Rolling 'this is sexist' thread

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they should invent a new character that you can play that's called a fag and make it the most powerful character just to throw everyone off

iatee, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

well, they are adding cute little panda monks in the next expansion

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

they should invent a new character that you can play that's called a fag and make it the most powerful character just to throw everyone off

too close to reality

mac and me (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

Urgh, that must be a horrible experience. Then again, the knitting community isn't that great either (in my country). :-( As a result I rarely socialize.

:O

Nath, how so??

cashmere tears-soaker (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

the only fabric they use is human skin

Mordy, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

if knitting in belgium is anything like playing WoW with glutton homophones, man idk

goole, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

Every knitting group I've been a part of has been almost entirely arty feminists (men & women alike), which means sometimes having to pretend their pattern for a felted vibrator cozy is some kind of high-concept art piece, but that's really as "bad" as it gets.

cashmere tears-soaker (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

is a vibrator cozy really that functional, or is it just an aesthetic nicety to put on a vibrator?

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

It seriously was some convoluted concept piece that was supposed to be a commentary on the TSA.

cashmere tears-soaker (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

haha what

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

My sorta-arty/pretty-geeky feminist best friend used to knit Diva Cup cozies!

I have one thing to say: "Roxanne Shanté" (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

I know I love ensconcing things in cabled wool.

cashmere tears-soaker (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

had never heard of the diva cup [glow of newly acquired wisdom]

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

What, where have you been??? We've done menstrual alternatives like 4 times!

drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

lolling at the name "diva cup"

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

RIP Whitney

oh wait

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

i took a vacation

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

menstruation vacation

cashmere tears-soaker (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/_img/chars/char_16963.jpg

a menstruation vacation I say

cashmere tears-soaker (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f14/snouts/2hzr39l.gif

ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

mooncup over my hammy

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

I haven't read this thread yet but are you all talking about vid games because of the whole streetfighter controversy

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

Kind of laughing at StarCraft 2 as a comparative point of positivity, in that there are still a bunch of morons who think launching into sexuality-based insults or racial slurs at the beginning of a game is funny. Not all that many, but it happens.

― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:16 AM (5 hours ago)

sorry to derail, but i just have to come back to this real quick. SC2 is light-years ahead of every other gaming community that i've had any experience with (which admittedly is mostly only through brief encounters and friends who have been into other games.) yes, there are still plenty of morons on battle.net, of course, but as far as the dominant culture of the game goes, it is almost mind-boggling how much better the SC2 community is--politeness is ingrained into the standard interactions between players ("glhf", "gg"), and while its not always practiced, it is really surprising how often it is. there has been major blowback from the community every single time someone in the spotlight has made any kind of racist or misogynistic remark, and overall the SC2 community is very self-conscious about how they come across to outsiders and they're very self-aware of the general perception of gaming communities. there's this whole idea that has taken root within SC2 that they are the ones that can really grow "eSports" by being more mature, presentable, professional, etc. i think this is largely due to the intense strategic difficulty of the game keeping the bar for entry somewhat high combined with the influence of certain community figures.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

starcraft is actually brought up in this srticle

http://kotaku.com/5889066/competitive-gamers-inflammatory-comments-spark-sexism-debate

This is a community that's, you know, 15 or 20 years old, and the sexual harassment is part of a culture, and if you remove that from the fighting game community, it's not the fighting game community—it's StarCraft. There's nothing wrong with StarCraft if you enjoy it, and there's nothing wrong with anything about eSports, but why would you want just one flavor of ice cream, you know? There's eSports for people who like eSports, and there's fighting games for people who like spicy food and like to have fun. There's no reason to turn them into the same thing, you know?

Later, when asked about whether shouting "Rape that bitch!" at a match is acceptable behavior, Bakhtanians replied, "Look, man. What is unacceptable about that? There's nothing unacceptable about that. These are people, we're in America, man, this isn't North Korea. We can say what we want. People get emotional."

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

It's called "diva cup" now? What happened to "mooncup"?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

huh interesting

what is glhf?

xp

goole, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

btw I thought up mooncup over my hammy yesterday thank you for letting me post it

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

good luck have fun

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

America!

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think I've ever heard "diva cup" used in Finland (seriously, what does it have to do with divas?), everyone I know says "mooncup" or plain ol' "menstruation cup".

Tuomas, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

think diva cup is a brand

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

the branding being something like "you are embracing your powerful womanhood by menstruating into a cup"

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

let's all agree: blood cup

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

Later, when asked about whether shouting "Rape that bitch!" at a match is acceptable behavior, Bakhtanians replied, "Look, man. What is unacceptable about that? There's nothing unacceptable about that. These are people, we're in America, man, this isn't North Korea. We can say what we want. People get emotional."

this is the part that just blew my mind. dude needs such a huge punch in the balls. you can have a tough, aggressive, rough-and-tumble gaming culture without insisting on the necessity of constant sexual and racial harassment.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

star craft: blood cup war

flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

i mean, wtf? does capcom employ this guy?

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

lol, no

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

he's their director of HR

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

plus okay, now that you guys mention it, i do remember earlier discussions of the "mooncup". now i have to learn a new something new today.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

gotta love the "free speech means i can be an abusive asshole" line of reasoning, it may be old but man its super effective at soothing the irritation of acknowledging that other people exist

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, most certainly, karl. I was just making the point that even in a community that great, there are still some bizarre outliers. They're not the ones who are doing well, but there's still the perception from some idiots that saying noxious bullshit is OK in online gaming.

It's interesting that SC2 is also one of the few games where people communicate in a way that is later replayable. I think fps gamers, if they're communicating, tend to use voice communication, as do fighting game people. SC2 is mostly people typing at each other, and recorded game files are what most youtube commentators are using. If you're being a racist, homophobic dick, then everyone is going to see it and you're going to get called out.

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

free speech is great because it actually inoculates us against all criticism for anything we ever say! those founding fathers thought of everything! god bless america.

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link

We each of us have the freedom to be a total prick and not get arrested for it! But you still wind up being a total prick, so, meh.

Aimless, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

I hate him so much that it can't be healthy.

Nicole, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think you can be interested in human rights OR be a pragmatist and think that funding contraception doesn't make sense. Because even if you don't think that sex is a basic human right that everyone should be able to enjoy, then you have to at least acknowledge that people will have sex, even if you think they shouldn't, and costs will be reduced in the system overall if we provide people with contraception.

I think Limbaugh would like to consider himself a pragmatist, but his huge sexism and hatred of poor people is getting in the way

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

haha he's nowhere near a pragmatist

iatee, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link

well, no shit

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

that brand of conservatism is like 25% pragmatist, 75% really mean Archie Bunker

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think there's any brand of conservatism that has higher than 1% pragmatism at this point

iatee, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

true, that

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link


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