apparently the reasoning was that boys dont like princesses, so they made it john carter of mars. and girls dont like planets, so they made it just john carter
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
they wanted to avoid the taint of mars
― Cruller, Cobbler, Poffert, Pie (latebloomer), Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Martian taint is true. The New Yorker article said it was because that Mars Needs Moms movie was such a bomb.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
I saw the trailer yesterday and among all the problems I have the aliums all look like Phantom Menace/Jar-Jar animation and it's really, really skeeving me out.
Tim Riggins of Mars! Is what the movie should be called.
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
The title of the movie is terrible, but most titles that are just a person's name are terrible.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is otm, why did they take out the MARS part?? what are they thinking??
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
see the Mars Needs Moms tidbit.
― Simon H., Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
Mars Needs Moms was shit because it was a piece of overmade garbage that took a perfectly good Berkeley Breathed story and made it into something stupid. The involvement of mars was the least of it's problems!! God studio execs are such MORONS (#955,000)
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
its
didn't realize people had such strong feelings about mars needs moms.
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
people = me
I just really liked that Berkeley Breathed book. :(
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
Mars Needs Vegemite
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
I should just stay on the IA thread...
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
( <3 Ned )
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:16 (1 hour ago) Permalink
that's nuts. people really think an unrelated kid movie's flopping would affect this one?
― Cruller, Cobbler, Poffert, Pie (latebloomer), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
I only know the books tangentially (League of Extraordinary Gentlemen) but this looks GREAT.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 18 February 2012 08:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
Maybe I'm the only one, but I'm genuinely looking forward to this and thoroughly expect to enjoy it. I re-read Princess Of Mars the other day to prepare and damn, it's great.
― Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Saturday, 18 February 2012 10:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
Other than the alien animation, the rest of it does look pretty fantastic.
― getting good with gulags (beachville), Saturday, 18 February 2012 13:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
all i ever notice of the commercials for this are a sandy vista and a scruffy warrior guy, which makes me go "is this prince of persia? didn't that already come out?"
― ban opinions (reddening), Saturday, 18 February 2012 14:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
this should have been called JOHN CARTER PRINCESS OF MARS imho
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
JOHN CARTER OF MARS: A PRINCESS OF MARS: THE LEGEND OF JOHN CARTER (OF MARS)
― ban opinions (reddening), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
PRINCESS JOHN CARTER OF MARS
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
JOHN CARTER: TURN OFF THE MARS
― A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
Y'ALL READY FOR MARS?
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
A MARS A DAY HELPS YOU WORK, REST AND SLAY
― Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
ahaha
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
ha
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
buzzkill
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
And the knives really start coming out:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/21/john-carter-disney-s-quarter-billion-dollar-movie-fiasco.html
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
3 pages of industry insider gossip about kerfuffle among the money men? Will hold out for the reviews. Still, $400 million is a heckuvalot.
― watercooler challenge (ledge), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
Martian taint is true.
one for the out of context thread
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hey, they said "Titanic" would flop! They said "Avatar" would flop! Don't ever count out Cameron!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
Oh, wait, this isn't Cameron?!
In that case, consider it a tax write-off, Disney.
since it's an old book they should cut it into four parts and run it on masterpiece theater
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 17:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
HE DIDNT GET OUT OF THE COCKADOODIE CAR
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 17:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
finally watched the trailer for this:-disney seems to only have one look for their heroes-Carter looks just like Prince of Persia-looks like it'll be a whole movie of that gladiator arena scene from Attack of the clones.-doesn't look fun
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
mars needs momus
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
also how come the sky isn't all red and martiany looking
where are the communiony-looking aliens
i mean
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 21:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
I dunno, at least it's rated properly
I see all these R-rated movies like immortals and the conan reboot and wonder how much money is left on the table, they would be catnip for 12/13 yo boys
if the clash of the titans reboot did good money, can't see why this wouldn't, unless it's absolutely interminable, trailer looks cool
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 21:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
plus my 10 yo is raring to see it so
Stanton: 'You just gotta trust us.'
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
Kitsch admitted that it took him some time to understand the terminology of Barsoom — which is what Martians call their home world.“I had a white chalkboard in my house in Austin, and I was like, ‘OK, Helium .. .Zodanga … Dejah … Woola,’” Kitsch said at a low-key party after the screening. “It’s insane. It took me three-plus times to really embrace and understand what was going on. But if I don’t buy into it, neither do you.”
“I had a white chalkboard in my house in Austin, and I was like, ‘OK, Helium .. .Zodanga … Dejah … Woola,’” Kitsch said at a low-key party after the screening. “It’s insane. It took me three-plus times to really embrace and understand what was going on. But if I don’t buy into it, neither do you.”
I can imagine Kitsch wandering around repeating those words to himself for hours on end.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Still disappointed they didn't decide to be like the books and have everyone naked all the time
― Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
What in the shit
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 06:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
does his nose have its own separate face?
― anatomically illustrated treatise (reddening), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 06:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Jabba is that you?
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 07:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Woola! I love Woola. Best pet companion ever.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
anyone see the fan trailer for this?
http://geekout.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/27/fans-create-their-own-trailer-for-john-carter/?hpt=hp_bn8
(it's linked in the article). Makes the film look about 100x more interesting. Studio may have really boffed it with the dumb trailers they've been running.
― akm, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
Latest ep of the Nerdist podcast has Willem Dafoe promoting this. Worth a listen, just for its pure Dafoe-ness, even if it's frustratingly short.
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
"The quality of the film doesn't matter to the marketing"
disagree! i think its probably harder to market something that sucks ass than it is something thats good
that said the marketing was really incredibly bad on this one - as detailed in the article andrew links above, which also indicates that stanton may shoulder a lot of the blame for it
― Hungry4Ass, Friday, 25 May 2012 18:20 (11 months ago) Permalink
As long as there are requisite elements (stuff blowing up, portentous looks, maybe a funny quip but that's not necessary), then you can throw together a trailer/ad spot. Marketing was particularly bad for this one, sure, but I don't think that has to do with the quality as much as it does the content.
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Friday, 25 May 2012 18:23 (11 months ago) Permalink
I disagree about the quality of the film, but also I think that by the only yardstick that marketing cares about - will people go see it - it was a great film, the word of mouth despite the shitty campaign is what pulled it back into profit (not that any hollywood film is ever in profit etc etc)
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 25 May 2012 23:07 (11 months ago) Permalink
wait what
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Friday, 25 May 2012 23:21 (11 months ago) Permalink
what a terrible 'movie'
― lag∞n, Saturday, 26 May 2012 04:49 (11 months ago) Permalink