Rolling 'this is sexist' thread

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mooncup over my hammy

I haven't read this thread yet but are you all talking about vid games because of the whole streetfighter controversy

Kind of laughing at StarCraft 2 as a comparative point of positivity, in that there are still a bunch of morons who think launching into sexuality-based insults or racial slurs at the beginning of a game is funny. Not all that many, but it happens.

― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:16 AM (5 hours ago)

sorry to derail, but i just have to come back to this real quick. SC2 is light-years ahead of every other gaming community that i've had any experience with (which admittedly is mostly only through brief encounters and friends who have been into other games.) yes, there are still plenty of morons on battle.net, of course, but as far as the dominant culture of the game goes, it is almost mind-boggling how much better the SC2 community is--politeness is ingrained into the standard interactions between players ("glhf", "gg"), and while its not always practiced, it is really surprising how often it is. there has been major blowback from the community every single time someone in the spotlight has made any kind of racist or misogynistic remark, and overall the SC2 community is very self-conscious about how they come across to outsiders and they're very self-aware of the general perception of gaming communities. there's this whole idea that has taken root within SC2 that they are the ones that can really grow "eSports" by being more mature, presentable, professional, etc. i think this is largely due to the intense strategic difficulty of the game keeping the bar for entry somewhat high combined with the influence of certain community figures.

starcraft is actually brought up in this srticle

http://kotaku.com/5889066/competitive-gamers-inflammatory-comments-spark-sexism-debate

This is a community that's, you know, 15 or 20 years old, and the sexual harassment is part of a culture, and if you remove that from the fighting game community, it's not the fighting game community—it's StarCraft. There's nothing wrong with StarCraft if you enjoy it, and there's nothing wrong with anything about eSports, but why would you want just one flavor of ice cream, you know? There's eSports for people who like eSports, and there's fighting games for people who like spicy food and like to have fun. There's no reason to turn them into the same thing, you know?

Later, when asked about whether shouting "Rape that bitch!" at a match is acceptable behavior, Bakhtanians replied, "Look, man. What is unacceptable about that? There's nothing unacceptable about that. These are people, we're in America, man, this isn't North Korea. We can say what we want. People get emotional."

It's called "diva cup" now? What happened to "mooncup"?

huh interesting

what is glhf?

xp

btw I thought up mooncup over my hammy yesterday thank you for letting me post it

good luck have fun

America!

I don't think I've ever heard "diva cup" used in Finland (seriously, what does it have to do with divas?), everyone I know says "mooncup" or plain ol' "menstruation cup".

think diva cup is a brand

the branding being something like "you are embracing your powerful womanhood by menstruating into a cup"

let's all agree: blood cup

Later, when asked about whether shouting "Rape that bitch!" at a match is acceptable behavior, Bakhtanians replied, "Look, man. What is unacceptable about that? There's nothing unacceptable about that. These are people, we're in America, man, this isn't North Korea. We can say what we want. People get emotional."

this is the part that just blew my mind. dude needs such a huge punch in the balls. you can have a tough, aggressive, rough-and-tumble gaming culture without insisting on the necessity of constant sexual and racial harassment.

star craft: blood cup war

i mean, wtf? does capcom employ this guy?

lol, no

he's their director of HR

plus okay, now that you guys mention it, i do remember earlier discussions of the "mooncup". now i have to learn a new something new today.

gotta love the "free speech means i can be an abusive asshole" line of reasoning, it may be old but man its super effective at soothing the irritation of acknowledging that other people exist

Oh, most certainly, karl. I was just making the point that even in a community that great, there are still some bizarre outliers. They're not the ones who are doing well, but there's still the perception from some idiots that saying noxious bullshit is OK in online gaming.

It's interesting that SC2 is also one of the few games where people communicate in a way that is later replayable. I think fps gamers, if they're communicating, tend to use voice communication, as do fighting game people. SC2 is mostly people typing at each other, and recorded game files are what most youtube commentators are using. If you're being a racist, homophobic dick, then everyone is going to see it and you're going to get called out.

free speech is great because it actually inoculates us against all criticism for anything we ever say! those founding fathers thought of everything! god bless america.

We each of us have the freedom to be a total prick and not get arrested for it! But you still wind up being a total prick, so, meh.

I hate him so much that it can't be healthy.

I don't think you can be interested in human rights OR be a pragmatist and think that funding contraception doesn't make sense. Because even if you don't think that sex is a basic human right that everyone should be able to enjoy, then you have to at least acknowledge that people will have sex, even if you think they shouldn't, and costs will be reduced in the system overall if we provide people with contraception.

I think Limbaugh would like to consider himself a pragmatist, but his huge sexism and hatred of poor people is getting in the way

haha he's nowhere near a pragmatist

well, no shit

that brand of conservatism is like 25% pragmatist, 75% really mean Archie Bunker

I don't think there's any brand of conservatism that has higher than 1% pragmatism at this point

true, that

don't understand how anyone can listen to limbaugh and not quickly come to understand that the extreme social conservatives he represents have no ideology, not even a coherent point of view. limbaugh's entire political agenda = the undisguised hated of anyone he perceives as "different". hatred of women, hatred of nonwhites, hatred of liberals, hatred of the poor and weak, hatred of the educated, hatred as an end in itself.

love of Viagra, Oxycontin and money, tho

I don't think there's any brand of conservatism that has higher than 1% pragmatism at this point

― iatee, Wednesday, February 29, 2012 2:06 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

disagree. i think the hardcore, ideologically-committed free enterprise/small government conservatives tend to be extremely pragmatic, perhaps especially in their cynical exploitation of easily-led social conservatives.

From the not sayin just sayin dept, there was a third panel to Tuomas' comic that put it in slightly more context:

http://baconwrappedmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/elmer-fudd-duck-face-bacon-wrapped-media.jpg

my god what happened to this thread, all u gamers r savage as far as im concerned

do you think Lana del Rey has a diva cup?

putting in my diva cup
checking to see what's up
video games

Omg inappropriately loud IRL lol

A+ sarahell

seconded

feel like that post was trying hard for critical acclaim and still made it there

chinese state run media doesn't fail to disappoint

http://english.people.com.cn/90882/7750078.html
http://life.globaltimes.cn/entertainment/2010-08/562923.html

first link = I didn't know heave ho was working in china now

The headlines for other articles are killing me. Maybe Fox is fair and balanced after all.

saw a dude today walking with a girl, dude's t-shirt said "COOL STORY, BABE. now go make me a sandwich."

dude was def not a nerd or frat bro either, just looked vaguely 'hip'

has the GIVE IT TO YOUR OLD LADY TO WASH pants tag not been brought up here?

https://p.twimg.com/AnPDgReCAAEv8c3.jpg

public displays of disdain are a measure of one's coolness

^ undeniably

but holy fig @ those washing instructions

I'm sure mothers up and down the land found that hilarious.