OAKLAND

i mean, when i said that i really just meant that i don't wanna move to a neighborhood that is clearly in the middle of it. i'm still just going to take what i can get.

def look at the crimespotting map, and the map on akm's link. Fruitvale by and large will be fine, even much of west oakland will probably suit your needs. The deep east has alot of problems, crimewise, mostly due to gang turf wars.

Fruitvale by and large will be fine, even much of west oakland will probably suit your needs.

Probably transportation (what form you will have and what form you will need) should be a major factor in deciding where to live. Also, having your bike stolen or car stolen/broken into is a rite of passage as far as Oakland residency goes.

true

i'm planning on busing there and then buying cheap bikes as often as i need to

zachlyon, i don't know where you're coming from... but if you can afford anything up to $600/month, you'll be fine. i've never paid more than 430$ in oakland. i currently pay $330, i'm very close to BART, and my neighborhood is safe enough. (i also most work odd-jobs and shit, haven't had a 'real' job in more than a year, partly by choice and partly because the economy blows).

$330 sounds great. i'm paying $467 right now and would probably require something lower. what kind of living situation is it (house, apartment, etc)?

no offense, T, but didn't some dude get gunned down right around the corner from your place, like, a couple months ago? And the little kid that got shot in the parking lot, that was right by where you live too, right?

he did say safe enough.

safe enough if you don't mind seeing dead bodies around the corner from your home!

yeah, but in his defense (or in oakland's defense?) most people would consider where i used to live (around the corner from the parkway) "safe enough," and a dude got gunned down in the grocery store parking lot a block or so away, police once cordoned off an entire street because a gunman had taken hostages in a nearby apartment building, my apartment got broken into and robbed, and the video store on the corner got held up multiple times.

have paid in the $550 - $1000/mo. range for any number of neighborhoods ranging from 'desirable' to 'risky' and have seen/heard people shot and killed in all of them, on the street, on the doorstep, next door, around the corner, etc. so I don't really know how this is measured?
South Berkeley/Oakland border was the only one where this didn't happen actually.

a dude got gunned down in south berkeley in broad daylight like a month ago!

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what up Oakland

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What up is that I may be stuck in the East Bay

Take the ferry!

what is that

i'm moving to oakland in august, what up oakland

West Oakland BART station on fire

in other Oakland news today - FBI violent crime stats indicate Oakland is the 4th most dangerous city in America and the most dangerous city in California.

Move to North Oakland, "the hottest zip code in the country" (94608)

i am flying into oakland tonight

94608 is also the zip code for Emeryville - possibly the most square footage of big box chain retail per capita.

Awesome = ilx Oakland visitors/new people!

Emeryville is so weird

a "city" where nobody lives, but everybody shops!

Yeah alot of my mail is addressed to E'ville. (xp)

took me two hours to get from my place near the lake to downtown sf this morning. thanks bart fire.

fate was kind and my weekly SF work night was yesterday and not today.

FBI violent crime stats indicate Oakland is the 4th most dangerous city in America and the most dangerous city in California.

since when is this news?!?

Emeryville is like the Delaware of the Bay area.

oakland's not quite EPA but the one time i visited someone at the acorn projects i heard gunshots three times in two hours

emeryville is the most depressing place in east bay imo

At least Cafe Biere is there. Try spending a day in Rodeo.

xp - we were at 6th most dangerous for several years. we're moving on up!

ok, good point. for some reason in my mind the east bay is bounded by richmond and hayward on the N/S and the hayward fault / berkeley hills / contra costa range on the east

rodeo and all those random places like dublin and pleasanton and antioch fall into the same category in my mind as tracy and gilroy

antioch and gilroy are very similar. n.b. gilroy is where i spent the first 17 years of my life.

That must have been...something. (Folks are in Carmel, know San Juan Bautista well enough.)

home of garlic ice cream

xp - my parents are from Monterey; most of the extended family live there. My dad's dad, stepmom, and half-brother lived in Carmel when I was growing up. Carmel seemed really really boring.

Fwiw, good dining here: Plum

Carmel is indeed very somnolent. But as I have always had that somnolent side, no worries. Dad grew up there, he and mom moved there in 1994 so it's become home by default.

It took Ytth about 2 hours total to get to SoMa this morning (including walking to bart and then walking home again).

Plum used to be a decent cheap chinese place. R.I.P.

xp Ned: so I don't need to ask if you went to Carmel High w/my dad's half-bro

Hahah not I -- Dad was Navy, I mostly grew up in San Diego. My dad himself went to Carmel High, though, class of '58. His goal was to teach there but another position opened up elsewhere and he did his years of teaching work with them instead.

ned i thought you mostly grew up in coronado, NOT san diego

i could probably deal w/ gilroy, you're real close to santa cruz and san jose

coronado aka NOT SAN DIEGO

My grandfather taught at the Navy School.

Us versus the barbarian hinterlands of Not Coronado.

Keep in mind that when I think of San Diego County these days I just think of Escondido fundamentalist racists.

Navy School is great, BTW, love how they just took over a hotel in WWII and said 'fuck it, ours now.'