outtake "Jaguar," on which Moon sings lead. Moon and Townshend got in a huge fight about whether or not this would go on the record. Townshend won, hence "Sunrise."
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
Armenia
― ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
'Odorono'... while The Beatles were singing about Lucy in the sky, The Stones were asking where the joint was, and The Kinks were singing about Waterloo sunsets, The Who were writing songs about chicks with stinky armpits.
― Turrican, Saturday, 18 February 2012 06:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
For those who need closure (at 2:30)http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLBF4CEBFAF6064AE2&feature=player_detailpage&v=NtnKAKgN7f8#t=150s
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 06:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
Voted "Relax" for the same reason I'd vote "Blue Jay Way" on MMT. These days I'm a sucker for droney British keyboard psych.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 February 2012 06:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
I heard this after absorbing Who's Next and their 12/17/82 Toronto show
I'm trying to figure out if I was at that show or not. I've still got the ticket stub for May 6, 1980 at Maple Leaf Gardens. I'm positive I saw them once more, but I thought it was earlier, which doesn't seem to be the case checking around online. So that may have been the other time.
― clemenza, Saturday, 18 February 2012 14:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
IIRC, back in the ancient times of AOR, none of these tracks ever got played on the radio at all except "I Can See For Miles." Whereas practically every track on Who's Next got played all the time and "Won't Get Fooled Again" would always top the annual listeners poll on WNEW-FM in NYC.
― Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hm, I guess it was only number 6 in 1987 The 1987 WNEW-FM Top 1027 Songs of All Time Listener's Poll
― Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
I've never heard anything from Who Sell Out other than "I Can See for Miles" on the radio, not even once. But I don't think I've ever heard a non-hit from any of the early albums on the radio, so it may not be any different from everything pre-Tommy in that regard. Album tracks are reserved for Who's Next, Tommy, and Quadrophenia.
― clemenza, Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yes, exactly. But also Who Are You, no?
Continuing on this radio theme I came across something about Scott Muni just now with a funny story about a John Entwistle interview. Also some other stuff including a great quote from Rosko.
― Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
Meant to post the link, which is here: http://www.areuonsomething.com/features_muni.html
― Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
If you can ever find this, it's got all (or at least most) of the original radio spots on Who Sell Out:
― clemenza, Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Never saw that website before. Seems old school and a little cheesy, will probably hurt the eyes of most posters here. Sorry, ILX!
― Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
On a totally non-Sell Out note, Keith Moon's solo record is pretty damn silly and entertaining.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Never actually got around to hearing the Petra Haden version. Let me see what I can find on the intranetz.
― Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
i've been listening to this lately, and getting to like parts of it, but a lot of it seems so thin. in comparison to 'miles', which is MASSIVE.
― j., Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
There was one track on a magazine sampler, and I ordered the CD on the back of that (only five times, maybe, that's happened)
A few places she mispronounces lyrics, as she did this purely by having the album on two tracks of a multitrack, and vocalising on all the others. (She''d not heard it before)
As you say upthread, I'd not heard any of the tracks anyplace apart from 'c4miles', until I found the double-lp version with 'quick one' for inexpensive...
The mono, eh? Will have to track it down. I know 'quick one' came out on CD in mono at first, then they found the stereo master tape and reissued it without fanfare or changing the packaging at all.
― Mark G, Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
I remember the first time I heard the album "Sunrise" really sounding spookily beautiful.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
"Sunrise" was a bit of a setlist surprise to me when I saw them in 1982.
― Steamtable Willie (WmC), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://open.spotify.com/album/5jSo2xyFarf1dPsn1mwnw6Would also like to hear some of those albums she and her siblings did with her dad of old country tunes and such. Speaking of whom, did you end up going to see Ravi Coltrane with the Jensen sisters, clemenza? I saw him once with Charlie Haden's Quartet West (although he called it "Quartet East" that night) and it was pretty cool.
― Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
No, unfortunately--a lot of marking that weekend, and the one friend who might've gone with me wasn't interested.
I've been listening to that pirate-radio compilation I posted above. Very disorienting for anyone who knows Sell Out well. Hearing the "It's smooth sailing with the highly successful sound" spot, you automatically transition to "Me and my brother were talkin' to each other" in your mind; here, the spot leads into the Sorrows' "Take a Heart."
