SCHOOLBOY Q

hella on board w/this

Yeah, love this album too. Really dig how expressive Q is, even most of his adlibs feel like the pitch and aesthetic has been just so carefully considered. And the production is sick pretty much top to bottom.

good lookin to q on dodging xxl freshmen bullet

I know I wasn't that hot on Setbacks, but Habits and Contradictions is awesome.

― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, February 29, 2012 1:29 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

u wrong for this

The two albums strike me as both good and quite similar.

xp ok you're right, the new album sux

god it feels like every rap thread i go in contains deej telling someone they're rong or their opinion is weird for enjoying rapper x or preferring album y

i also preferred habits & contradictions slightly, setbacks took a few listens to settle while H&C was pretty immediate

thats completely backwards though. sorry for telling you you're wrong but ... H&C is a much less immediate record

they're both good obv

but whatever makes you feel better about sleeping on the 1st one & justifying it in retrospect

people have different responses to music

sorry to blow your mind but

dog cmon. lex accusing me of this is clearly some kind of practical joke -- his entire argumentative style is 'i'm right you're wrong' so i just went w/ it here

but if you want to discuss the contents of the record, joints like 'kamikaze' and 'fantasy' have much more traditional pop sounds to them than pretty much anything on this record, which goes in a much more oblique / abstract direction, IMHO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjOkdZVj98A

there's def more of a traditional, IMMEDIATE banger feel to these joints than the trippy kinetic weirdness of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oYwf5y9DFg

thats not saying one is better than the other inherently, i just happened to prefer the former approach personally, although I like both records. I do have trouble understanding how you can hear the weirder approach of this record as being a step towards 'immediacy' though, or i'm at least going to need you guys to explain more clearly what you mean by that term b/c i think its kind of self-evident how the two records split along these lines

xp that may be my problem with them? both those sound pretty rote to me compared to what's on this album

what song you know sounds like 'fantasy'?? thats a completely unique & amazing track

i dunno what in particular, but it definitely has that "non-mainstream rapper makes begrudging and half-assed attempt at mainstream song" vibe that always has put me off, even if the particulars might be a bit different, and the hook falls stupid flat.

the song w/ jhene on the new one is way better imo

its way weirder & the groove is considerably less sexual &, say, IMMEDIATE

what is 'half assed' about it?

i mean you're only talking abt my favorite song of last year, is it any wonder i'm like "wtf u wrong" when dudes start a thread about the artist on his 2nd record after the Pfork bnm & intense media hype & suddenly everyone's coming up w/ excuses why this is the better record

I listened to his record and was unimpressed with it last year, dog. Didn't even know he was BNMed either. You don't have to second-guess everything.

ok so on our original point, 'immediate' means, 'i liked it more right away', but isnt an intrinsic quality of the actual music, but i'm saying that it was more immediate in the pop sense, and that's something i value while you tend to value perhaps a more abstract approach from this partic. artist

blah reword

for you,
immediate simply meant, 'i liked it more right away'

i meant 'immediate' as an actual characteristic of music that was aiming for a more pop immediacy,

for me, this is something valued, while you might place more of a value on abstraction in this particular artist,

and now we have both agreed 2 disagree

what is 'half assed' about it?

― D-40, Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:44 AM Bookmark

schoolboy q just kind of drones, jhene sounds uninvested, and it's really small-sounding, fades into the background easily

xp, yeah, that's probably right

"Kamikaze" and (especially) "Fantasy" are def. my favourite tracks on Setbacks.

"Fantasy" is pretty much perfect, esp. that bit where the beat gets all muted and fuzzy like you're listening from inside the womb.

I immediately loved both Setbacks and Habits & Contradictions

this album really isn't all that

mostly i don't get why everyone is falling all over themselves to talk about how good the production is... i think some of the beats are really corny

if not corny than at least just kinda off-putting... sorta like the danny brown record except without the implicit acknowledgement that some of the beats are supposed to piss you off

(idk beats on the danny brown are great)

like H&C much more than setbacks, probably because of the production...

i feel like the production is more ear-catching on H&C and schoolboy q stretches himself vocally a lot more too - the songs have a lot more unexpected twists and tangents that keep you interested and the beats are pretty incredible.

did u know? H&C is a prequel to Setbacks. Makes you think eh?

i feel like the production is more ear-catching on H&C and schoolboy q stretches himself vocally a lot more too - the songs have a lot more unexpected twists and tangents that keep you interested and the beats are pretty incredible.

― lex pretend, Wednesday, February 29, 2012 1:38 PM Bookmark

otm

I was half-wrong about "Kamikaze" btw, the beat is kinda whatever, but Q's performance is great

there are some awesome flutes on H&C too

nice portishead sample as well

there are some awesome flutes on H&C too

REAL OGS, etc.

i agree w/rev vis-à-vis the two jhené songs though i'm sadly coming to the conclusion that i'm just not that into jhené at all so her presence is kinda negligible to me

ha yeah i totally thought of that thread a few times xp

she's a good songwriter when she has more room to stretch out and she has really good phrasing imo.

I think she'd do pretty well just doing floaty inconsequential rap chorus hooks forever.

SCHOOLBOY THERE HE GO

Love all the ad libs too

Most Enthusiastic Crowd

Minneapolis. I was literally expecting 150 people there because nobody showed up to the meet-and-greet. I was thinking, "This is about to be a disaster." But that shit was packed out. It was a little overwhelming for me. It was crazy, all white people. There were like three black people in there.

people who wanna perfect their "the album you lames didn't rep for was better" game really need to get into metal, you'll love it

this album really isn't all that

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, February 29, 2012 11:05 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark

lol this guy

http://pitchfork.com/features/guest-lists/8790-schoolboy-q/

what an excellent interview