This is off-topic but since this is the US politics thread I thought it was somewhat relevant. While currently the focus is on 'social' issues, the claim that rhetoric is at an all-time low doesn't quite stand up in historical context.
The post-Revolutionary War debt argument led by George Hamilton in the late 1780s was unpopular among southern states, and nearly caused Virginia to secede from the union. Unfair taxes was the big issue, and Senator George Mason of Virginia declared that Hamilton had,
done us more injury than Great Britain & all her fleets and armies."
Really brings to mind the economic terrorism/economic slavery rhetoric of the past few years.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, that quote's from p. 51 of "The Federalist Era 1789-1801" by John C. Miller.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
http://becksmithhollywood.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/george-hamilton.jpg
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
rhetoric is always at an all time low what you have now is a realignment of the parties along ideological lines and an increased willingness to use procedural tactics to gum up the legislative process
― lag∞n, Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
Ugh Lol. I watched The Roast of David Hasslehoff last night, got George on my mind.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
― pplains, Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
today's Romney gaffe
― be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
hes improving on his flip flop turn around time, working really hard, impressive stuff
― lag∞n, Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
it is really, really hard to imagine this guy winning an election
― iatee, Thursday, 1 March 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
GLOBAL THERMONUCLEAR WAR. SHALL WE PLAY A GAME? _
YES _
VERY WELL _
WAIT, I MISUNDERSTOOD THE QU--------
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
Seth MacFarlane @SethMacFarlane Reply Retweet Favorite · OpenMitt Romney is the one non-handicapped guy competing in the Special Olympics, and he’s just barely winning.
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Mitt Romney is the one non-handicapped guy competing in the Special Olympics, and he’s just barely winning.
― Flagpost Sitta (Phil D.), Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks for reminding me to ignore everything Seth MacFarlane says
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
Santorum and his never ending lulz
“[Karen] worked as a nurse, but after we got married, she decided to walk away, yet didn’t quit working. She was a mother, and also wrote two books,” Santorum said, in what also seemed to be an appeal to female voters.He spent most of his speech repeating the themes he does on the stump, including his mention of the Declaration of Independence, but this evening there was a twist on that, too.“The men and women who signed that declaration wrote the final phrase, ‘We pledge to each other our lives, our fortune, and our sacred honor,” Santorum said.There were no women who signed the Declaration of Independence.
He spent most of his speech repeating the themes he does on the stump, including his mention of the Declaration of Independence, but this evening there was a twist on that, too.
“The men and women who signed that declaration wrote the final phrase, ‘We pledge to each other our lives, our fortune, and our sacred honor,” Santorum said.
There were no women who signed the Declaration of Independence.
― Flagpost Sitta (Phil D.), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
LOL
― be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 1 March 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
One thing that happens when you are a presidential candidate is that words become increasingly meaningless and all that you retain is the correct manner of their delivery. This is probably a simple case of flatlined brain waves cooupled with an open mouth. What matters more is when he says what he means and it makes your jaw drop..
― Aimless, Thursday, 1 March 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
*Nelson laugh*
http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/santorum-loses-his-cool-during-interview-with-cinc
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 March 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
frank shaeffer quote in that last kingfish quote is amazing, bookmarked the page it came from― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, March 1, 2012 10:45 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, March 1, 2012 10:45 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
His memoir is pretty remarkable & I recommend it highly: Crazy for God: How I Grew Up as One of the Elect, Helped Found the Religious Right, and Lived to Take All (or Almost All) of It Back
― Jurgis Rudkus // Dick Butkus (Pillbox), Thursday, 1 March 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/3/1/13/enhanced-buzz-14752-1330625470-109.jpg http://www.nndb.com/people/193/000024121/jason-lee.jpg
― pplains, Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
http://semantink.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/fred_obannion.jpg
― Jurgis Rudkus // Dick Butkus (Pillbox), Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
Casey from last season's American Idol:
http://theashleysrealityroundup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/CaseyAbrams4.jpg
― Ham House showdown (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 1 March 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
here's a more recent book of Schaeffer's that I really need to read, assuming it doesn't depress me too much:
Sex, Mom, and God: How the Bible's Strange Take on Sex Led to Crazy Politics--and How I Learned to Love Women (and Jesus) Anyway
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Thursday, 1 March 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
Another good piece about Santorum & the religious right's fixation on education:
http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2012/feb/29/rick-santorum-arrested-development/
― o. nate, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
we're at 4.6K posts on this this thread, time for a new one yet?
can we call it: "2012 republican presidential nominee IV: literally pissing on breetbort's grave"?
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Friday, 2 March 2012 06:54 (twelve years ago) link
ehh I am not for that
― iatee, Friday, 2 March 2012 06:55 (twelve years ago) link
but feel free to make it w/ another title
"literally shitting on breetbort's grave"?
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Friday, 2 March 2012 06:56 (twelve years ago) link
I don't like making fun of dead people because it reminds me of my own mortality
― iatee, Friday, 2 March 2012 06:58 (twelve years ago) link
literally contemplating iatees inevitable grave
― lag∞n, Friday, 2 March 2012 07:01 (twelve years ago) link
haha
― iatee, Friday, 2 March 2012 07:02 (twelve years ago) link
^ a nervous laugh if ever i've heard one
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 2 March 2012 07:45 (twelve years ago) link
NEEDS MORE BOOING
― pplains, Friday, 2 March 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
2012 Republican Presidential Nominee III: The Owls Are Not What They Seem (But the Trees Are Just the Right Height)
― clemenza, Friday, 2 March 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago) link
i am in favor of NEEDS MORE BOOING
― goole, Friday, 2 March 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
agree
― catbus otm (gbx), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l0sai4UHkx1qb9ngzo1_400.jpg
Bob is not happy, but fire up "Needs More Booing."
― clemenza, Friday, 2 March 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
i miss your tweets onscreen
― max, Friday, 2 March 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
I was pumping gas last night and a guy at an adjacent pump asked me "so who ya voting for? newt?" I was kind of dumbstruck as to why anyone would ask a complete stranger who they're voting for in the GOP primaries.
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
this guy might have been Newt in a wig fwiw
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
"He's the only 'Newt Gingrich' on the ballot!"
― pplains, Friday, 2 March 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link
Kid Rock, the Megadeth guy, Mitt's visceral appeal to the rock world deepens. (Contra Josh Marshall, my guess is that the net harm/good fallout from the controversial Nugent endorsement will be minimal.) Still pending: Wishbone Ash.
― clemenza, Friday, 2 March 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
2012 republican presidential nominee IV: NEEDS MORE BOOING
there we go
― iatee, Friday, 2 March 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link