Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

(hi ned)

please be reminded i have not said one bad thing about linkin park.

Uh, yay? (To make it clearer, Mark -- I don't care how many awards they've won or how long they've been together or all that crap, what matters about U2 or any other band is what I think of their music. That should be all that matters to you as well. Or do you seriously go around rating bands based on those extraneous factors rather than their music?)

Ned, like I said I don't care if people like the music or not. That's their opinion. It's when people are prejudiced towards me and other fans that there begins to be a problem.

Fair enough, and as Dan has illustrated, that's something that is pretty commonly felt no matter what you're listening to. I will say though that you were 'irritated' when people judged Mr. Matthews and company on the basis of what they had heard via the radio songs -- so clearly you do care somewhat! ;-) I'm not saying that's a bad thing at all, we could all say something similar. And as Dan notes, his response (and mine) aren't to say, "We can't get along because you like DMB," it's to say, "We're not going to agree on this subject -- that means nothing else about anything else, though, or doesn't have to be." Which it sounds like we're all saying anyway.

ergo I must think I'm a suicidal vampire fairy

You don't, Dan? But but but I do! Oh wait...

being a fan, I'm allowed to say that.

oh, sorry

Seen as a verb phrase instead of a adjectival one, this suggests wonders.

ooh! another accidental double entendre!

Listen junior, not only have I invariably seen U2 more times than you've had hot dinners, I've actually sat down and talked to the man, so don't try to school me about his cred. I don't care if JAZ COLEMAN espouses the music of the Dave Mathews Band. Lending creedence to an artist just because someone you respect or admire likes them is no way to establish merit. Hell, I'm a massive fan of Julian Cope, but the records he cites on his website as 'crucial' I usually find nigh on unlistenable. What I can tell you is that to these ears, the music of the DMB is dead fucking boring and deplorably overrated by a nation of whistleheaded frat schmucks who don't know any better. I couldn't give less of a flaming fuckin' fig if Bono likes them -- he likes fuckin' Patti Smith too, and ya don't see me charging out my door to go buy her fuckin' crappy albums.

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ILX in more addictive and debilitating than crack cocaine shock. I can feel time slowly ceasing to have any meaning.

I think this is the most pathetic thing I've read in years. It's taken me this long to stop laughing at this post and the deeply feeble mind that concocted it. The best thing you can come up with is "you're just jealous that you aren't an accountant"???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

oh yes you do

Cheers,
Gracie in Canada

Oh sweet irony.

Several stores (including ours) were fined, and in Westchetsre, NY ALONE, two record stores were shut down (temporarily or not, I'm not sure) because Matthews objected to the selling of his "bootlegs" -

Nowadays, we call that section the "import" section and are very careful to never use the 'B' word, suspicious of spies and other soulless metermaid types.

My store, for our part, staged a boycott of all Dave Matthews CDs.

Fuck him and his shitty, sterile music.

This is a very good reason to hate anything, actually.

Also, doesn't he have some disease that will cause him to lose his guitar playing sk1llz eventually (I think someone said that to me)? If so, let's give all our money to AIDS research instead.

Jon Williams...that is such an ignorant thing to say. Want to do some research and find the name of this so called disease? I'm actually really curious. Unless it's arthritis...

Alex, excuse me for making a typo. I know it makes me such an idiot...and I know you've probably never made one, am I right?

Cheers again,
Gracie

Most people here are really good at hating. I don't care for Dave Matthews, but there is no reason for wreckless hate
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Is somebody paying you to say this? Bootlegging has always been one of the most satisfying things about being a fan. Even/especially when you buy a shitty-sounding bootleg (Lou Reed's Blondes Have More Fun!, Australia ca. 1974), there's a great rite-of-passage feeling to entering the realm of psycho-fanhood where you're buying records you know are sub-par that you'll never listen to just because you have to own them. If not for bootlegging, how boring would it have been to be a Joy Division fan in 1985? Bootlegging=fanhood, labels & bands oppose it because they smell money that they're not getting...not because of any "artistic integrity" questions or anything.

...as the googlers always want me to add: "that's just my opinion" ;)

Although, at the time it came out, I thought the breakdown section of "What Would You Say" was kinda cool.

I kinda don't like the way their shows are supposed to be these huge improv spectacles, when in reality they pretty much just trade solos. I've honestly seen more adventurous improv interplay at Roots shows, Sonic Youth shows, even They Might Be Giants shows.

I don't exactly hate them on a Limp Bizkit/Creed actually-makes-me-sick-to-my-stomach level, I just don't particularly like their style of writing/improvising.

Carter Beauford, howevah, I must say is quite a drummer. I think it would be cool if he quit and joined Fishbone. :D

Au contraire, my vehement Canuck. Some argue that everything I've ever written was just one giant typo, but that wasn't my point. I was merely commenting on the exquisite irony of you decrying our collective ignorance, yet mispelling the word in the process. And it wasn't a typo, it was a misspelling (you did it twice).

Hitler had a lot of fans too.

Sorry. I couldn't resist.

Phish sold almost a million tickets to "The Great Went" in 1998. Something tells me this wouldn't happen to a band if people didn't like listening to them.

Maybe those people just don't know any better.

As for your comment about Phish's fans not knowing any better - that is a weak comment coming from someone who in MY opinion doesn't know any better either.

I am also curious to know, since you're so cynical about DMB, as well as other great bands such as U2, Phish, Pearl Jam and Counting Crows...what is it that YOU listen to? And I'm sure you would feel quite justifyed in defending them if I were to insult not only their music, but their very existance?

Cheers yet again,
Gracie

Happens here all the time, Gracie. Alex knows how to handle it, though. ;-)

I am all against jerk CD stores who care nothing about the integrity of the band, nothing about the integrity of the music, have crappy recordings that they way overcharge, and screw the fans for. Bootlegging screws the fans in and of the fact that jerks go to shows, tape it, and then sell it for $60 to some shmuck who thinks he can't get it anywhere else.

Live Music trading: Yes
Bootlegging (ie jerks making money off me, who care nothing about what i feel, they just want a buck): No
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Cheers,
Gracie

I don't know who brought Hitler into this debate first, sister, but it wasn't me. My invokation of the man (after your comment) was only to demonstrate that love of the masses doesn't necessarily equate a good thing.

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