Best Blue Öyster Cult Album

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Oh yeah, see the beginning of Legs McNeil's amazing "Please Kill Me" on how the early proto-punks were deeply influenced by the Doors. Also Patti Smith's new book.

broom air, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

i see the doors as having "invented" romantic gothiness in a rock context. can see why the darkness of that might have inspired a lot of punks, but i don't know that that = being punk. interesting idea, though.

i think BOC is deeply subversive but not in a "punk way"...

yeah, that's a good point. their subversion wasn't aggressive, direct, critical. more satire and displacement. helped build the strangeness i was talking about earlier (and the strangeness-in-familiarity that marco mentioned).

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

I dig the Doors as proto-punk for sure, you can't hear "Gimme Danger" and not recognize Iggy was taking notes from J.M. but I'm kind of notoriously orthodox about genres I guess - your band does "Touch Me" with strings 'n' shit? then yall aren't punk imo*
*"in my orthodoxy"

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

right now i just got chills from "Live For Me" off of Heaven Forbid the 98 BOC album...it's about someones brother who was killed in a car accident, the chorus is a bit cheesy but it's got that crystal sad buck dharma verses

I dig the Doors as proto-punk for sure, you can't hear "Gimme Danger" and not recognize Iggy was taking notes from J.M. but I'm kind of notoriously orthodox about genres I guess - your band does "Touch Me" with strings 'n' shit? then yall aren't punk imo*
*"in my orthodoxy"

― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:21 AM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha i'm the opposite really, like i see punk as a long-form narrative of the late 20th century, basically i see everything i like as punk: free jazz, weirdo hard rock, early hip hop, the doors, CCR, the stooges, PIL...like the byron coley/mike watt definition of punk

dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

So m@tt you've read the Popoff now? Thoughts? I'm wanting to buy it...

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

nah not the book, i just found like one chapter of the book in PDF form somehwere, it was the chapter on the making of cultosaurus erectus, didn't seem like super well written but interesting and lots on inside details, think i'm gonna buy the e-book version...shit is way too expensive on ebay

dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah I'ma ebook it too, the $ goes right to the author it seems.

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

just bought this cuz what the heck. 313 pages! never read popoff before...

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

His Sabbath book is great.

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

or i should say "books", he had one that was full of memorabilia along with the text, plus one he called a "FAQ".

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

big "Never Say Die" fan, which means he's good with me.

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

listening to heaven forbid, it's not bad!

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

OMG

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Filthy McNasty's looks like a good place.

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

AGGRESSION UNCHALLENGED IS AGGRESSION UNLEASHED!

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thats such a beautiful fkin picture on so many levels

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

america was such a beautiful country once :(

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

I miss the old Sunset Strip... That Secret Treaties billboard would have been across the street from the original Tower Records and a couple blocks down from Ben Franks.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Filthy McNasty's looks like a good place.

Yup. Filthy McNasty's eventually became the infamous Viper Room where River Phoenix, etc.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

I probably would have liked it better as McNasty's

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Any NYC ilxorz wanna go see them at Bergen Performing Arts Center on the 21st?

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 1 April 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

i have tickets purchased to a slightly less upscale venue, but the cult nonetheless! (and also apparently they are suffering the indignity of opening for kansas)

Kansas & Blue Oyster Cult
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Details: Kansas, Blue Oyster Cult
Ho-Chunk Gaming-WI-Dells
Baraboo, WI
Sat, May 19, 2012 07:00 PM

the penultimate prophets (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 April 2012 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I can't tell you how happy I am seeing this thread in SNA again!

the guy was ugly human (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 2 April 2012 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

BÖC at the Ho-Chunk? That's like just up the road from me! (Leave before Kansas, get on down Hwy 12 before it gets too dark and arcane out there.)

