'John Carter,' aka the Edgar Rice Burroughs 'A Princess of Mars' adaptation

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apparently the reasoning was that boys dont like princesses, so they made it john carter of mars. and girls dont like planets, so they made it just john carter

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

they wanted to avoid the taint of mars

Cruller, Cobbler, Poffert, Pie (latebloomer), Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Martian taint is true. The New Yorker article said it was because that Mars Needs Moms movie was such a bomb.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

I saw the trailer yesterday and among all the problems I have the aliums all look like Phantom Menace/Jar-Jar animation and it's really, really skeeving me out.

Tim Riggins of Mars! Is what the movie should be called.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

The title of the movie is terrible, but most titles that are just a person's name are terrible.

― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is otm, why did they take out the MARS part?? what are they thinking??

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

see the Mars Needs Moms tidbit.

Simon H., Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mars Needs Moms was shit because it was a piece of overmade garbage that took a perfectly good Berkeley Breathed story and made it into something stupid. The involvement of mars was the least of it's problems!! God studio execs are such MORONS (#955,000)

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

its

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

didn't realize people had such strong feelings about mars needs moms.

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

people = me

I just really liked that Berkeley Breathed book. :(

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mars Needs Vegemite

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

I should just stay on the IA thread...

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

( <3 Ned )

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Martian taint is true. The New Yorker article said it was because that Mars Needs Moms movie was such a bomb.

― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:16 (1 hour ago) Permalink

that's nuts. people really think an unrelated kid movie's flopping would affect this one?

Cruller, Cobbler, Poffert, Pie (latebloomer), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

I only know the books tangentially (League of Extraordinary Gentlemen) but this looks GREAT.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 18 February 2012 08:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe I'm the only one, but I'm genuinely looking forward to this and thoroughly expect to enjoy it. I re-read Princess Of Mars the other day to prepare and damn, it's great.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Saturday, 18 February 2012 10:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Other than the alien animation, the rest of it does look pretty fantastic.

getting good with gulags (beachville), Saturday, 18 February 2012 13:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

all i ever notice of the commercials for this are a sandy vista and a scruffy warrior guy, which makes me go "is this prince of persia? didn't that already come out?"

ban opinions (reddening), Saturday, 18 February 2012 14:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

this should have been called JOHN CARTER PRINCESS OF MARS imho

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

JOHN CARTER OF MARS: A PRINCESS OF MARS: THE LEGEND OF JOHN CARTER (OF MARS)

ban opinions (reddening), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

PRINCESS JOHN CARTER OF MARS

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

JOHN CARTER: TURN OFF THE MARS

A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Y'ALL READY FOR MARS?

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

A MARS A DAY HELPS YOU WORK, REST AND SLAY

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

ahaha

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

buzzkill

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

And the knives really start coming out:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/21/john-carter-disney-s-quarter-billion-dollar-movie-fiasco.html

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 pages of industry insider gossip about kerfuffle among the money men? Will hold out for the reviews. Still, $400 million is a heckuvalot.

watercooler challenge (ledge), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Martian taint is true.

one for the out of context thread

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey, they said "Titanic" would flop! They said "Avatar" would flop! Don't ever count out Cameron!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh, wait, this isn't Cameron?!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

In that case, consider it a tax write-off, Disney.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

since it's an old book they should cut it into four parts and run it on masterpiece theater

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

HE DIDNT GET OUT OF THE COCKADOODIE CAR

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

finally watched the trailer for this:
-disney seems to only have one look for their heroes-Carter looks just like Prince of Persia
-looks like it'll be a whole movie of that gladiator arena scene from Attack of the clones.
-doesn't look fun

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

mars needs momus

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

also how come the sky isn't all red and martiany looking

where are the communiony-looking aliens

i mean

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 21:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

I dunno, at least it's rated properly

I see all these R-rated movies like immortals and the conan reboot and wonder how much money is left on the table, they would be catnip for 12/13 yo boys

if the clash of the titans reboot did good money, can't see why this wouldn't, unless it's absolutely interminable, trailer looks cool

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 21:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

plus my 10 yo is raring to see it so

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 21:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Stanton: 'You just gotta trust us.'

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kitsch admitted that it took him some time to understand the terminology of Barsoom — which is what Martians call their home world.

“I had a white chalkboard in my house in Austin, and I was like, ‘OK, Helium .. .Zodanga … Dejah … Woola,’” Kitsch said at a low-key party after the screening. “It’s insane. It took me three-plus times to really embrace and understand what was going on. But if I don’t buy into it, neither do you.”

I can imagine Kitsch wandering around repeating those words to himself for hours on end.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Still disappointed they didn't decide to be like the books and have everyone naked all the time

Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

What in the shit

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 06:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

does his nose have its own separate face?

anatomically illustrated treatise (reddening), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 06:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Jabba is that you?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 07:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Woola! I love Woola. Best pet companion ever.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 13:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyone see the fan trailer for this?

http://geekout.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/27/fans-create-their-own-trailer-for-john-carter/?hpt=hp_bn8

(it's linked in the article). Makes the film look about 100x more interesting. Studio may have really boffed it with the dumb trailers they've been running.

akm, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Latest ep of the Nerdist podcast has Willem Dafoe promoting this. Worth a listen, just for its pure Dafoe-ness, even if it's frustratingly short.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

"The quality of the film doesn't matter to the marketing"

disagree! i think its probably harder to market something that sucks ass than it is something thats good

that said the marketing was really incredibly bad on this one - as detailed in the article andrew links above, which also indicates that stanton may shoulder a lot of the blame for it

Hungry4Ass, Friday, 25 May 2012 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

As long as there are requisite elements (stuff blowing up, portentous looks, maybe a funny quip but that's not necessary), then you can throw together a trailer/ad spot. Marketing was particularly bad for this one, sure, but I don't think that has to do with the quality as much as it does the content.

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Friday, 25 May 2012 18:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

I disagree about the quality of the film, but also I think that by the only yardstick that marketing cares about - will people go see it - it was a great film, the word of mouth despite the shitty campaign is what pulled it back into profit (not that any hollywood film is ever in profit etc etc)

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 25 May 2012 23:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

wait what

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Friday, 25 May 2012 23:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

what a terrible 'movie'

lag∞n, Saturday, 26 May 2012 04:49 (2 years ago) Permalink


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