'John Carter,' aka the Edgar Rice Burroughs 'A Princess of Mars' adaptation

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lol i remember literally none of that

desperado, rough rider (thomp), Friday, 17 February 2012 13:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

They should have just called the movie "Carter."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 February 2012 14:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Carter: 3-D"

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 February 2012 14:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Get Carter of Mars

Brad C., Friday, 17 February 2012 14:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mars, Attacked

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Both "Mars" and "Attacked" are better names than "John Carter."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 February 2012 15:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Civil War (on Mars) (But At The Same Time, Pretty Much)

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

they really should have gotten Noah Wylie to star in this

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

you say that about every movie!!

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes, but they could have started another "Predator ship"-style fanboy debate with this between "A Princess of Mars" and "ER"

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

"John Carter, MD, of Mars."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 February 2012 15:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

John Carter the Unstoppable Mars Machine.

ledge, Friday, 17 February 2012 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

How the fuck do you rename something "John Carter" that has the already-awesome name "Princess of Mars".

getting good with gulags (beachville), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

apparently the reasoning was that boys dont like princesses, so they made it john carter of mars. and girls dont like planets, so they made it just john carter

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 17 February 2012 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

they wanted to avoid the taint of mars

Cruller, Cobbler, Poffert, Pie (latebloomer), Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Martian taint is true. The New Yorker article said it was because that Mars Needs Moms movie was such a bomb.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

I saw the trailer yesterday and among all the problems I have the aliums all look like Phantom Menace/Jar-Jar animation and it's really, really skeeving me out.

Tim Riggins of Mars! Is what the movie should be called.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

The title of the movie is terrible, but most titles that are just a person's name are terrible.

― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is otm, why did they take out the MARS part?? what are they thinking??

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

see the Mars Needs Moms tidbit.

Simon H., Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mars Needs Moms was shit because it was a piece of overmade garbage that took a perfectly good Berkeley Breathed story and made it into something stupid. The involvement of mars was the least of it's problems!! God studio execs are such MORONS (#955,000)

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

its

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

didn't realize people had such strong feelings about mars needs moms.

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

people = me

I just really liked that Berkeley Breathed book. :(

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mars Needs Vegemite

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

I should just stay on the IA thread...

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

( <3 Ned )

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Martian taint is true. The New Yorker article said it was because that Mars Needs Moms movie was such a bomb.

― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 18 February 2012 04:16 (1 hour ago) Permalink

that's nuts. people really think an unrelated kid movie's flopping would affect this one?

Cruller, Cobbler, Poffert, Pie (latebloomer), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

I only know the books tangentially (League of Extraordinary Gentlemen) but this looks GREAT.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 18 February 2012 08:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe I'm the only one, but I'm genuinely looking forward to this and thoroughly expect to enjoy it. I re-read Princess Of Mars the other day to prepare and damn, it's great.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Saturday, 18 February 2012 10:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Other than the alien animation, the rest of it does look pretty fantastic.

getting good with gulags (beachville), Saturday, 18 February 2012 13:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

all i ever notice of the commercials for this are a sandy vista and a scruffy warrior guy, which makes me go "is this prince of persia? didn't that already come out?"

ban opinions (reddening), Saturday, 18 February 2012 14:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

this should have been called JOHN CARTER PRINCESS OF MARS imho

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

JOHN CARTER OF MARS: A PRINCESS OF MARS: THE LEGEND OF JOHN CARTER (OF MARS)

ban opinions (reddening), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

PRINCESS JOHN CARTER OF MARS

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

JOHN CARTER: TURN OFF THE MARS

A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Y'ALL READY FOR MARS?

