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you just gotta vibe to adorn, dude

flagp∞st (dayo), Monday, 5 March 2012 00:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

i vibe to it, but i also vibe to his whole album.

at this point he's only got a fairly small number of songs out that are all good to great and none too similar to each other. so "adorn" is unique but of a piece of that body of work just as "sure thing" is. its brevity is the only thing i see as any kind of departure.

some dude, Monday, 5 March 2012 01:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

I need to check out this ep. Thanks

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 March 2012 15:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

So I found this 2005 12-inch in a dollar bin a year and a half ago, and I bought it on the off chance it was the same Miguel. Turns out it was. The song is very much a product of its time.

Evan R, Monday, 5 March 2012 15:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

just went on Spotify to see if they had the new EP, they don't, but they do have a single he apparently released in 2011 called "Strawberry Amazing," which i had never heard anything about before, pretty good, very lo-fi Prince

something i noticed on the Art Dealer Chic liner notes -- Miguel self-produced the whole thing (except for one co-production from Fisticuffs, who did "Quickie" and "Girls Like You"). afaik Miguel didn't really do any of the production on the first album, so it looks like he's really stepping up and getting more involved in that side of things.

some dude, Monday, 5 March 2012 15:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Strawberry Amazing" was on his 2008's Mischief, too, and he co-produced that entire mixtape with Fisticuffs. That mixtape was super lo-fi; it sounds like he recorded it with a Casio and a boombox, but you can definitely hear a lot of echoes of the new EP in it.

Evan R, Monday, 5 March 2012 16:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

i don't really feel like the Jive album sanded off the edges of that aesthetic much at all, give or take a few of the more established producers' contributions

some dude, Monday, 5 March 2012 16:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I agree. When I first heard the Jive album, I was actually surprised by how low-budget it sounded at times, especially the Fisticuffs productions. Because it came out so quietly at the time (this was before "Sure Thing" had any legs) I was wondering if Jive had cut corners and were just trying to bury the album. It definitely took a few listens for some of the more muffled production to make sense.

Evan R, Monday, 5 March 2012 16:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

I kind of think of that hazy, reverbed vibe as the album's distinguishing characteristic. Gives it a very warm, intimate feel. Although a lot of that is down to Miguel himself, too.

marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

like Strawberry Amazing but always hear a little Lenny Kravitz :/

bnw, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 04:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

i don't think anything on the EP touches "adorn" but that's the single of the year so far, so no biggie

― J0rdan S., Sunday, March 4, 2012 6:24 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

'adorn' is great but the single of the year so far is obv 'climax'

flagp∞st (dayo), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Climax" hasn't really hit me yet. I'm an "Adorn" partisan.

marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

'adorn' is great but the single of the year so far is obv 'climax'

wanna say "dayo otm", but i guess i got something to listen to when i get home

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

My ex is friends w his little brother lol. Apparently he sings too tho not professionally afaik

I like miguel. Sure thing was never my thing but he has a great voice and feels like a genuine original

D-40, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think EZsnappin nailed it on tumblr where he said "Adorn" sounds like early-80s Marvin. The greater trick though, is that he achieves that vibe without any air of tribute or homage.

marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

ban dayo

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

"adorn" is so killing me atm

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

i agree with dayo that "climax" is better than "adorn"

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 10:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Adorn" makes me think of Prince fwiw

D-40, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 11:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

it makes me think of Prince less than 80% of his material but he definitely wrote it in part because he couldn't write another song called "Adore"

some dude, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 11:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

nbd, just a cross between marvin gaye & prince

john-claude van donne (schlump), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 12:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

vol 2, tomorrow

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

my neighbors always know when I come home because I bump adorn 4 times

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

^____^

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

haha i d/led it from miguel's site which requires you to fill out a non-optional "Hopes and Dreams" box to download lololol smh

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think I like "Arch n Point" even more than "Adorn"! This is sooooooooooo good... even on my shitty laptop speakers it just sounds fantastic

Evan R, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 03:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Broads" is a tad wacky

Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah, it's just terrible. Like, delete-from-iTunes bad.

