Rolling 'this is sexist' thread

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although diet coke does have more caffeine than coke zero, factoid

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^ both disgusting imo

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

I swear I started a thread about those Men kleenex once.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh I didn't but I posted about them here:
marketing of masculinity

They're hysterical. Slogan might as well have been: Because you're too old to still be using your sock.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

or using some godawful hankerchief and putting it in your pocket full of snot

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

pretty sure it's just for wanking

sarahell, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

real men just let the jizz dry and peel it off later, or maybe not at all

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

the layers of dried jizz make your dick look... aah nevermind

flagp∞st (dayo), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

cigar box

what's a goon to garbus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

*shudders*

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 20:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

TOO FAR GUYS, TOO FAR

wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/sexual-harassment-as-ethical-imperative-the-ugly-side-of-fighting-games

'this is sexist' ? they say it's part of the game uhuhuhu

Sébastien, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, there is a really stupid part of the gaming community that insists trash talk is normal and sometimes even necessary, and that anything goes.

riiiiiiight

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

wtf at that, really

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

"necessary" !

Mark G, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

'this is sexist' ?

yes

Mordy, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kind of laughing at StarCraft 2 as a comparative point of positivity, in that there are still a bunch of morons who think launching into sexuality-based insults or racial slurs at the beginning of a game is funny. Not all that many, but it happens.

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm stumbling at the concept of a streaming internet show where you watch people play video games.

beachville, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's true that video games would not be the same w/out 14 year olds shouting homophobic, sexist, racist slurs at you while fragging your character.

They would be much better.

Mordy, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

the argument begins an hour and forty five minutes into the video

no and thank you

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

That article makes me want to go on a shooting spree.

Miranda “Super Yan” Pakozdi stepped in to say that the sexual harassment hurts the community, but she’s shushed and told to let the man speaking for her finish.

I mean what is this I don't even.

I've been playing a ton of the new Star Wars MMORPG, The Old Republic, and luckily haven't seen much sexist garbage on the general chat channels during the game. But on the forums? Ay-yi-yi.

A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

also wow, this really makes me glad I never got super into the fighting game community

gamers should all go die in a fire so we can start over

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm stumbling at the concept of a streaming internet show where you watch people play video games.

― beachville, Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:17 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

man you've never watched korean starcraft tv shows on youtube?

flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

possible challop: i think the problem is that the really serious/devoted gamers become so serious + devoted partially bc they have social interaction/interrelationship deficiencies. those deficiencies get carried into the gaming community where you have tons of mostly young men who don't know how to act appropriately towards others, and particularly towards women.

Mordy, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

that is not a challop at all, I mean didn't you play WoW for a while?

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol yeah. the challop is the conclusion i left off, which is where i said that gamers like to think that they're so enlightened compared to the cool students with whom they attend school. like, i think that myth is deeply embedded in the gaming community, and it's actually the total opposite bc of this phenomenon. actually, this might not be a challop here. more a challop on PA forums i'd bet.

Mordy, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

I watch SC2 commentary videos :(

Mordy, I think there are a lot of serious gamers (or professional, even) who are perfectly fine at personal interaction. It's dumbasses who normalize the negative interactions who screw up the system, and they're really typically a vocal minority in the fanbase.

I dunno if this is a challenging opinion or if the gaming community actually believes that stuff? I mean, the PA people really didn't react appropriately to some allegations of misogyny/triggering material but it seemed more like ignorance

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

"If you're a woman. And then you'll get called a bitch if you complain about people concentrating solely on that."

this. i agree that it is sexist, but otoh shrug it off and laugh at it.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think that in every community a vocal minority (especially one that is so vocal as the misanthropic gaming minority) requires an apathetic or even sympathetic silent majority to thrive.

Mordy, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

“For some guys, being themselves means making mildly lecherous comments or racial jokes. Now, a bunch of idiots are conflating and exaggerating this with actually being racist or sexist. That’s supremely fucking stupid, because they’re not even close to the same.”

I have one thing to say: "Roxanne Shanté" (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

smdh

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

playing WoW with ostensibly adult people who:

- bragged about failing all of their classes and getting kicked out of school
- bragged about missing work and not calling in so they could play
- would leave in the middle of a raid to go to Taco Bell
- liked to type rape jokes in general chat
- liked to belittle anyone who made a mistake, no matter how minor and no matter whether they had ever made that mistake before
- were by and large massively proud of their blinding, overwhelming ignorance of EVERYTHING aside from the game

... all of that, and then realizing this was one of the FRIENDLIER gaming communities, really sucked a lot of the fun of gaming out of my life, which is why I'm now playing single-player games on my phone, PS3 and Vita rather than gearing up for the next WoW expansion pack or checking out The Old Republic.

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

- would leave in the middle of a raid to go to Taco Bell

I'm sorry, this is hilarious

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

- would leave in the middle of a raid to go to Taco Bell

disgusting savages

Mordy, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh I'm not gonna lie, that WAS hilarious

The whole 25 person raid was sitting on Vent listening to this dude babble (he babbled a LOT, and also used to bug the shit out of the women in our guild) and something happened where someone had to go AFK and he said "okay I'm doing a run to the border, I'll be back in 5 minutes".

We all were sitting there going "... WHAT?", especially since he was gone for half an hour.

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Old Republic has been pretty good, I must say. I've been playing since launch in December and I think I've only had to ignore-list four or five people.

A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe he meant 'going to the border gave me runs'

flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

and he was playing on his desktop and not his laptop

flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

when he got back, he was talking about how much he loved Taco Bell but he really had to stop going there because he weighed close to 400 pounds, but sometimes he couldn't resist and just had to drop everything, ask his mom for some money, and make a run for the border

IIRC he was 24 or 25

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Urgh, that must be a horrible experience. Then again, the knitting community isn't that great either (in my country). :-( As a result I rarely socialize.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

you forget that ilx is actually one of the more decent communities until you bump up against this idiocy

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

You might want to consider not reading any of the comments on that Craig Bannister article, not that you would have anyway.

drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

My new WoW guild are alright, but there's a few subjects that I cringe whenever they come up - it just seems that unless a group is actually set up demographically to avoid sexism / racism / homophobia, there's no reason to expect them to avoid it. But even then if you call them on it they'll mostly be embarrassed or cut it out or at least work your dislike into the narrative - I've not seen the hateful "f u this is our right we will make our stand here" stuff from that thread. The only other place I've really seen it anywhere (that I can think of) is the "Gay just means lame, that's all, jeez granddad", which doesn't really seem to have turned up that much on this side of the Atlantic.

Disclaimer: I am a straight white male, so obviously I am wearing a +12 suit of pillows in all of this.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

one of the most interesting things I watched happen was seeing my gay coworker join my WoW guild and seeing him shortly afterward start using "gay" to mean stupid, something he never did before

it was especially jarring seeing this coming from a 40+ year old

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's kind of hilarious to contrast the dramatic environment that the game designers created vs. the regressed man-children who play the game and turn the austere fantasy world into a bunch of orcs calling each other "fag" every 2 seconds

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

nb I've never actually played WoW I just imagine that's what it's like based on my other online gaming experiences

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

depending on the server, it can get like that

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

they should invent a new character that you can play that's called a fag and make it the most powerful character just to throw everyone off

iatee, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, they are adding cute little panda monks in the next expansion

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

they should invent a new character that you can play that's called a fag and make it the most powerful character just to throw everyone off

too close to reality

mac and me (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:00 (2 years ago) Permalink


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