Nicki Minaj - Pink Friday

I heard Starships on the radio today and it was awful. I just gave it another play and was only mildly offended. as a Ke$ha track I'd probably give it a pass. I'll probably grow to love it.

probably.

it's kind of funny how "super bass" was like this perfect accidental synthesis of her pop crossover style and the more unique stuff people actually like her for, but instead of learning any lesson at all from its huge success she's right back to alternating between these songs that straddle those two extremes even more awkwardly than before.

https://twitter.com/#!/jawnita/status/169554944121253888

I saw the Rapradar blackout section and it made me go yeesh: http://rapradar.com

I hope she sticks it out with this album. I think it can be interesting. I can understand why people are being turned off but at the same time I have a feeling that people just want her to just fill the roles of a Lil Kim or Foxy Brown because that's how she was introduced. I love the way she raps when she just raps but at the same time, what she has been doing lately has been fascinating (even if it fails or not). I don't know. I feel like part of people's complaints is she needs to be put in her place (good ole rap sexism) or why isn't she doing things like she did six years ago (which makes no sense why you would ask anyone that question in life frankly).

But I think what bothers me about this whole Nicki thing is that the unwritten rules/expectations of hip hop for females are just so unrealistic and confining that even if all the songs were good would she receive praise or stil be lambasted because she's not being "hip hop." Even if I don't like the artist I get annoyed when people say "Such and such should stop doing this and adhere to what fans of a genre expects." And I think well who the fuck are you to say what they should and shouldn't do? God forbid this person doesn't fit into your fantasy world of expectations and idol worship.

tl;dr version: I still hope her original vision is intact for this album because even if it is a failure it still can be interesting to see a female rapper go this far image & music wise.

it's kind of funny how "super bass" was like this perfect accidental synthesis of her pop crossover style and the more unique stuff people actually like her for, but instead of learning any lesson at all from its huge success she's right back to alternating between these songs that straddle those two extremes even more awkwardly than before.

― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:30 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think starships is definitely still crossover, vocals on the verse esp, maybe less so than super bass but a lot more than turn me on

I hope she sticks it out with this album. I think it can be interesting. I can understand why people are being turned off but at the same time I have a feeling that people just want her to just fill the roles of a Lil Kim or Foxy Brown because that's how she was introduced.

― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:01 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is completely inaccurate

But I think what bothers me about this whole Nicki thing is that the unwritten rules/expectations of hip hop for females are just so unrealistic and confining that even if all the songs were good would she receive praise or stil be lambasted because she's not being "hip hop." Even if I don't like the artist I get annoyed when people say "Such and such should stop doing this and adhere to what fans of a genre expects." And I think well who the fuck are you to say what they should and shouldn't do? God forbid this person doesn't fit into your fantasy world of expectations and idol worship.

tl;dr version: I still hope her original vision is intact for this album because even if it is a failure it still can be interesting to see a female rapper go this far image & music wise.

― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:01 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

how about it filling their expectations for making worthwhile hip-hop music instead of turning into Flo Rida

this is completely inaccurate

Um dude she did her own version of the Lil Kim photo and The Jump Off song. Uh yeah for a second she looked like she was going to fill that role for Young Money.

how about it filling their expectations for making worthwhile hip-hop music instead of turning into Flo Rida

Well she said from the jump off that she wanted to be more than just hip hop so she warned her fans. Also, Stupid Hoe and Roman in Moscow and that other song on the grammys dont' sound like any Flo Rida song I've ever heard of.

Plus, what is worthwhile hip hop music lately? Because to me that phrase has lost its meaning to me.