Evan R, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

god damn "arch n point"

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah I'm unchecking 'broads'

dayo, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

I love how fucking LOUD "Arch n Point" is... that guitar!

Evan R, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

wow, "...all" might be better?

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

"arch n point" could def be a trey songz album track, but like 10x better

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

man, "...all" is almost threatening to be organ house

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

this shit bangs

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah, i think "...all" might be my favorite from this one

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

Didn't realize we had a Miguel thread! Although in retrospect, duh.

Vol. 2 > Vol. 1 I think, although Adorn >>>> all the other tracks from the project.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

naw, i think (although my opinion on this might change) "gravity" > any of the tracks on vol 2 also

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah listened to volume 2 today and nothing stuck with me at all really, kinda disappointed

but then went back and listened to vol 1, all i want is you, and mischief, so all is good. i seriously slept on all i want is you for so long

recent thug (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

i kinda wonder how many people on this thread are still sleeping on all i want is you

some dude, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

did you ever come around on the title track?

recent thug (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

I didn't know about Mischief, d/ling that now.

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah i came around on the title track, although the salaam remi stuff on the album is still generally my least favorite

some dude, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

mischeif is not mindblowing or anything, miguel's voice is obviosly the main draw but the production's not great and the songwriting isn't nearly as strong as his recent work

recent thug (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh word

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

There are small, scattered moments on Mischief where everything clicks and its like, "oh right, I love this guy." I've gotten a ton of writing done to that mixtape over the last couple of years; it's good background music that still kind of jams

Evan R, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

I just still can't believe that he did the hooks on that Blu & Exile album from back in 2007.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

saying "gravity" is the best thing off these tapes is clinically insane

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

you are underrating "gravity", which is amazing, but i don't think anyone said that

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 22:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

It gives me strong Purple Rain vibes tbh but I don't think you need to strain too hard for 90s rock echoes on a song with LENNY KRAVITZ on it.

The album in general feels more 80s than 90s to me, there's some big anthemic pop-rock sound that the faster, more top-down songs remind me of a bit, it's not Don Henley but it's something not far off.

NWA makes a really good companion to #HoodLove by Jazmine Sullivan btw. The whole stretch from Coffee through to Face The Sun is virtually flawless. The weather is helping.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 July 2015 07:46 (2 days ago) Permalink

yeah it's an amazing sticky summer evening album

is "the valley" beat really not a sample? it sounds so familiar but maybe it's just Generic Dubstep Growl

lex pretend, Friday, 3 July 2015 08:54 (2 days ago) Permalink

Album reminds me of Iggy Pop's "Candy".

Tim F, Friday, 3 July 2015 09:03 (2 days ago) Permalink

It gives me strong Purple Rain vibes tbh but I don't think you need to strain too hard for 90s rock echoes on a song with LENNY KRAVITZ on it.

well especially when he starts literally singing "purple rain", perfect interpolation at perfect moment

lex pretend, Friday, 3 July 2015 09:07 (2 days ago) Permalink

enjoying this record a lot

Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Friday, 3 July 2015 12:59 (2 days ago) Permalink

this feels like more of an 'album' than the other two i love it so much fuiud

, Friday, 3 July 2015 13:59 (2 days ago) Permalink

not here to hate on the debut but it was v much "solid collection of songs overshadowed by the 10/10 classic single" where the next two have been incredible and fully realised pieces of work

thinking about the contrast between this and KD, KD's overall vibe was sort of floating, drifting, on cloud nine emotionally and in this bubble of romance; wildheart is all dirt and grit and roughness and stuff that pushes you rather than makes you swoon

lex pretend, Friday, 3 July 2015 15:00 (2 days ago) Permalink

"coffee" in fact feels like the outlier in this respect (an amazing outlier tho)

lex pretend, Friday, 3 July 2015 15:00 (2 days ago) Permalink

yep

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 July 2015 15:01 (2 days ago) Permalink

