racist jeremy lin espn headline poll

But it's not like Yao Ming arrived in Houston and some Texan millionaire went "Know what we should do? How about tacos filled with egg rolls instead of shredded beef! Call it the Yao Ming!"

him being asian-american instead of asian has everything to do with it imo

right. there is a huge gap between yao ming / ich / jackie chan and people who speak english as a first language

i was trollng with that tiger post btw

and there are maybe like 3 famous asian american females

related to thred title: this is the guy

http://gothamist.com/attachments/byakas/22212espn.jpg

I feel like players who come from asian professional leagues have a 'stamp of approval' on them - they're supposed to be the best of the best already

tbf if dude had gone to kansas or carolina and been drafted i don't think (quite) the same sort of thing would be going on

as it is, i want him to call someone a round-eye motherfucker

that's the thing, though, is that kansa or unc would prob never have picked him up no matter how good he was in college

not unless he was like, 7'0

dunno -- i think you underestimate college coaches' self-interest

I think it's also kinda a slow news cycle

like he would be a story regardless, but there's not some national pressing story right now, election pretty boring, so this helps fill the void

I'm sure this was discussed upthread, but its also a huge deal that he happened to the knicks specifically

also holy shit for this guy to be out of nowhere the top story everywhere

i occasionally have fantasies about how well i would handle such a thing, but needless to say i've not been tested

ilx project imo

^^^my public relations rep tbh

dunno -- i think you underestimate college coaches' self-interest

― mookieproof, Friday, February 24, 2012 10:35 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

idk, 0.5% of ncaa basketball players are asian-americans - it's not a... received notion that asian american players can be good at bball

'thank you all for coming. I can confirm that my client did make those comments about jeremy lin, but can explain everything....'

dunno -- i think you underestimate college coaches' self-interest

UNC and Kansas had the chance to get him and ignored him. Everyone except Harvard and Brown ignored him.

yes, but if an asian-american high school player were considered awesome, i don't at all think college coaches would be like fuck that guy

the rating of high school players is more problematic, on any number of levels

UNC and Kansas had the chance to get him and ignored him. Everyone except Harvard and Brown ignored him.

do you think this was prejudice or shitty scouting?

High school career

In his senior year in 2005–2006, Lin captained Palo Alto High School to a 32–1 record and upset nationally ranked Mater Dei, 51–47, for the California Interscholastic Federation (CIF) Division II state title.[16][17] He was named first-team All-State and Northern California Division II Player of the Year, ending his senior year averaging 15.1 points, 7.1 assists, 6.2 rebounds and 5.0 steals.[16]

I know it's not like he played for one of the prep schools known for feeding D1 schools, but still, he sent his tapes to UCLA, stanford, other D1 schools.

mookie, this has been covered before but there are def stereotypes out there that asians in general are just bad at sports, are slower, smaller, weaker, etc. and it wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that scouts harbor those stereotypes either consciously or unconsciously.

ok. it wouldn't surprise me in the least to have scouts harbor stereotypes either.

i'm claiming (hoping?) that basketball coaches want to win more than they want to be discriminatory. let us hope that #17's emergence fosters a broader net for their trawling.

mookie I am sure they believe that too, but that doesn't mean their decision making doesn't incorporate received wisdom / stereotypes / etc.

like they don't 'want to be discriminatory' they are just bad at making race-neutral judgments

t's not like the country went wild with Godzilla references over Ichiro Suzuki

like they don't 'want to be discriminatory' they are just bad at making race-neutral judgments

― iatee, Friday, February 24, 2012 10:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bingo

http://deadspin.com/5888295/

was posted in the 'is this racist'

I know that east asian romanization conventions are hard (nevermind that we've had at least 10 years of exposure to such via yao ming), and this guy's name is a potential minefield - both dong, and gook, in one name ! - but very conveniently his surname is totally ordinary and bypasses the other two words entirely!

insane that its ESPN AGAIN

Lee Dong-Gook stats for season

2007–2008 	Middlesbrough 	23 	(0)

lol lin went to palo alto

I just remember I have a friend who went to palo alto and is also taiwanese-american

remembered

I also have a friend who went to palo alto and is taiwanese-american (haha I already told dayo this tho)

Weird thing is that in the article, they do use Lee where a surname would be used.

isn't lee the surname?

Yeah, that's what I meant.

So they did it right in the story, but went the wrong way in the headline.

Racist headline writers are taking over America.

my wife made a comment the other day to the effect that 'Headline writer innocently didn't think/know of racist meaning to the word "chink"' was her take on this and i was all oh shit you did not just say that, trust me you're wrong

Yeah, you'd have to be living under a rock not to know. I learned the word at like age 9 or 10 from an episode of Sanford and Son.

even those in my circle that are the type that go out of their way to defend indefensible people kind of backed down on defending this guy...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/ben-jerry-replaces-fortune-cookies-lin-sanity-flavor-162728739.html

also, not racist but...kinda creates an image I don't think Yahoo! intended to:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6177/lolsqb.jpg

I still think the headline writer made an innocent (read: not malicious/intentional) mistake, but he should still get fired for the crime of being too fucking stupid to do his job correctly

The most OTM part of this is that dude's firing was justified regardless of intent.

yeah, actually, if you think dude should have kept his job for any reason, it's a pretty good litmus test for "You might be a racist if..."

i'm sort of been mesmerized by the idea of having fortune cookie pieces in my ice cream since this ben & jerry's thing