*Because that phrase has lost its meaning to me.* Ugh.

i hate all of your opinions and think you are 100% wrong about them

Ok so?

nicki posing like a lil kim poster & covering the jump off does not = her entire output is basically lil kim pt. 2

she broke out w/ mizay ent., working w/ gucci circa 09 before she was known as a part of young money & this was when her best stuff was dropping

her warning us that she wants to be "more" than hip-hop doesn't mean that fans cant be disappointed by that choice! the flo rida comparison was obv about the new song

and read the regional thug thread if you want to know about worthwhile hip hop because there is tons of it

i still like 'massive attack' more than 'super bass' by quite a wide margin.

jesus talk about overreacting.

i guess on the one hand it's easy to understand why she's doing what she's doing... her fanbase has grown and it's not like she's been ostracized from the hip-hop world or something. i guess everyone would like a new "super bass" seing as that's the song that really blasted her into superstardom, but if she's having her cake and eating it too there's no real reason for her to change what she's doing

but the music is largely complete shit, yes

should i start the WE ARE THE 1% tumblr for gays, women and non-whites that don't fuck with nicki's katy perry songs

it's getting hilarious how deej keeps saying "mizay" in reverent hushed tones

I have no problem conceptually with Nicki Minaj doing a Katy Perry pastiche; I have a problem with the actual pastiche sounding like dogshit.

^^ this, although more broadly i do have a problem with Nicki singing because she sounds awful

eh, she usually sounds okay if the guide vocal isn't loud enough to clash with her live vocals; she's never off enough to be entirely out of key, unlike say Rihanna (who apparently can only sing "We Found Love" in key live)

it's okay to think someone's singing is awful without it being about anything strictly technical

I didn't say it wasn't, I just disagreed and said why.

the things she does on the choruses of "Moment 4 Life" and "Right Thru Me" and "Turn Me On" are just blood-curdling to me. love the bridge of "Super Bass" though.

it's getting hilarious how deej keeps saying "mizay" in reverent hushed tones

― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Friday, February 17, 2012 7:44 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

huh?

im just saying, its apparent listening to her '09 era mixtapes, when lex first really started pushing her, that she fell off far from those -- i underrated those at the time or her new stuff is that much worse

you're the only person in the world who gives a fuck who a rapper's manager is or acts as if it has any bearing on their music afaict

...i'm not, thats absurd, but i was referring to the 'mizay era' as a time period, not as if mizay was the secret ghostwriter or something. wtf is up your ass constantly

i assumed this bump would be because of her new song rather than deej continuing a minor argument from a week ago smh

anyway i quite like "roman reloaded" (TAKE YOU BITCHES TO SCHOOL TEN I COLUMBINE THESE HOES) but i have no idea how all these tracks are gonna fit together as an album

*THEN

it's not as good as "stupid hoe" though

agreed on both counts

I think she might be one of the most talented MCs destined never to make a great album.

that's a long list...but she's at the top of "never destined to make even a good album"

oh cool, a wayne verse

xp Ha, yes, probably true.

pink friday juuuuuust about counts as a good album imo

three stars, if i'd reviewed it

beam me up scotty = 4 stars! i don't privilege "official albums" over "mixtapes" if the quality of the latter is sufficient

i like this remix rather a lot... glosses over the most egregrious parts of "starships"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0meUtXFXMg&fmt=18

certainly a vast improvement at least. chorus is properly huge...

"roman's reloaded" = pretty good i guess? bit of a non-event, except that columbine lyric which is a bit wtf should that really be an ok thing to say idk :/

a nickname i have for magdalena rybarikova is "columbine", after an infamous photo of her holding a runners-up trophy and looking like she wants to gun down the entire world.

(sentences no one in this thread except uberweiss will understand)

searched for that imagine and nearly jumped out of my seat :/

http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/p1/20110924/07/2290743792.jpg

bone-chilling

erm searched for that imagine

OMG WTF IS WRONG WITH MEEEEEEEEEEEEE

IMAGE

ahaha that's not even the picture i was thinking of but it's even better

from her junior wimbledon days

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/LordFlasheart/RybarikovaWozniacki.jpg

yes, the identity of the girl with the sunshine smile next to her makes it that much worse.

"I must break you"

http://i42.tinypic.com/2i1mdxy.jpg

that can't be the real cover right?

oh but it can

it's missing a colon, and yet it's totally ass