2012 republican presidential nominee IV: NEEDS MORE BOOING

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As as fat-free sugarless substitute for Beltway wit he's ok if you ignore his history about being wrong about everything in the last thirty years except Ross Perot and Afghanistan. The HuffPost among others this afternoon revived the notion that Will is the Smart, Adult Conservative thanks to this remark, without qualification. It's worth bringing up because it's as loony a notion as taking Santorum seriously.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 03:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

as = a

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 03:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm just saying that it's okay to credit him with being right about this one thing, and in a way that I thought was quite funny, without implying that you think he's a genius. He says stuff on TV. Sometimes he's good.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 03:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

George Will says more than enough facepalmingly stupid things that I am no longer decieved by the fact that he employs a larger vocabulary and longer sentences than the average shill for Republican foolishness. He may have a fancy education, but he still talks shit most of the time.

Aimless, Monday, 5 March 2012 04:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like Rick Nielsen too. I guess bow ties have a fundamentally overpowering allure for me.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 04:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe some of these paulies will have a reverse-david horowitz and become raging left-wing radicals.

they would have to start giving a shit about other people which is something we can pray for i guess

blank, Monday, 5 March 2012 04:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

George Will and Newt Gingrich are proof that you can get people to think you're smart through the sheer force of persona.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 5 March 2012 04:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

The right audience doesn't hurt either.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 5 March 2012 04:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like Rick Nielsen too. I guess bow ties have a fundamentally overpowering allure for me.

― clemenza, Sunday, March 4, 2012 8:19 PM Bookmark

Tucker Carlson.

marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Monday, 5 March 2012 05:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Louis Farrakhan

Aimless, Monday, 5 March 2012 05:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Pee-Wee Herman:

Me, Halloween 1998:

What can I say? Our little group has always been, and always will until the end.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 11:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Frum lets'er rip.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Frum and Will are saying almost exactly the same thing. Why is Will worthy of derision, while Frum is "letting it rip"?

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Because one is George Will and the other is David Frum

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Seventh Inning Stretch of Evil.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like David Frum fine--he's been great the last couple of years--but I don't get that. If they're making the same point, and Will's doing it in a way that's funny, then kudos to both.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

imo the worst part is the rest of the abc panel giggling at the 'salad fork' joke.

goole, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rush attempts to explain himself.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Let's'er rip" is one of my oft-used phrases for links, used sarcastically or sincerely.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Flagpost Sitta (Phil D.), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

They thought it was funny, so they laughed. I laughed too. It was a good line. I wasn't thinking about anything Will might have written about Walter Mondale in 1984.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

imo the worst part is the rest of the abc panel giggling at the 'salad fork' joke.

and reinforced the impression that the Beltway punditocracy is a merit-based circle jerk (educated people, see, know the difference between forks).

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Those two words were inappropriate, uncalled for, and actually distracted from the point I was trying to make

oh fuck you

be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

If you find Will funny, as I do sometimes, I think that's part and parcel of why you find him funny--his snobbish and carefully calculated detachment from the world. I just don't see it as anything worth getting upset about.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I admit: I own two of his collections.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

by the way, if you think I'm mocking you for finding Will's remark funny, that's not at all my intention. He's made me laugh too. I used his remark as an excuse to write about how repugnant Will is generally.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 18:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm going to the mat for him. He's a great man, and he should be added to Mount Rushmore.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh god 'legal insurrection'

goole, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh god #IAmAndrewBreitbart and #RallyForRush

Ham House showdown (Dan Peterson), Monday, 5 March 2012 18:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

If Frum truly believes that Limbaugh's three-day outburst was "the bottom of the barrel of shock talk", then either he has an exalted idea of human self- restraint or else no idea of the depths to which humans are willing to descend .

Aimless, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

"...of shock talk"

goole, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

For bottom of the barrel commentary, go for this instead. All the man's tics on display: the equivocation, condescension.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2012 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rush: "Only the leftists try to use extortion, pressure, threats to silence opposing voices…."

Morning becomes apopleptic (Michael White), Monday, 5 March 2012 18:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Goldberg reminds me of that Lincoln quote about packing the most words into the fewest ideas.

Morning becomes apopleptic (Michael White), Monday, 5 March 2012 18:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Chris Wallace on Fox showed Santorum the video clip of Obama making the case for all kinds of further education and training, not just 4 year colleges...

Santorum acknowledged that he might have made a mistake.

"Look, maybe I've read some comments where at least it was characterized that the president said we should go to four-year colleges," he said. "If I was in error, you said you haven't found that, I certainly read that… if it was an error, I agree with the president that we should have options for a variety of training."

