yeah
― fauxmarc, Friday, 17 February 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
https://twitter.com/jessicasuarez/status/170945957867958272
― dave cool, Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
haha
also watch any interview w/ rocky and he says "no homo" like 20 times
― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
that big freedia performance is awesome
haha this was pretty terrible tbh
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Sunday, 19 February 2012 10:53 (twelve years ago) link
maybe I shouldn't talk shit about sissy bounce on the homosexuality and hip-hop thread tho
omg the full text of that asap rocky thing
― The Reverend, Sunday, 19 February 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
http://vimeo.com/37148523
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 06:50 (twelve years ago) link
never really got into blanco, had seen her around parties in persona and it's a turn off for me (tired of homo events inherently having to revolve around drag) so i haven't really paid much attention to the rap, dig that clip a lot though. mostly just because i love/hate that she managed to reference dren from splice and the doom generation in one take.
― fauxmarc, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i totally share your wariness about drag as cultural cornerstone (but not as an artform), but i don't see what that has to do with her music. i had, for a while been under the impression she was fulltime trans, but i guess not.
in other news (and i'm not going to link to that garbage), apparently at least one half of yo majesty really hates jews.
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Monday, 27 February 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
lol i've been following max and rizzla on this but don't care to jump in
― fauxmarc, Monday, 27 February 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
this song is OLD AS DUST (was on my best of 2008 list iirc lol) but they just made a video for it for some reason:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYOlYKkvRII
also, MISS PRADA >>>>>>>> :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHqUGfQpmcs
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Monday, 5 March 2012 06:49 (twelve years ago) link
katz in the guardianhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/music/shortcuts/2012/mar/07/rap-urban
sort of lame article "with fashion and music closer than ever" but anyway
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:33 (twelve years ago) link
Finally listening to the Ddm Winter and the Tinman's Heart mixtape and 'Fake Girls' interpolates MakeUp by Vanity 6 and it's <3 <3 <3
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 11 March 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, that's def my favorite song on the tape
― The Reverend, Sunday, 11 March 2012 22:26 (twelve years ago) link
http://soundcloud.com/le1f/mindbody
― The Reverend, Monday, 19 March 2012 04:07 (twelve years ago) link
Hmmm, looks like Dark York is finally coming out in April.
― The Reverend, Monday, 19 March 2012 04:31 (twelve years ago) link
i don't know who Dark York is but that certainly doesn't sound like the name of a straight rapper
― some dude, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
Dark York is Le1f's album.
― The Reverend, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
just making a dad joke about the phrase "coming out" bruh
― some dude, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
oh, right :)
― The Reverend, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
Maino On Rappers: "Some of These Guys Got to be Gay"
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:45 (twelve years ago) link
I <3 Maino
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
Big article on Mykki, House of Ladosha, Le1f, Zebra Katz, Cakes da Killa, etc. in Pitchfork today: http://pitchfork.com/features/articles/8793-we-invented-swag/
Guffawed at the A$AP Rocky's comment about Ghe20 Goth1k. Ridiculous!
― handy ban (lou), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link
Someone should do an anthology of the yearly "this crop of underground gay rappers defy stereotypes" article that always seems to have a completely different crop of underground gay rappers
― cum on feel the cone (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
good article; lol he got scurrrrred at gg
― fauxmarc, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
that was a good read!
i find a lot of these guys' music really interesting but only zebra katz has translated that into an undeniably great song so far.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
have you checked out house of ladosha at all? think my favorites ("hold up wait" and "tuna fish") are only on their myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/houseofladosha/music/songs?filter=featured
― handy ban (lou), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i love their BMF refix but the others i heard were again...good ideas not great songs
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
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i agree with this
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
did we talk about the new diplo track/video with Nicky Da B?
