Rolling like tumble weed Afro-Latin music thread 2012 (salsa, cumbia, reggaeton, tribal guarachero, etc.)

Plus too much Latin jazz.

I don't WANT the three underscored with a heavy drum thud. Why? Why do they do that?

Deforms the rhythm, imo.

How is this album not quintessentially timba?

Twenty posts of me complaining about a genre nobody on ILM cares about.

And "Mambo Number Cero" is just inexcusable.

Twenty posts of me complaining about a genre nobody on ILM cares about.

― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, February 19, 2012 10:01 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

fwiw, i loled

ha.

Could have been worse, whiney or deej could have taken an interest.

Might be DJing next week in London - planning to go heavy on the reggaeton. Any great new electro-cumbia songs i should be thinking about playing as well?

What reggaeton are you listening to these days?

Poppier stuff, for the most part - RKM & Ken Y, Daddy Yankee, Xavi The Destroyer, De la Ghetto, Calle 13, Kendo Kaponi, Farruko, etc.

Sorry, I haven't heard anything along the lines of what you're looking for. I haven't figured out how to keep up with cumbia, or much of anything outside a narrow range of Latin music.

i'd check out some of dj dus or disquedj for cumbia

Thanks!

Ng La Banda

Not to start trouble (and there's no right or wrong), but I listened to a few songs from them from a different recent album on Spotify this morning, and uh, I do not have the antipathy to their timba sound that Rudiph does. Is "Mis 22 anos" on Spotify? I did not see it but perhaps missed it. Or is it elsewhere?

It is elsewhere.

W. DC area loves Fruko's live tribute to Joe Arroyo:

http://eventosvippass.com/2012/02/feb-24-fruko-y-sus-tesos-martin-elias-diaz-el-boqueron-ii/?nggpage=2

Just meant to show one photo showing jam-packed crowd

Did anyone post this blog's cumbia post last year? If so, sorry

http://generationbass.com/2011/10/15/sexxy-saturday-cumbia-zzk-fauna-and-much-more/

http://blog.afropop.org/2012/02/spotlight-dj-juan-datas-bondi-blaster.html

more cumbia

message from Descarga:

Fania in Flux ...Again
Observant salsa collectors out there have probably noticed that the Fania reissue program at Codigo music has, pretty much, hit a brick wall. According to our calculations, except for compilations and a few packages (ie Asalto Navideño and Our Latin Thing), it has been seven or eight months since any official reissues have been released. To make matters worse, some of the Codigo reissues which have been released are already out-of-print and unavailable. The reason, we have learned, is that Codigo's distribution is changing hands. This means that until the new distributor (Red) begins to release product, the existing stock will start to quickly dry up and disappear. We could be wrong, but it sounds like the reissue program will be, once again, starting from scratch. Sound familiar? The same thing has occurred twice within recent memory. First, in 2005, when Emusica bought Fania from the Masucci family, and, second, when Codigo purchased the label from Emusica in 2009. At one time (pre-2005) the nearly 1500 title catalog was readily available on cd. Since then, only a few hundred titles have seen the light of day. Hard times for both retailers and collectors, indeed.
We will do our best to keep you posted as more details about the Fania reissue program unfold. In the meantime, you might consider stocking up on titles you are missing. They might disappear for a long time... - Descarga

Having money for CDs is mostly a thing of the past for me, at this point.

Sorry.

In other news:

http://latinmusic.about.com/b/2012/02/28/billboard-latin-music-awards-announce-list-of-finalists.htm?nl=1

http://www.billboardevents.com/latin/billboard-latin-music-awards

"Don Omar and Pitbull, Bachata stars Prince Royce and Romeo Santos, the Mexican Rock band Mana, and Latin Pop superstar Shakira are this year's top nominees."

over these awards i've quit caring it's been repeating for like a decade now

Should I care about these folks or Charlie Zaa?