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

A MARS A DAY HELPS YOU WORK, REST AND SLAY

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

ahaha

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

buzzkill

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

And the knives really start coming out:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/21/john-carter-disney-s-quarter-billion-dollar-movie-fiasco.html

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 pages of industry insider gossip about kerfuffle among the money men? Will hold out for the reviews. Still, $400 million is a heckuvalot.

watercooler challenge (ledge), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Martian taint is true.

one for the out of context thread

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey, they said "Titanic" would flop! They said "Avatar" would flop! Don't ever count out Cameron!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh, wait, this isn't Cameron?!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

In that case, consider it a tax write-off, Disney.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

since it's an old book they should cut it into four parts and run it on masterpiece theater

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

HE DIDNT GET OUT OF THE COCKADOODIE CAR

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

sorry but that hulk crit is more tiresome and hard to follow than John Carter.

the fey monster (ledge), Friday, 25 May 2012 14:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

thats not what i meant by 'human' im talking about reacting to the humanity or lack of it in a work - the emotional content. FCH compares it to stanton's finding nemo, which is about fucking talking fish and is a million times more human than JC

Hungry4Ass, Friday, 25 May 2012 14:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

john carter was also pretty boring visually, imo

Hungry4Ass, Friday, 25 May 2012 14:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, thought the visual look of john carter was all p second-hand frazetta-isms, w/out any of frazetta's sensuality or grit

Ward Fowler, Friday, 25 May 2012 14:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Really? I thought it looked amazing - a bit of a cliche but you could really see all the money up there on the screen, showing you stuff from ERB's imagination.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 25 May 2012 14:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

give me gil kane and dave cockrum any day

Ward Fowler, Friday, 25 May 2012 14:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

i sorta dug how cartoony the tharks were, and that down-the-barrel shot of one of them aiming his funky homemade rifle reminded me of necron 99 from ralph bakshi's wizards - one of the film's few interesting images. the white apes were just like a million other CGI monsters, right down to the identikit movement set (the way these things move always only reminds you of other cgi monsters). i thought the whole thing was short on any genuine, memorable weirdness (or menace), everything felt stately and sanded down.

Hungry4Ass, Friday, 25 May 2012 15:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

I quite enjoyed the film, but I don't think you can put its failure down to its quality. It was a "flop" and a joke because of it well before it was released. Besides how often does quality really stop people from seeing a movie in droves? at least on the opening weekend.

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Friday, 25 May 2012 16:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

well yeah, it's bad and it's difficult to market

Number None, Friday, 25 May 2012 16:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

The quality of the film doesn't matter to the marketing. The problem is probably the look (silly CGI cartoony monsters, guy flying around with sword wearing a loincloth).

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Friday, 25 May 2012 16:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

"The quality of the film doesn't matter to the marketing"

disagree! i think its probably harder to market something that sucks ass than it is something thats good

that said the marketing was really incredibly bad on this one - as detailed in the article andrew links above, which also indicates that stanton may shoulder a lot of the blame for it

Hungry4Ass, Friday, 25 May 2012 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

As long as there are requisite elements (stuff blowing up, portentous looks, maybe a funny quip but that's not necessary), then you can throw together a trailer/ad spot. Marketing was particularly bad for this one, sure, but I don't think that has to do with the quality as much as it does the content.

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Friday, 25 May 2012 18:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

I disagree about the quality of the film, but also I think that by the only yardstick that marketing cares about - will people go see it - it was a great film, the word of mouth despite the shitty campaign is what pulled it back into profit (not that any hollywood film is ever in profit etc etc)

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 25 May 2012 23:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

wait what

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Friday, 25 May 2012 23:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

what a terrible 'movie'

lag∞n, Saturday, 26 May 2012 04:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

this was fucking shit

local eire man (darraghmac), Friday, 12 December 2014 22:56 (6 days ago) Permalink

VG will have your scalp or something.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 December 2014 23:09 (6 days ago) Permalink

killfile

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 13 December 2014 00:16 (5 days ago) Permalink

why is this still on my bookmarks??

Frobisher, Saturday, 13 December 2014 00:26 (5 days ago) Permalink


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