@GracieLoPan #fyi (Display Name (this cannot be changed):), Monday, 2 April 2012 19:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha yeah what's Ho-Chunk like (best casino name ever!)...we actually are driving down from Minneapolis, about 4 hours, so we gotta couple double rooms at the casino itself and are just planning on getting tanked during Kansas and leaving if they are too lame...actually though Kansas has a surprising amount of original members (3/5)...though a little sad one of the greatest 70s rock bands has to open for one of the corniest

the penultimate prophets (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 April 2012 19:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

hope they play the emerald queen casino this time around. they did a year or so back, but i couldn't make it.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

also given the May 19th date we are hoping for a timely addition of "Last Days of May" to the set list!

the penultimate prophets (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey guys apparently Kansas still do some of the prog epics, not sure if I'm selling it to you here tbh. At least BOC aren't supporting Styx.

0O0O0O0O0 (Matt #2), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

honestly, just because we were totally cool with going to see BOC alone I'm kinda geeked to see Kansas in a weird way, though I hope it means that BOC doesn't get a short set :(

the penultimate prophets (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

They did "Last Days of May" when I saw them a year or two ago, it was great. So they probably still do it.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

cool, yeah from setlists i've seen they definitely seem to do a lot of "real headz know the deal" type songs still

the penultimate prophets (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't think I've ever seen them *not* do "Last Days of May", it's a Buck showpiece

Stormy Davis, Monday, 2 April 2012 21:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Last time I saw them (2010 -- really still bummed that I didn't see them at all in 2011) the opener was Foghat. Who had 1 of 4 original members, the drummer . The rest of the band was made up of the bassist who joined in 1976 (so okay, that is kinda old school), the guitarist from Wild Cherry of "Funky White Boy" fame, and another singer/guitarist who had played on some late-70s Ted Nugent albs (not Derek St. Holmes -- some other guy)

Stormy Davis, Monday, 2 April 2012 21:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

and they were actually pretty good!

Stormy Davis, Monday, 2 April 2012 21:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

really like Foghat but it's not that hard to recreate their songs, pretty simple so you could plug a lot of people in there and they'd still be okay

Ho-Chunk is probably not the MOST depressing Indian casino. So there's that.

@GracieLoPan #fyi (Display Name (this cannot be changed):), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 12:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh my God they're playing in Newton, IA

fucking Newton

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 13:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

the guitarist from Wild Cherry

In Foghat?!!?!?!

That is so wrong - Paul Rodgers/Queen-wrong.

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 13:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Grand Funk, featuring Punky Meadows"

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 13:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tony La Russa was only the second manager to win the World Series in both leagues. Dismissed... as coincidence!?

<3

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 14:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

hmm itd be nice to go see them in IL on May 18th

Year of the RMDE (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 15:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, as it turns out, I'll be there!

@GracieLoPan #fyi (Display Name (this cannot be changed):), Friday, 6 April 2012 03:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ho-Chunk is probably not the MOST depressing Indian casino. So there's that.

― @GracieLoPan #fyi (Display Name (this cannot be changed):), Wednesday, April 4, 2012 7:37 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha high praise! i've been to some pretty depressing ones in northern iowa

still excited!

Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is one of my favorite ever ILM posts:

What Contenderizer wrote upthread is completely true to me too.
I can only add that the alien, unseizable feeling surrounding BOC was further amplified by what seemed to me their almost quintessential Americanness.
They have the same hazy, dream-like quality of those old 50's horror movies, always walking the fine line between the familiar and the utterly arcane, always evoking a fantasy world where cars, drive-ins, rock n roll, sorcerers and labyrinthine Gothic mansions could stay side by side.
I discovered Blue Oyster Cult around the same time I stumbled into Chrome, and both bands are for me like the perfect soundtrack of this dark, imaginary continent I thought it was America.

― Marco Damiani, Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:09 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 April 2012 19:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, love that post

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 April 2012 19:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

also love the chrome connection, not an association i would ever have thought to make

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 April 2012 19:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

OKAY ROLL CALL FOR THE BÖC SHOW AT HO-CHUNK: ME

@GracieLoPan #fyi (Display Name (this cannot be changed):), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

that cannot be a real place

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'll thank you not to slander one of Wisconsin's most awesome Native American nations. Or its lucrative casinos: http://www.ho-chunkgaming.com/wisconsindells/

@GracieLoPan #fyi (Display Name (this cannot be changed):), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

implied slander retracted

The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:24 (2 years ago) Permalink


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