― ♆ (gr8080), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
quite a good read
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
le1f's mixtape dark york is streaming here - http://www.thefader.com/2012/04/18/stream-le1fs-dark-york-mixtape/
turns into a download in a week.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
i shall get back to it in a week then
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
wish the vocals were produced/mixed better
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
start a thread for this imo
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Thursday, 19 April 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
Ask and ye shall receive: Le1f - Dark York (2012): QPOC SHAKUR / #seapunk
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 19 April 2012 03:34 (twelve years ago) link
micah domingo - leather (produced by rizzla)
http://soundcloud.com/micahdomingo/leather
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
Dana, this is a strange way to stay in the closet, girl.
http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2012/05/queen-latifah-to-headline-pride-event.html
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
it's pretty sad/offensive that anyone period performing at a pride event immediately has to have their sexuality brought up
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
Latifah's kind of weird in general about being in/out. last year she exec produced a show, Single Ladies, in which she has a recurring guest role as a lesbian who claimed to have been involved w/ one of the main characters.
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
naux, faux, not when they've been in a glass closet for 20+ years.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link
buying into gossip and celebrity-hounding isn't any sort of excuse for it
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
also, what fictional character someone plays on a fictional tv show on an entertainment channel should also not be fodder at all for the aforementioned gossip and celebrity-hounding
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
i wasn't saying that. i was just saying that, given the rampant speculation, her choosing to cast herself in that role was noteworthy. when i saw it i actually thought 'oh i guess she did finally come out of the closet and i must've missed it in the news' so morbs noting the pride day thing was the first recent acknowledgement i'd seen that she's not officially out. as a straight guy, i'm not going to lecture or judge gay people on the evils of speculating on the sexual orientation of celebrities, that seems like a popular pasttime and it's not really my place to say whether that's a bad thing.
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, it just propagates a homophobic environment, drawing lines between US/THEM by setting up the notion that only people of certain sexualities take up a certain job/role/creative endeavor, those just shouldn't be factors at all; yeah the gossip angle is a popular pasttime but it's a terrible one. but i think the same of spectator sports so w/e
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link
lezbihonest tho, couldn't it just as well be argued that refusing to recognize signs of someone's sexuality unless they've explicitly acknowledged it is equally homophobic? (says guy who is continually frustrated that no one seems to recognize i'm gay even tho i make no effort to hide it)
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I'm with Rev on this one. My issue with the ENTIRE paradigm of how we talk about this stuff is that it's based on the underlying assumption that people are straight by default and we must treat them as such until they explicitly acknowledge that they're queer.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
Generally in person, I'm not down for labelling anyone's sexuality as gay, straight, bi, pan, a, or other unless they identify themselves as such, but something sits wrong with me about the default = straight, even if it's statistically more likely to be an accurate assumption.
I mean, my two options are this: either I can pick up on the signals people are sending out in terms of not only self-presentation but implied statements, comments, *vibe*, and so forth.Or I can default assume everyone is queer until proven otherwise, which in some contexts, I do. Does that mean I'll be wrong sometimes? Sure.
But while I understand that "it's pretty sad/offensive that anyone period performing at a pride event immediately has to have their sexuality brought up" is a valid statement in the sense that plenty of non-queer people can be and are supportive of the LGBT communities, I also feel like the idea that it's "offensive" requires an assumption that it's "offensive" for a straight person to have to deal with speculation that they're gay, when very few people would ever say that it's "offensive" for someone to speculate/assume that I or Rev or any other queer person is straight before being told otherwise.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link
But on the other hand, speculating that people are queer based on stereotypical aspects of who they are just reinforces notions about what constitutes appropriate presentation/performance of gender and straightness or queer-ness, so this entire thing is pretty much a big mess, I suppose.
I think it's a lot easier to deal with this stuff on a personal/interpersonal level than a media/celebrity level and I suppose faux's right that the issue is that people are interested in gossip and celebrity's sex lives in ways that aren't relevant in the same way that kind of knowledge is in the context of friendships, sexual relationships, etc., but given that this sort of prurient interest isn't disappearing, we need to have a better way to discuss queerness and celebrity than 'straight until they hold a press conference or appear on the cover of People'
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
if i was a celebrity i'd be tempted not to officially come out just so i could watch everyone doing their nut "speculating" and making themselves look like twats
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link