Homosexuality and Hip-Hop : The Gay Rapper Thread

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haha

also watch any interview w/ rocky and he says "no homo" like 20 times

illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

that big freedia performance is awesome

haha this was pretty terrible tbh

plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Sunday, 19 February 2012 10:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe I shouldn't talk shit about sissy bounce on the homosexuality and hip-hop thread tho

plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Sunday, 19 February 2012 10:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

omg the full text of that asap rocky thing

The Reverend, Sunday, 19 February 2012 20:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://vimeo.com/37148523

The Reverend, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 06:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

never really got into blanco, had seen her around parties in persona and it's a turn off for me (tired of homo events inherently having to revolve around drag) so i haven't really paid much attention to the rap, dig that clip a lot though. mostly just because i love/hate that she managed to reference dren from splice and the doom generation in one take.

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, i totally share your wariness about drag as cultural cornerstone (but not as an artform), but i don't see what that has to do with her music. i had, for a while been under the impression she was fulltime trans, but i guess not.

in other news (and i'm not going to link to that garbage), apparently at least one half of yo majesty really hates jews.

marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Monday, 27 February 2012 21:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol i've been following max and rizzla on this but don't care to jump in

fauxmarc, Monday, 27 February 2012 21:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

this song is OLD AS DUST (was on my best of 2008 list iirc lol) but they just made a video for it for some reason:

also, MISS PRADA >>>>>>>> :

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Monday, 5 March 2012 06:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

katz in the guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/shortcuts/2012/mar/07/rap-urban

sort of lame article "with fashion and music closer than ever" but anyway

fauxmarc, Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Finally listening to the Ddm Winter and the Tinman's Heart mixtape and 'Fake Girls' interpolates MakeUp by Vanity 6 and it's <3 <3 <3

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 11 March 2012 18:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's def my favorite song on the tape

The Reverend, Sunday, 11 March 2012 22:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://soundcloud.com/le1f/mindbody

The Reverend, Monday, 19 March 2012 04:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hmmm, looks like Dark York is finally coming out in April.

The Reverend, Monday, 19 March 2012 04:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't know who Dark York is but that certainly doesn't sound like the name of a straight rapper

some dude, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dark York is Le1f's album.

The Reverend, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

just making a dad joke about the phrase "coming out" bruh

some dude, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh, right :)

The Reverend, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maino On Rappers: "Some of These Guys Got to be Gay"

some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I <3 Maino

hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Big article on Mykki, House of Ladosha, Le1f, Zebra Katz, Cakes da Killa, etc. in Pitchfork today: http://pitchfork.com/features/articles/8793-we-invented-swag/

Guffawed at the A$AP Rocky's comment about Ghe20 Goth1k. Ridiculous!

handy ban (lou), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Someone should do an anthology of the yearly "this crop of underground gay rappers defy stereotypes" article that always seems to have a completely different crop of underground gay rappers

cum on feel the cone (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

good article; lol he got scurrrrred at gg

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

that was a good read!

i find a lot of these guys' music really interesting but only zebra katz has translated that into an undeniably great song so far.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

have you checked out house of ladosha at all? think my favorites ("hold up wait" and "tuna fish") are only on their myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/houseofladosha/music/songs?filter=featured

handy ban (lou), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i love their BMF refix but the others i heard were again...good ideas not great songs

lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

that was a good read!

i find a lot of these guys' music really interesting but only zebra katz has translated that into an undeniably great song so far.

― lex pretend, Wednesday, March 21, 2012 1:05 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i agree with this

The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

did we talk about the new diplo track/video with Nicky Da B?

♆ (gr8080), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

quite a good read

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

le1f's mixtape dark york is streaming here - http://www.thefader.com/2012/04/18/stream-le1fs-dark-york-mixtape/

turns into a download in a week.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

i shall get back to it in a week then

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

wish the vocals were produced/mixed better

40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

start a thread for this imo

hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Thursday, 19 April 2012 00:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ask and ye shall receive: Le1f - Dark York (2012): QPOC SHAKUR / #seapunk

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 19 April 2012 03:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

micah domingo - leather (produced by rizzla)

http://soundcloud.com/micahdomingo/leather

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dana, this is a strange way to stay in the closet, girl.

