Luck: HBO series: David Milch, Dustin Hoffman, Michael Mann

Fantastic direction in this latest

slo-mo race scene was kind of weird, mostly awesome

Was wondering why no discussion on this. Best episode yet, I say. The race was beautiful.

Thought the music in The Big Scene was a bad choice (too heavy-handed) but it was still pretty great.

Gary Stevens was awesome in this episode (he is a retired Hall of Fame jockey in real life btw)

The Ray Charles song at the end was cool too

The music didn't bother me. In terms of heavy handeadness it felt far less so than the Sigur Ros in ep 1.

Confession: I watched the first ep and was completely mystified about what ppl were talking about. I guess I don't understand racing/betting-speak , lol. But those fucking horses were beautiful, and I am so in love with Michael Mann I just watched in a happy daze. :/

Yr not alone.

As much as I like the show, I'm really waiting for the DVD so I can watch it with subtitles and start picking up on some of the nuances in the dialogue (hopefully). This is he I watched Zdeadwood after all.

*Deadwood, obvs

i find it v odd that people shout the numbers of the horse when they're watching the race, like "go 8, come on 8" etc...my dad is quite into betting and he brought me to the track tons of times as a kid, you always say the horse's name in my experience.

I can see them changing that to make it easier for the audience.

yeah i figure that's why. it does stick out tho and leads me to my other complaint. i've only watched ep1 but i felt they spelled out some things like this that didn't matter that much, when other parts were way more convoluted and hard to follow, just based on cryptic rapidfire dialogue.

still v much enjoyed the start though, for a first ep that wasn't bad at all.

It's worth sticking with. Episode 4 was great.

There are a few instances where character background exposition is a little clunky, even if its delivered in Milchian dialogue. I think in regards to the pick 6 thing, the complicated nature was part of the world-building and was also not entirely significant to enjoying the race itself (they explained what they needed to happen easily enough to know who they were rooting for).

plenty of people yell out the numbers, it's how you place your bet at the betting window ($5 to win on the 2, etc)

could be a difference of habits in U.S. racegoers vs European I guess

also kinda carries an implication that you're either A) an inexperienced bettor who plays random numbers and birthdays or B) an experienced bettor who plays every singe race every single day. either way you can't be bothered to learn all the names and just know "I've got the 4 in this one"

definitely would always place my bet quoting or writing the number, for sure, it's not even legal not to do so i think here.

but i guess yeah for hardcore gamblers it's not like they'd be thinking hugely of the name of the horse. though would they be saying "go 8" at all instead of just "come on" or "go" or whatever?

it just felt a bit odd to me, i've prob been to race meetings 40/50 times but not for a few years now.

the other thing is, at irish/uk meetings you have this v distinctive tannoy commentating on the race which says the horse's name constantly, i think that prompts people to respond with the horse's name as he mentions it making a move or whatever.

obv this would be weird in the show, but do us tracks have that? the nasal quality and distinctively tunnely audio is probably one of the stand-out essential things you hear at a race meeting in ireland/uk.

like literally the exact way the announcer says "white flag is raised... and there off" is like it's been systematically taught to each one.

I think they use the real Santa Anita track announcer in this show during some of the race sequences. Trevor Denman. He's an Aussie.

Not sure if that's exactly what you're talking about though.

though would they be saying "go 8" at all instead of just "come on" or "go" or whatever?

I dunno, people yell all kindsa stuff. horse's name, the number, jockey's name, random string of profanities (if losing)

i need subtitles for this show

was it just me or was there a snippet of the heat soundtrack used near end of first episode?

feel like there probably is a small female viewing base for this just based on subject matter

― johnny crunch, Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:36 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark

even smaller after the violent breakdown in the first ep

i kind of want pt anderson to direct a few episodes

i like how much the show lets/makes hoffman & farina be like legit old men

was surprised the guys tshirts were "Foray" stables, thought it was talked abt as four A & also thought theyd go for that misunderstanding joke

some of the dialogue after the dude takes the valium & his convo w/ jerry was not good

This show is a boring waste of time.

you're a boring waste of time, time wasting boring person

nb i have not watched the last episode so it could have gone to shit

first episode was pretty good; show is mostly people mumbling and then going to sleep

Caught up now. Genuinely moving episode.

Also it took place over two days. I was all 'wtf milch'.

Yeah I loved the last one, no stakes-raising, just quiet moments getting to know a bunch of the characters better. Richard Kind is killing it.

SYNTAX

you knew that claim wasn't going to work out but I'm glad they didn't kill off the horse

http://skreened.com/render-product/c/y/w/cywakgayiuaeasvfvizv/image.w174h200f3.jpg

their stable design is p sweet

was i just in a bad mood or was this the worst episode?

it was cool seeing the prisoners w/ horses farm though.

bad mood imo

They've shut down production on Season 2 because a third horse died.

well, they've suspended filming with horses

right the way I understood is not filming racing scenes but can film the actors

the latest death seems like bad luck. the horse reared, flipped, and hit its head while being led by a groom. didn't happen on set but it was a horse slated to be used on set.

I don't know much about the circumstances behind the two horses that died filming season 1.

they should retool the show, make it about racing speedboats instead.

Luck, brought to you by Elmer's

or they could make it brechtian and just have dudes wearing horse suits running around the track.

xpost LOL shit

Release from HBO:: "David Milch and Michael Mann together with HBO have decided to cease all future production on the series LUCK"

:---------------(

^long face

fuuuuuuuuuck

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hbo-cancels-luck-horse-death-peta-dustin-hoffman-300201

Woah.

Nelly.

http://cordjefferson.tumblr.com/post/19312807665/hbo-ends-luck-after-horse-deaths

http://rlv.zcache.com/vintage_horse_horseshoe_greeting_card-p137217590912012058z7suj_400.jpg

The smug reaction to this on twitter is making me so furious.

Is there any sense of how far they got into shooting season two?

Poor Milch.