Real Estate), Ade Blackburn (Clinic), and Tom Fleming (Wild Beasts); illustrations from Alison Mosshart (The Kills), Andrea Estella (Twin Sister), Conor O’Brien (Villagers) and Jon Hopkins; photography from Jana Hunter (Lower Dens), and an original arranged score of music by Owen Pallett. Bjorn Copeland of Black Dice designed the cover and Rob Carmichael at SEEN is responsible for the art direction and layout.

Flexi Disc Tracklist

Dirty Projectors – “You Against The Larger World”
Real Estate – “In My Car”
Cass McCombs – “Teachers”
John Maus – “No Title (Molly)
Villagers – “Shards”

scott seward, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

• Tangerine Dream Ultima Thule 7” (1000 copies, each numbered)

ahhh fuck i want that

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dale Earnhardt Jr. Jr. will be releasing a special Detroit-themed 12" for Record Store Day. The EP will feature "We Almost Lost Detroit," a Gil Scott-Heron cover that also appears on their full length debut It's A Corporate World, as well as two covers of songs by fellow Detroit artists Madonna and Sixto Rodriguez and three remixes by Detroit-based artists. The 12" is a limited pressing of 2k standard black vinyl units and will be available for $16.98 exclusively on Record Store Day on 4/21.

We Almost Lost Detroit EP (Record Store Day exclusive 12")

Side A

We Almost Lost Detroit (album version)
Like A Prayer (Madonna cover)
I Think Of You (Sixto Rodriguez cover)

Side B

We Almost Lost Detroit (Stepdad remix)
Morning Thought (Phantasmagoria remix)
Simple Girl (Chuck Daniels remix)

scott seward, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ok but I also think of it as, say, your casual customer who isn't gonna come in every weekend. They probably "build up" to RSD and spending a lot of money, then they won't come back for months and months. So, yes, it's gonna be your biggest day but what is it like 2 or 3 months down the road? Is that guy that only comes in a few times a year and just spent $300 in April gonna be coming back? I also think about the exclusive/limited releases that no one wants, just sitting in cut-out bins after six months.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Flaming Lips with Heady Fwends

A1 2012 (You Must Be Upgraded) with Ke$ha
A2 Ashes in the Air with Bon Iver
A3 Helping the Retarded to Find God with Edward Sharpe
A4 Children of the Moon with Tame Impala

B1 The Supermoon Made Me Want to Pee with Prefuse 73
B2 It's Not My Trip (Hippy Goes Out with Violent S&M Vampire Gal) with Jim James
B3 You, Man? Human? with Nick Cave

C1 I'm Working at NASA on Acid with Lightning Bolt
C2 Do It! with Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band
C3 Is David Bowie Dying? with Neon Indian

D1 The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face with Erykah Badu
D2 Thunder Drops with New Fumes
D3 I Don't Want You to Die with Chris Martin

Limited to 10,000-20,000 copies, pressed on random mixed psychedelic vinyl.

scott seward, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

To commemorate Record Store Day, Disturbed will be releasing their definitive vinyl box set edition, The Collection on 4/21 (Record Store Day), but you can pre-order it now.

A five album, six disc offering of the band's complete studio album discography featuring:
The Sickness - 2000
Believe - 2002
Ten Thousand Fists - 2005
Indestructible - 2008
Asylum released in 2010.

Release Date: 4.21.2012

For this box set each album has been carefully mastered for The Collection and pressed on 140 gram vinyl for the very best in audio quality. Each album has been meticulously showcased in a stunning art presentation that is unique and exclusive to this release.

Price is $129.98

scott seward, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't think black friday is a good idea for retailers either but it's apparently worth it. financially anyway.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

not totally sure what MFB is driving at here

obv it would be preferable if $300 RSD man spread his purchases out more evenly across the year but no-one can figure a way to get him to do that at this stage in the game, so this is what they've come up with in the meantime

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just thinking of theoretical $300 RSD man coming in 4 - 5 times a year instead of feeling he has "done his work" on RSD. Each visit is a time to browse the used new arrivals, get hipped to something he didn't know, etc. Like RSD provides the mental satisfaction of "I supported my local record store" when it's really just a one-off big purchase of, like, a Wilco boxset or w/e. I just don't think that RSD, in the form that I have experienced, really supports my idea of the value of a neighborhood record store.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

that Disturbed one is priceless in every sense

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Each turd has been carefully polished, varnished and encased in a deluxe presentation box which also includes a turd-shaped USB flash drive and limited, numbered art prints depicting the turd from various angles.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Monday, 5 March 2012 20:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

OOOOH WAH-AH-AH-AH

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Monday, 5 March 2012 21:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

I want the Mclusky Do Dallas vinyl. That's the only thing I need on RSD.

van smack, Monday, 5 March 2012 21:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well the Flaming Lips one I'm definitely keeping for myself.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 5 March 2012 22:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that Flaming Lips things looks awesome, but I refuse to even get my hopes up for it.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 5 March 2012 23:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

want those lips, plan to stand in line for hours and will buy all available copies within moments of the opening bell. will then sell them to all ilxors for fifty hundred dollars cheap rare OOP L@@K!

meticulously showcased in a stunning art presentation (contenderizer), Monday, 5 March 2012 23:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

is there the full list of stuff online yet?

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 March 2012 23:43 (2 years ago) Permalink


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