the bbc sherlock series by the dr who 'bloke' and starring tim from the office

Adam, the second episode is probably the worst in the series, you should at least watch the third one, it's much better. But if the main concept (aspie guy solves outlandish crimes with the power of deduction) doesn't grab you, that isn't gonna change, though the second series at least has more interpersonal drama.

Amazon in the UK currently has the first series on region-free blu-ray for £6. I'm guessing there's not much in the way of frills on there.

bbc dvd/blu-rays are normally pretty extra-laden (cf their doctor who discs), i know these discs have commentary tracks, at the v least

old-school Dr Who extras are largely compiled by a dedicated nerd network though, not through endemic BBC policy AFAIU. (no idea about the new series ones though)

or you know, we could google

The extras on the DVD are a little thin on the ground. There are commentaries for A Study In Pink and The Great Game, along with a short ‘behind the scenes' feature, Unlocking Sherlock, and the original 60 minute pilot. To be honest, there's little point in watching the pilot, as it's a 60 minute version of A Study In Pink, but it's nice to know that it's there.

I could go and open the one that arrived from Amazon today, but I'm too lazy.

Not to drag out the Who thing, but I just wanted to point out that as awesome a sci-fi story as it is, and arguably as good a Who episode as it is, "Blink" doesn't really introduce viewers to the Doctor?

It just takes us back to a time when Carey Mulligan wasn't a bland nonentity like she was in Drive.

:(

xp - actually I think it does! It's an intro to the Doctor from the point of view of a bright civilian, we learn what she learns, it's a little brisk but doesn't I think skip past anything you need to know, and by the end you have a decent wordcloud of him - alien, energetic, travels through time, frequently sorry.

An alternative entrypoint could be the Girl in the Fireplace, which has equally beguiling time travel tricks up its sleeve but features a lot more of the Doctor.

A little of that Doctor goes a long way :)

Isn't there a separate thread for Doctor Who?

Sorry if that sounded harsh, but it's sad to notice new posts in this thread, but when I click on it none of them are about Sherlock.

We have nothing to say until Smilin' Steve Moffatt deigns to drop the revelation bomb on us.

Tuomas we are talkin about which Dr Who eps a Sherlock fan might like. So it is sort of connected. Sorry you're bummed out tho.

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I watched Hound of the Baskervilles on the plane recently, and actually enjoyed it despite some of the cheesy bits. Cumberbatch is quite a good Sherlock! Think I will investigate more of them.

That's the weakest of all of the episodes --which is not to say I didn't enjoy it -- so I think you'd better.

Second weakest. Skip S01e02 altogether Veg.

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Trailer thingy for CBS' own Sherlock Holmes series, Elementary. Looks like a rather generic police procedural with a 'quirky' lead character - a la Monk - to me.

If I want a Yank Sherlock I'll watch House, I think.

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What is it with America casting short arse Sherlocks. Johnny Lee Miller isn't Robert Downy short but he's hardly tall and striking. (one of the reasons that Cumberbatch makes a good Sherlock)

what is it with american television and british film actors of the 90s

i keep walking past an HMV window with big boardwalk empire and mildred pierce displays with winslet and mcdonald and thinking, just, huh

Johnny Lee Miller isn't Robert Downy short but he's hardly tall and striking. (one of the reasons that Cumberbatch makes a good Sherlock)

I really don't think Cumberbatch is all that much taller than Miller, it's probably due to the costume choices. Miller is dressed like an overgrown teenager.

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Jan. 29 on these freedom-loving shores, lolling @ u, Blighty!

the BBC has the “first window” rights to air the show, so UK fans can at least take heart in knowing they will almost certainly get season 3 sometime before Jan. 19

Surely it'll be a flagship Christmas/New Year showing?

the BBC has the “first window” rights to air the show, so UK fans can at least take heart in knowing they will almost certainly get season 3 sometime before Jan. 19

USA! USA!

I liked it when Derren Brown did it, the actual explanation was more plausible but less television-y I suppose.

The episode itself was pretty good even if it owed a debt to V For Vendetta. Do we really need another series arc super-villain though? And I'm still not keen on the 'thinky time' special effects, even if they were less Minority Report this time round.

didn't think much of it really. lopsided with all the 'coming back' stuff at the beginning. editing/pace was a bit weird more generally - wooshy 'speed up/slow down' stuff over an unnecessarily prolonged motorcycle race. can't remember what colonel moran did in the original story (other than taking a shot at the silhouette of holmes? was it that one?), but big terrorism feels like it's not a great fit for sherlock. felt like an episode where a lot of stuff had to be got out of the way/set up. holmes #bantz bit overplayed. wicker man guy fawkes stuff was fun. compared to the excellent first episode of s2 (admittedly probably the best so far), it all felt badly hobbled.

use of london topography is still a strength i think - the lines of information and communication.

tho the ACD stories after holmes returns are also comparatively lumbering and clumsy, so perhaps it's cunning meta.

Well what did you all expect? This was a Gatiss episode.

Gatiss episodes still >>>>> Thompson episodes on average (esp if you count that Moffat plainly wrote much of Thompson's S2 ep)

God this was terrible. Just an appalling mess. I thought it was just the middle episodes that sucked so hard?

'elementary' lookin pretty good now huh you pseuds

Ha! I actually love 'Elementary'. Sure it's police procedural and an entirely different thing from 'Sherlock', but I'm basically cool with JLM and Lucy Liu just hanging out solving crimes. JLM is incredible in it.

was about as good/bad as any of the other mediocre episodes i thought. banter was cute. also im not sure that were meant to take the "actual" explanation as the "actual" explanation? but idk

ok - shd watch elementary. this episode of Sherlock just gets worse and worse as I think about it. a non-case only solved by the agency of the extremely unlikely figure of someone whose job it is, from home, to review tube security tapes before wiping them, who then gets in touch with Sherlock rather than his manager. is an expert on tubes, and categorically states there is nothing between two tube stations whereas in a fact there is an entire siding and station (leading nowhere - why was it built?). this is a version of the "secret passage" get-out much abhorred by golden-age crime and detection writers (Sherlock, with its methodical clues and solutions, partakes of this genre as the original Sherlock Holmes stories did much to produce it). the absence of valuable rolling stock is not noticed by anyone.

there was a lot of horrible public-school/establishment bro behaviour - present in the other episodes obviously, but probably more acceptable (if it is at all acceptable) because they are more vulnerable.

plot holes or lack of realism aren't a problem (for me anyway) as long as the emotion or entertainment conveyed is successful, but this was a total hodge-podge, designed to Holmes and Watson to do an unfunny and actually quite repulsive comedy turn.

yeah this "mystery" was one of the absolute worst in terms of plot holes

there was a lot of horrible public-school/establishment bro behaviour - present in the other episodes obviously, but probably more acceptable (if it is at all acceptable) because they are more vulnerable.

what do you mean by this?

yeah i get the mystery was going to be a minor part of the 'omg you alive' episode but Q: how does this train car disapper in between stations? there are no secret stations or passages between stations so how? A: there is a secret passage between stations! is really just too lazy

It made me want to revisit Jonathan Creek (which doesn't happen very often) to see if my memory of it combining convoluted and improbable mysteries with moderately clever solutions much better is correct.

The whole episode felt like a hook for the bantz, which might be fine if most of the bantz wasn't a tired variation on 'you are gay', 'your moustache looks silly', 'lol @ the woman who is in love with the mighty Sherlock', 'everyone's an idiot apart from me', etc, etc.