Santorum's defensive answers to Wallace re Catholicism and birth control, and his lack of charity donations are uh, entertaining as well

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/04/rick-santorum-fix-news-birth-control_n_1319393.html

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Flagpost Sitta (Phil D.), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^ Real life LOL!

Ham House showdown (Dan Peterson), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's really great

iatee, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

omg

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

cheap and funny

kind of a weird filename tho

goole, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

That cover's great...up there with the secret lives of Obama/Michelle cover from 2008.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

jonathan bernstein thinks we should lock this thread

http://plainblogaboutpolitics.blogspot.com/2012/03/endorsements-party-actors-and-2012.html

It sure seems to me that events to date have been all about Mitt Romney wrapping up a very open nomination quickly and fairly easily. Not as easily as George W. Bush did in 2000 (when he had a much better record of endorsements). But to me, Romney's nomination is quite comparable to the nominations of Kerry in 2004, Dole in 1996, and Dukakis in 1988, and a lot more certain a lot earlier than that of McCain last time around. That seems to very much fit a model in which party actors compete and coordinate on nominations and voters in primaries and caucuses ratify it, rather than a model in which candidates compete in a weak party environment and voters in primaries and caucuses determine the nomination. Yes, there's been momentum and press effects and other stuff that has produced a few oddball primary and caucus results, but none of that has really, as far as I can see, done as much to shape the contest as has decisions by party actors. In particular, the party's apparent lack of interest in Rick Santorum, seen through a lack of high-profile endorsements after Iowa and again after Colorado and Minnesota, appear to have been far more predictive than Santorum's strong showing in those states.

No one believes -- and I certainly don't believe -- that a "party decides" view of the nomination process rules out stray candidates winning the occasional primary or caucus. What matters is the nomination. And it sure looks to me as if the nomination has been over for a long time, exactly as those of us who push this view would have expected given most indications of party actor support.

goole, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Initiate lockdown.

clemenza, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Romney's 2009 USA Today op-ed in which he encouraged Obama to pass something very much like the individual mandate that he now disowns:

Our experience also demonstrates that getting every citizen insured doesn't have to break the bank. First, we established incentives for those who were uninsured to buy insurance. Using tax penalties, as we did, or tax credits, as others have proposed, encourages "free riders" to take responsibility for themselves rather than pass their medical costs on to others. This doesn't cost the government a single dollar.

http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20090730/column30_st.art.htm

o. nate, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

it makes absolutely no sense to compare this to kerry 2004. there's a big difference between 'everybody else lost' and 'romney won' even though the end result is the same.

iatee, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

I want to frame that New Yorker cover.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Best cover since the Blitt terrorist fistbump.

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

But Norquist has forgiven Romney for the 2009 "mandate" op-ed:

Anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist said Monday that Mitt Romney made a "mistake" in advocating the individual mandate as part of the president's healthcare reform law, but that he was encouraged that the Republican front-runner had shifted "in favor of liberty" and now opposes the requirement.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/214077-norquist-romney-made-a-mistake-in-pushing-individual-mandate

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

xps: i think the point is to put this primary contest well within recent historical norms, and mark out the 08 republican primary as a real outlier

goole, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

all polling showing romneys gonna deliver the knockout punch 2moro :/

lag∞n, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

all Republicans rehearse victimhood. Santorum has been a martyr for fifteen years.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Santorum's particular flavor is different than Romney's, tho.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

gee rush your headline much

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-04-10/santorum-suspending-bid-for-republican-nomination-person-says

― goole, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:19 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha i think this is a weird bloomberg style book quirk http://search1.bloomberg.com/search/?content_type=all&page=1&q=%22person%20says%22

max, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol that's so weird

goole, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

What a quitter. What would he have done if he were president and his daughter was ill? Quit that, too?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seriously disappointed they could not be bothered to stage a reunion of Santorum.jpg, a la the Get Back cover.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

dc otm

pplains, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just watched that movie....

Moodles, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

netflix amirite

pplains, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

yep

Moodles, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

God, I think this motif needs its own thread.

pplains, Monday, 16 April 2012 16:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

pplains has turned this into the 2008 Hillary: Needs More Kahlua thread...which is a lot more interesting than what's happening with that other lot.

clemenza, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

In more mundane news Romney filed for an extension on doing his taxes, and there is older video of Romney saying poor Moms should experience the dignity of work (outside the home) if they want to get government benefits

curmudgeon, Monday, 16 April 2012 18:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

new thread dudes

iatee, Monday, 16 April 2012 18:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

LOCK

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

No need for Part Five, the Mittening, right? This just melds into the GE thread?

clemenza, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yup.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:31 (2 years ago) Permalink


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