If Kaleidoscope Dream was Oracle then Wildheart is Odessey.

geoffreyess, Friday, 3 July 2015 15:11 (2 days ago) Permalink

Percussion on damned is wow

, Friday, 3 July 2015 15:11 (2 days ago) Permalink

maybe I'm going overboard with 90s-hunting but the second half of "Face the Sun" gives me strong "Where Is My Mind" vibes

The whole album is Sebadoh (with sex)!

pophatte (admrl), Friday, 3 July 2015 15:12 (2 days ago) Permalink

Miguel made the same song w leaves and face the sun and put them one right after the other and it's still great and amazing

, Friday, 3 July 2015 15:16 (2 days ago) Permalink

Re: the 90s, the guitars on "A Beautiful Exit" kind of sound like "Souvlaki Space Station" rewritten to soundtrack the opening of Altman's "Short Cuts" or better yet Bigelow's "Strange Days."

geoffreyess, Friday, 3 July 2015 18:20 (2 days ago) Permalink

And "the valley" reminds of "Closer" mainly in the way that I can imagine having seen the real cool video with the "fuck" bleeped out and then getting the album home and hearing it uncensored for the first time. Like, I can imagine it so vividly, it's a mere technicality it didn't actually happen that way.

geoffreyess, Friday, 3 July 2015 18:23 (2 days ago) Permalink

Haha

Tim F, Friday, 3 July 2015 21:39 (2 days ago) Permalink

"Waves" sounds like "Electric Feel".

The Reverend, Saturday, 4 July 2015 08:58 (Yesterday) Permalink

The songwriting on All I Want Is You is pretty underrated compared to KD but I feel like he just took this big jump forward as a singer (both his voice and his phrasing) between the first and second albums. I listened to Sure Thing again today and it's amazing, but when he sings "just put your pretty little hand in mine" he still has that pinched, slightly nasal thing you hear with lesser R&B singers. Fast forward to Adorn and he really SINGS those high notes, like his throat is wide open, his technique is way better.

It's worth remembering that "Sure Thing" was recorded in like 2007 or so. (It's was the song on his demo that got him signed, then his label sat on him for a couple years.) Something like "Teach Me" is a lot closer to his current phrasing.

The Reverend, Saturday, 4 July 2015 09:27 (Yesterday) Permalink

i learned that he was originally signed as a songwriter more or less and "sure thing" was specifically earmarked for usher

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 July 2015 15:46 (Yesterday) Permalink

pretty obsessed with "Leaves"-> "Face the Sun"

I am a dummy on "production" but these two songs do this thing where they build up layer by layer steadily over the song, until the climax is a wall of sound. though if you're listening carefully the sound is good enough to hear the different layers individually. like you're listening to a pyramid, a three dimensional object, being built. this is particularly true of "Face the Sun". I don't know enough to say what lineage that sound has: it's very complex, layers of counterpoint building, more and more tracks coming in. I dunno, maybe I think of like Be Here Now? Miguel gets pretty shouty on these songs, well and elsewhere on the album. maybe it's a kinda cokey sound? this is no shade: I am just listening to those two on repeat, with "Waves" once in a while, which is a more linear groove. I dunno, I'm hearing something that's probably really easy for the rest of you to classify etc but for me it's pretty striking.

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 4 July 2015 20:13 (Yesterday) Permalink

"Waves" sounds like "Electric Feel".

I've been thinking this too.

MikoMcha, Sunday, 5 July 2015 06:25 (17 hours ago) Permalink

'electric feel' reminds me of los angeles hotel lobbies, so the connection makes sense

maura, Sunday, 5 July 2015 07:06 (16 hours ago) Permalink

i could wipe you down right now baby
let me ride that wave right now baby

, Sunday, 5 July 2015 12:38 (10 hours ago) Permalink


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