Artist of the Year, New
- Calibre 50 (Disa)
- Il Volo (Opera Blues/Gatica/Rentor/Geffen/Universal Music Latino/UMLE)
- La Adictiva Banda San Jose de Mesillas (Sony Music Latin)
- Violento (Entourage/Disa/ASL)

Charlie Zaa is Colombian and has put out some things that are okay, but just okay, at least from what I remember. I don't swear by any of that.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/altlatino/2011/11/02/141933577/-que-rico-funky-new-songs-from-puerto-rico-mexico-and-new-york-city

Note to self--check out Puerto Rican artist Mima, who works with Rita Indiana on her latest

not latin but real good to further down see dj raff get a mention on npr! part of the forefront of chilean hip-hop i've been digging for a while now, not sure why puello is the only one that gets any respect

(not latin as in traditional afro-latin music)

I dont want to force feed anyone but each of the tracks on the NG La Banda is 6-7 mins long and they take you on a journey through Timba / Salsa / Cha Cha Cha / Songo / Charanga / Boogaloo and lots of other good stuff, you just have to get past the timba. And the timba is salsero friendly if you give it a chance.

This is probably the best sampler available;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X8J95njNsE

I'm not a great fan of Bloque 53 but they did drop one very hot tune back in 2010. La Surursal SA, also out of Barcelona, are the ones, both their CD's are top drawer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj0tIHZw3_8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tSf2fkk-8k

Interesting to see Frucko mentioned up there, he's been recording new stuff recently due for release later this year, aparently it's going to be a Banco Popular type thing for Fuentes.

Have you guys seen the Joe Arroyo TV soap series, it's really great

http://www.novelasdetv.com/2011/06/capitulos-de-el-joe-la-leyenda.html

And the timba is salsero friendly if you give it a chance.

Got a feeling 90%+ of U.S. salseros would disagee with you there. Of course, you have the built-in excuse of: well then you didn't really give it a chance.

I may have gotten Bloque 53 mixed up with La Surursal SA.

(But I still welcome your talking up the NG La Banda album!)

Listening to the Michael Stuart album, Sentimiento de un Rumbero, from a few years back, which I had summarily decided not to bother with based on quickie audio clips. So far, "Lola" is actually pretty decent. I would dance to this. 2007? Has it been that long already since this came out?

This is, alas, probably about as good as commercial salsa gets nowadays.

I really am not crazy about the random (not really random--but pointless) throw-away snare drum (?) crashes. Suspect this is a timba influence.

Given the album title, it would be nice to have something a lot harder.

Don't be all "rumbero" and then stick to a bunch of 90s RMM style salsa touches.

uh oh, you're doing it again ;)

actually i heard a song on the radio today that was so fast that it made me kinda nauseated to listen to it -- i don't remember much about the song aside from "mueve mueve mueve te" and the fact that i disliked it

ALSO

this is more folk latin music than dance latin music, but the lomax archives have put up full songs and i have really been enjoying the Dominican Republic 1967 recordings a lot. Stream here: http://research.culturalequity.org/get-audio-ix.do?ix=recording&id=10304&idType=sessionId&sortBy=abc

actually i heard a song on the radio today that was so fast that it made me kinda nauseated to listen to it -- i don't remember much about the song aside from "mueve mueve mueve te" and the fact that i disliked it

Oddly, I think I might know the song just from that sketchy description (except I don't know the song title or artist--but it sounds like something folded into one of the tribal guarachero mixes I have).

What is that type of music so I can avoid it? It was awful!

Honestly the last time I had an almost allergic reaction to a piece of music was when I heard "Put a Donk on It"
Usually I am very open minded and will listen to almost anything once.

I don't know what type of music I'd call that song. I'm not 100% sure it's the same song, because it doesn't seem that extremely fast, but it's kind of fast and I can see how it could make someone sick.

And the problem with looking for a song with the words "mueve te" is, well, pretty obvious.

of course

if i have the misfortune to hear it again i'll make sure to remember more about the lyrics !!

i can only think of a reggaeton mueve te

good luck searching for a song called mueve te! Too fast can be good though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Agky60Ae3vI

I don't want to ever hear it again tbh, so I don't plan on searching for it!

Orlando Marín, Puerto Rican timbale player and bandleader (who once played with Eddie Palmieri) is still performing as I just read a mention of his Wednesday night the 21st gig in a Ned Sublette email. He supposedly will have a big band with him--Doors / DJ 6:30, 1st set at 8. The Crystal Ballroom at Taíno Towers, 123rd near 2nd. South side of 123rd, entrance by where it says "Harlem Prep Charter School." Elevator to the 4th floor. Ned says the following Wednesday it's charanga night feat. Orq. Broadway with Eddie Zervigón.

He was entertaining when I saw him down here in Arlington, VA years ago.