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2012/05/queen-latifah-to-headline-pride-event.html

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's pretty sad/offensive that anyone period performing at a pride event immediately has to have their sexuality brought up

fauxmarc, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

Latifah's kind of weird in general about being in/out. last year she exec produced a show, Single Ladies, in which she has a recurring guest role as a lesbian who claimed to have been involved w/ one of the main characters.

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

naux, faux, not when they've been in a glass closet for 20+ years.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

buying into gossip and celebrity-hounding isn't any sort of excuse for it

fauxmarc, Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

also, what fictional character someone plays on a fictional tv show on an entertainment channel should also not be fodder at all for the aforementioned gossip and celebrity-hounding

fauxmarc, Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

i wasn't saying that. i was just saying that, given the rampant speculation, her choosing to cast herself in that role was noteworthy. when i saw it i actually thought 'oh i guess she did finally come out of the closet and i must've missed it in the news' so morbs noting the pride day thing was the first recent acknowledgement i'd seen that she's not officially out. as a straight guy, i'm not going to lecture or judge gay people on the evils of speculating on the sexual orientation of celebrities, that seems like a popular pasttime and it's not really my place to say whether that's a bad thing.

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, it just propagates a homophobic environment, drawing lines between US/THEM by setting up the notion that only people of certain sexualities take up a certain job/role/creative endeavor, those just shouldn't be factors at all; yeah the gossip angle is a popular pasttime but it's a terrible one. but i think the same of spectator sports so w/e

fauxmarc, Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

lezbihonest tho, couldn't it just as well be argued that refusing to recognize signs of someone's sexuality unless they've explicitly acknowledged it is equally homophobic? (says guy who is continually frustrated that no one seems to recognize i'm gay even tho i make no effort to hide it)

hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm with Rev on this one. My issue with the ENTIRE paradigm of how we talk about this stuff is that it's based on the underlying assumption that people are straight by default and we must treat them as such until they explicitly acknowledge that they're queer.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Generally in person, I'm not down for labelling anyone's sexuality as gay, straight, bi, pan, a, or other unless they identify themselves as such, but something sits wrong with me about the default = straight, even if it's statistically more likely to be an accurate assumption.

I mean, my two options are this: either I can pick up on the signals people are sending out in terms of not only self-presentation but implied statements, comments, *vibe*, and so forth.Or I can default assume everyone is queer until proven otherwise, which in some contexts, I do. Does that mean I'll be wrong sometimes? Sure.

But while I understand that "it's pretty sad/offensive that anyone period performing at a pride event immediately has to have their sexuality brought up" is a valid statement in the sense that plenty of non-queer people can be and are supportive of the LGBT communities, I also feel like the idea that it's "offensive" requires an assumption that it's "offensive" for a straight person to have to deal with speculation that they're gay, when very few people would ever say that it's "offensive" for someone to speculate/assume that I or Rev or any other queer person is straight before being told otherwise.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

But on the other hand, speculating that people are queer based on stereotypical aspects of who they are just reinforces notions about what constitutes appropriate presentation/performance of gender and straightness or queer-ness, so this entire thing is pretty much a big mess, I suppose.

I think it's a lot easier to deal with this stuff on a personal/interpersonal level than a media/celebrity level and I suppose faux's right that the issue is that people are interested in gossip and celebrity's sex lives in ways that aren't relevant in the same way that kind of knowledge is in the context of friendships, sexual relationships, etc., but given that this sort of prurient interest isn't disappearing, we need to have a better way to discuss queerness and celebrity than 'straight until they hold a press conference or appear on the cover of People'

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

if i was a celebrity i'd be tempted not to officially come out just so i could watch everyone doing their nut "speculating" and making themselves look like twats

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Johnny Weir already played that card iirc.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

You're right, I'm just assuming that Latifah is L, the same way I'm assuming the Romneys are not really friends with the Gingriches, despite Mitt's statement the other day.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:22 (1 year ago) Permalink


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