'John Carter,' aka the Edgar Rice Burroughs 'A Princess of Mars' adaptation

yes, but they could have started another "Predator ship"-style fanboy debate with this between "A Princess of Mars" and "ER"

"John Carter, MD, of Mars."

John Carter the Unstoppable Mars Machine.

haha

How the fuck do you rename something "John Carter" that has the already-awesome name "Princess of Mars".

apparently the reasoning was that boys dont like princesses, so they made it john carter of mars. and girls dont like planets, so they made it just john carter

they wanted to avoid the taint of mars

Martian taint is true. The New Yorker article said it was because that Mars Needs Moms movie was such a bomb.

I saw the trailer yesterday and among all the problems I have the aliums all look like Phantom Menace/Jar-Jar animation and it's really, really skeeving me out.

Tim Riggins of Mars! Is what the movie should be called.

The title of the movie is terrible, but most titles that are just a person's name are terrible.

― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is otm, why did they take out the MARS part?? what are they thinking??

see the Mars Needs Moms tidbit.

Mars Needs Moms was shit because it was a piece of overmade garbage that took a perfectly good Berkeley Breathed story and made it into something stupid. The involvement of mars was the least of it's problems!! God studio execs are such MORONS (#955,000)

its

didn't realize people had such strong feelings about mars needs moms.

people = me

I just really liked that Berkeley Breathed book. :(

Mars Needs Vegemite

I should just stay on the IA thread...

( <3 Ned )

Martian taint is true. The New Yorker article said it was because that Mars Needs Moms movie was such a bomb.

― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:16 (1 hour ago) Permalink

that's nuts. people really think an unrelated kid movie's flopping would affect this one?

I only know the books tangentially (League of Extraordinary Gentlemen) but this looks GREAT.

Maybe I'm the only one, but I'm genuinely looking forward to this and thoroughly expect to enjoy it. I re-read Princess Of Mars the other day to prepare and damn, it's great.

Other than the alien animation, the rest of it does look pretty fantastic.

all i ever notice of the commercials for this are a sandy vista and a scruffy warrior guy, which makes me go "is this prince of persia? didn't that already come out?"

this should have been called JOHN CARTER PRINCESS OF MARS imho

JOHN CARTER OF MARS: A PRINCESS OF MARS: THE LEGEND OF JOHN CARTER (OF MARS)

PRINCESS JOHN CARTER OF MARS

JOHN CARTER: TURN OFF THE MARS

Y'ALL READY FOR MARS?

A MARS A DAY HELPS YOU WORK, REST AND SLAY

ahaha

ha

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buzzkill

And the knives really start coming out:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/21/john-carter-disney-s-quarter-billion-dollar-movie-fiasco.html

3 pages of industry insider gossip about kerfuffle among the money men? Will hold out for the reviews. Still, $400 million is a heckuvalot.

Martian taint is true.

one for the out of context thread

Hey, they said "Titanic" would flop! They said "Avatar" would flop! Don't ever count out Cameron!

Oh, wait, this isn't Cameron?!

In that case, consider it a tax write-off, Disney.

since it's an old book they should cut it into four parts and run it on masterpiece theater

HE DIDNT GET OUT OF THE COCKADOODIE CAR

finally watched the trailer for this:
-disney seems to only have one look for their heroes-Carter looks just like Prince of Persia
-looks like it'll be a whole movie of that gladiator arena scene from Attack of the clones.
-doesn't look fun

mars needs momus

also how come the sky isn't all red and martiany looking

where are the communiony-looking aliens

i mean

I dunno, at least it's rated properly

I see all these R-rated movies like immortals and the conan reboot and wonder how much money is left on the table, they would be catnip for 12/13 yo boys

if the clash of the titans reboot did good money, can't see why this wouldn't, unless it's absolutely interminable, trailer looks cool

plus my 10 yo is raring to see it so

Stanton: 'You just gotta trust us.'

Kitsch admitted that it took him some time to understand the terminology of Barsoom — which is what Martians call their home world.

“I had a white chalkboard in my house in Austin, and I was like, ‘OK, Helium .. .Zodanga … Dejah … Woola,’” Kitsch said at a low-key party after the screening. “It’s insane. It took me three-plus times to really embrace and understand what was going on. But if I don’t buy into it, neither do you.”

I can imagine Kitsch wandering around repeating those words to himself for hours on end.

Still disappointed they didn't decide to be like the books and have everyone naked all the time

What in the shit

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Cameron cited it as an inspiration for Avatar, and I don't doubt it inspired others. But yeah, it was certainly no bankable property ten years ago or now - too old, largely forgotten

yeah "this thing inspired this other thing that you like" is not really how IP attracts audiences

The Del Rey paperbacks were how I first heard about them, and they came out...late 70s I think?

i feel like princess of mars is sort of out of fashion, partially because Edgar Rice Burroughs is also out of fashion right now (lotta racist shit in the original Tarzan), but both properties were hugely popular in their time. I remember being kinda surprised when the movie came out, though, even having been aware of the books and having read a couple a long time ago. they were in print for a long time. probably still are.

in terms of influence... they are not the very first examples of what is now called "portal fantasy", but they are early, predating the chronicles of Narnia by decades. there's definitely plenty of writing in this genre, and the idea has been used over and over again from alice in wonderland (pre-princess of mars) to stargate: atlantis to whatever.

my reaction to this coming out was kind of like... this is a movie for old men who listen to old time radio dramas and collect Amazing Stories and Weird Tales from before the 2nd world war.

still never seen it.

i still think it was a much better movie than conventional wisdom acts like it was

I'd agree, pretty much stand by everything upthread. It ain't perfect but it's often really entertaining.

Reread the first three Mars books after seeing the movie (great in IMAX), and thought the movie did a great job of capturing the spirit while tightening the plot. Besides the Star Wars prequels, was the first movie I've seen people actively dogpile on to hate, without having seen it. At least, it was the first movie I was invested in seeing, so disheartening watching it shredded. Would have appreciated a second movie.

As a kid, also loved the Green Star books by Lin Carter, which is a straight rip of the concept.

(lotta racist shit in the original Tarzan),

― ian, Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:46 AM (ten hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Surely the whole concept of the white aristocratic lord of the jungle is inherently racist from the get-go.
Quite apart from the depiction of the natives outside of that.