― clemenza, Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
― dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
I've heard a lot of live Who, but can't recall them ever doing many songs from Sell Out which is a damn shame. That free-form feedback delay freak-out in the middle of Relax is a wonder to hear.
― leavethecapital, Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, that was cool. I've heard they do "Tatoo" sometimes
― Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Other than "I Can See For Miles," which they almost never played live until the 80s, the only songs from Sell Out that made it into their shows were "Tattoo" (through 1974, and a handful of times on the 1982 tour); "Relax" (on their 1968 tours, and last played as part of an end-of-show improvisation in 1976); and "Mary Anne With The Shaky Hands" (played a few times on the 1989 tour).
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
I guess I misremembered the show I saw (Birmingham AL, Nov 1982) -- they played "Tattoo" but not "Sunrise," according to thewholive.net
― Steamtable Willie (WmC), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
I was gonna say, I'd never heard of them ever doing "Sunrise" live. I think Pete's done it once or twice in his solo shows, though.
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
The final "Relax"...sort of...
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
The more i think about it the more I want to change my vote to one song, then another, then another. This is basically an entire album of hidden gems + one radio hit. Even that silly first song is amazing.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's kind of a shame they went all serious messianic rock after this. In an alternate universe the Who skipped Tommy and became like a more psychedelic and operatic Kinks.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
I was gonna say, when I first started listening to them, in line with the orthodoxy of the time that I subscribed to at the time, I embraced the youthful energy of the early hits and kept the Wagnerian bombast of the latter albums at arm's length. When I first heard this album it was kind of a third thing- almost fragile pop songs alternating with the seeming written-to-order advertising or story-explication numbers- it was almost like Sondheim. It took me a while to get used to it, but it grew to be a perennial favorite.
― Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think I like Tommy more than this album...like they own the "rock as musical" more fully there, & I think the hooks are consistently stronger there, for two albums w/o a lot of obvious singles. but I like this album a bunch too, prob gonna vote "Mary Anne"
― Euler, Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
no one voting for 'armenia city'? that song is so huge
― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
One difference between Tommy and the Sell Out era Who is during Sell Out Townshend wrote three minute pop mini-operas whereas later he needed four LP sides to accomplish the same thing. Despite that,I think The Who did bombast better than even the Zep.
Armenia is great.
― leavethecapital, Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Mmm, I don't hear any three minute pop mini-operas on this album unless you're counting "Odorono." "Rael" is almost six minutes.
― timellison, Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
Used the term opera pretty loosely there. A better way to put it might be short stories vs novels. Either way, I prefer the conciseness of Sell Out to the sprawl of Tommy.
You reminded me there's not enough love for Rael on this thread.
― leavethecapital, Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
Doesn't Rael reappear in another guise on Tommy?
― Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 20:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, "Sparks"
― Steamtable Willie (WmC), Saturday, 18 February 2012 20:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
Doesn't Rael appear in another guise on The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway?
― dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 18 February 2012 20:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
srsly tho why did they both name a songy character Rael
The "Love love love long" bit in "Our Love Was (Is)" is pretty operatic. Likewise, I could see some clown in a cape prowling around a stage to "Silas Stingy".
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
I Can't Reach You, narrowly over Armenia
― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
should poll the reissue bonus tracksmelancholia v glow girl
― i think you'd be cool to meet. i bet we'd have a lot to talk about (buzza), Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
listening again, "Sunrise" is pretty gorgeous, also want to vote for "I Can't Reach You"
lotta Pete on this album, kinda weird, guess that's one of the "talking points" of this album?
still gonna vote "Mary Anne" though I think
― Euler, Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
I sometimes think of this album in tandem with Kinks "Arthur," as both seem to build up rather eclectically to a (possible) best-ever single right around the middle and then sort-of drop off, though not in any horrible way.
I think that sentimentally I'm attached to Tatoo, and the whole album is pretty great, but have to concede that I Can See For Miles is as perfect a rock single as you could want. Probably will get undervoted due to relative overexposure.
― dlp9001, Saturday, 18 February 2012 22:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
iirc, Peter Gabriel was a massive Who fan, and named his character Rael as an homage. Also, Townshend's Rael is a place, not a person ("the womb of my religion/to me, the center of the earth").
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 22:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
The funny thing is, the Who are generally seen as not being nearly as prolific as their contemporaries, but there's at least another double album from this period lurking among the outtakes and non-LP singles/b-sides.
"Melancholia," though, is a bit of an outlier; it was recorded after Sell Out was released.
