Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

Yeah, I was looking forward to Bowie too, and I have time to run it right now, but I'm not going to grab it out of his hands.

Use the extra time to familiarise yourself with Baal's Hymn, guys.

(I was watching the film with the missus last night, not entirely to her pleasure if I'm honest)

If you want to run it, WmC, be my guest. But if you can't be bothered I'm happy to do it later (if you grab it off me, can you maybe put me down for Tom Waits at some point?)

I definitely don't mind doing it! I had fun with Led Zeppelin. I just don't want to feel like I'm barging in and taking over something that you were going to have fun with when you had time for it later.

i can run the paul simon poll (poll simon?) whenever if the bowie one isnt happening

Actually I am kinda stoked to jump in with Bowie now.

Honestly go for it. I don't really have the time to run it, but I definitely do to vote and enjoy.

OK! I'll start it in the next hour or two.

Cool, looking forward. Don't forget to sign me up for Waits.

done and done!

(the list in progress)

Could you link to the polls/nom threads when they open? I'm not seeing the Bowie one on sna.

I meant to do that and forgot. Here's the new poll -- NEUPÖLLN - ILM Artist Poll #14 - David Bowie

haha I don't actually mind waiting to do the Depeche Mode poll. I just don't understand why folks are making the results rollouts so painstakingly long.

Well, you gotta make room for the dance numbers.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/02/28/article-0-0D65E44F000005DC-20_468x302.jpg

if somebody nice shows me how to correlate them, I'd be happy to be in charge of a Cover Versions poll.

Stoked for Paul Simon coming up!

Does anybody think it'd be interesting to do a "classic rock singles" poll? Obviously there's a huge can of worms in terms of what would qualify, I guess I am thinking of like your meat-and-potatoes "Classic Rock" radio format such as I grew up with in the 90s, so kind of late 60s through to mayyyybe early 80s. Probably would have to do a whole preliminary thread just hashing out the definition. But would there be interest? Would the results be surprising enough to justify it?

shit, I think everyone would vote for something different there.

I would secretly hope Dire Straits "Walk of Life" makes it to #1.

the best way I could think of to go about that was if someone who had access to Mediabase radio spin data (I know a guy who hooked me up a couple years ago, I could check w/ him again), they could pull a list of like the 500 most played songs on all US classic rock stations, and we could just use that as the nominations list and vote for a top 50 or top 100 out of that.

that sounds fair.

Only if "Marquee Moon" is on the list.

huh?

Uh, if there's a "favorite citrus" ballot poll, I don't want Gravenstein Apple in the nominations list. "Marquee Moon" is a great song, but it doesn't fall in the Classic Rock canon. I kinda like the Classic Rock idea and cutting through a lot of the preliminaries with straight radio science.

Normally I'd say let the community decide via its votes, but the community being ILM that'd likely produce some classic rock consensus in favour of The Fall.

pretty much, yeah

Well, pfff, let's see the 500 list.

If there's 50 worth nom, then yes.

Yeah, I mean, I love Marquee Moon, but we had the 70s Trax poll already...this would really be, yknow, BTO and Heart and Bad Company and so on. Probably some overlap with other polls (esp Stones and Zep).

Seems like the right historical moment too, since a lot of CR stations have been changing formats - the one here calls itself ''the next generation of classic rock'' and basically shifts the timeline up until Use Your Illusion. It'd be fun to survey the CLASSIC classic rock canon.

As long as "American Pie" doesn't place, I'm down.

I have little classic rock radio songs bouncing around in my bloodstream. Would vote, would vote for "Sultans of Swing" as my #1 song, though so consider yourselves warned.

Nowt wrong with Sultans Of Swing, though Fleetwood Mac have this poll all sewn up.

poll hasn't even been organized yet and the results are already in dire straits

I would throw a couple points to "Walk of Life" maybe, although perhaps that's a bit late in the game.

seems like a big enough poll concept to fall outside the artist polls, like Postwar Jazz Albums or Alltime Rap Tracks

PS. Steve Miller Band and/or "Rock & Roll Hootchie-Koo" for the win.

ok, i got the top 500 spins for classic rock in 2011/2012 -- casino did you want to run the poll? i can send you the data i just got but i'd be happy to sign up to run the poll myself.

Do it! Start the thread.

it was DC's idea, i'm not gonna yank it from him w/o permission, also shouldn't it go in the queue with all the other ballot polls?

seems like a big enough poll concept to fall outside the artist polls, like Postwar Jazz Albums or Alltime Rap Tracks

― Steamtable Willie (WmC), Monday, February 27, 2012 10:02 AM (1 hour ago)

But I'm just one opinion in a Costco-sized variety pack of opinions, so --

well the idea of the queue is to kind of streamline ballot polls so there's not a bunch going on at once, right? i don't see why single-artist polls would be excepted from that.

I agree, it should go in the queue - there are so many more of these things now compared to a year or two ago, it seems like.

I'm into doing it, if nobody minds the fact that my REM poll took like a year to get all the results out...

Would definitely want to preface it with a rules/debate thread to work out the best mechanism for noms. I'd definitely be interested to see the 2011 list - but I feel like the 2011 idea of a classic rock playlist is different than what I have in my head. Who knows? Would be an interesting poll regardless, I do like the "objectivity" of a given list to work from. Hmmm.

i agree w/ that -- looking at the 500, i'd be tempted to throw out anything post-1990, if not earlier, for poll options. i could try and get some data from earlier years but i kinda feel like there wouldn't be a huge difference other than some of the newer stuff creeping in.

if you think you'd take a long time compiling results, people tend to get impatient about that sort of thing, if you want help or would rather hand it off, but it's totally your call.

I'd love to compare today's Classic Rock 500 and the same list from 2000. xposts

(the list in progress)

btw DC if you let me know where to e-mail it i'll send you those spreadsheets

soooo long until the jay-z poll

yeah, can't wait for that one

can we restrict these to one week-long nomination periods or something? seems like they're taking 4ever

at the very least we should get back in the groove of 1 voting + 1 revealing

we literally JUST got back on track with the first couple after the sandbox/year-end-lists hiatus so "seems" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in k3v's post

tbf i am v strong

can one of y'all make sure to email me personally when the neptunes are up thx