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 22:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
Like Tommy fine but the theme is kinda heavy which seems to weigh down or lessen some of the individual songs whereas here the theme is merely a kind of a framing story, allowing for these interesting little character studies or in places just being ignored altogether.
Halfway through first listen to the PH a capella cover album, the cumulative effect is pretty amazing.
― Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 February 2012 00:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
Going through the "Quadrophenia" deluxe edition notes, it seemed there was an idea to have the 'story' songs alongside some 'pop music' stuff, but they couldn't work out how to knit them together without them appearing disjointed.
― Mark G, Thursday, 23 February 2012 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
This is one of those v minor nuisances one should never even voice, but it's bothered me since the day I bought the CD that the spine saysTHE WH0 SELL OUTwith a zero in their name like it's a copy of Mechanical Animals.
― dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Thursday, 23 February 2012 15:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, I noticed that.
― Mark G, Thursday, 23 February 2012 15:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
I Can't Reach You. It always stuns me - I just stop and listen intently whenever I hear it. So, so lovely. But I admit I could have easily voted for I Can See For Miles or Armenia City In The Sky.
― Foster The Hoople (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Friday, 24 February 2012 01:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
I must confess, I haven't listened to this album for quite some time, but looking at the tracklisting now I could pick out a few tracks that would definitely go on a personal Who best-of. I did go for 'Odorono', but it could have been several tracks. I do prefer the version of 'Tattoo' on Live At Leeds though.
― Turrican, Friday, 24 February 2012 01:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:01 (10 months ago) Permalink
armenia
― da croupier, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:11 (10 months ago) Permalink
tattoo
― Iago Galdston, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:32 (10 months ago) Permalink
I Can't Reach You
― fatmamakick, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:38 (10 months ago) Permalink
― some dude, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:40 (10 months ago) Permalink
tatto
― gospodin simmel, Friday, 6 July 2012 07:23 (10 months ago) Permalink
fuck, tattoo
― gospodin simmel, Friday, 6 July 2012 07:24 (10 months ago) Permalink
And yet, there's one song that'll probably win by miles..
― Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2012 08:27 (10 months ago) Permalink
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Saturday, 7 July 2012 00:01 (10 months ago) Permalink
Actually somewhat shocked that "Sunrise" didn't get any votes.
― Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 7 July 2012 00:03 (10 months ago) Permalink
must have been a lot of lurkers, huh? don't remember ICSFM getting lots of shout outs in the thread...
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 7 July 2012 00:08 (10 months ago) Permalink
One of the rare albums I always listen to as an album, never in tracks. The sheer sound of this album, and of Piper at the Gates of Dawn, are the peak of a certain kind of big but crisp psychedelic production aesthetic that I can't describe without lapsing into metaphors from old soft drink commercials.
― Vic Perry, Saturday, 7 July 2012 01:27 (10 months ago) Permalink
don't remember ICSFM getting lots of shout outs in the thread
obvious truths don't need shoutouts
― j., Saturday, 7 July 2012 04:23 (10 months ago) Permalink
alright then!
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 7 July 2012 04:52 (10 months ago) Permalink
"Relax" is full of good life advice.
― chupacabra seeds (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 03:51 (10 months ago) Permalink
And yet, there's one song that'll probably win by miles..― Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2012 08:27 (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2012 08:27 (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That'll be five pounds, thanks.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 09:02 (10 months ago) Permalink
Heinz Baked Beans 1
nutter...
― Mark G, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 09:03 (10 months ago) Permalink
Nothing for Sunrise. Wish I'd voted for it now
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:06 (10 months ago) Permalink
Yeah that song is really hauntingly beautiful.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:13 (10 months ago) Permalink
damn no sunrise? i forgot to vote in this, but probably would've voted for that.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:17 (10 months ago) Permalink
Someone voted Odorono!
― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Truck Bombing Begins at Home (Mount Cleaners), Thursday, 12 July 2012 06:06 (10 months ago) Permalink
Why shouldn't they, it's great!
― SomeTwat from Tring (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 July 2012 10:04 (10 months ago) Permalink
Yes.
― My Elusive Memes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:09 (10 months ago) Permalink
Have been hearing "Mary Anne with the Shaky Hand" for 25-30 years and never realized the middle part was supposed to be flamenco.
― timellison, Saturday, 8 December 2012 23:32 (5 months ago) Permalink