hint: he is not famous for his looks
― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
he was nominated for a grammy last week
― ⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
invented sick drops iirc
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.)
I know it's an awful look but it helps to relate to his audience. The music has little to none personality so you have to trust the way he looks to know it must be your thing if you're into the industrial-goth-angst crowd. If he dressed like a guido the only thing that would change would be his audience, the music would remain mostly the same.
― Moka, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:13 (twelve years ago) link
hey moka people love his music
― ⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:18 (twelve years ago) link
his music is ok, it's his hair that's fucking horrible
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
his "look" isn't really distinctive tho, moka
― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
his hair is ridiculous and he wears big glasses but the only reason ppl use him as a touchstone for those things is bcuz he's famous for his music
Yes I suppose they do, but that's not what I'm arguing... it's, why him? there's thousands of dubstep artists right now that sound pretty much the same. It's hard to differentiate them by sound so I'm thinking this guy is branding himself better than the others. The look and personality you portray are more important than music itself. He's a pop icon now, no? Anyone following the popscene more than 10 minutes can tell it's more about style than content.
― Moka, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
Although to be perfectly honest I haven't been following the scene so maybe he was in fact a pioneer of sorts and the others are copycats of him.
― Moka, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:23 (twelve years ago) link
moka this shit isnt that hard
― ⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
I've only noticed how much of a preset it is since on hypem's popular tracks there's always at least 3 or 4 remixes that use this sound.
If you login today per example there's some guys called Nero, Flux Pavillion, Skrillex and Datsik on the top 20 and maybe I'm becoming old but if you played them to me without knowing who they are I'd think they're all the same guy.
― Moka, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
Those are all Aphex Twin side projects iirc
― sleepingbag, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:31 (twelve years ago) link
those other guys are popular for their music too and no one knows what they look like
― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:41 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, Skrillex's distinctive look helps with his branding and all that, but he became famous, first and formost, for his music. I knew his music for like a year before I ever saw a picture of him.
― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
although I did have rather bemused reaction upon finding out: is it brostep?
― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
You are right, I'm overthinking it. I was just honestly surprised to see he won 3 grammys and all the hype surrounding him when I had no idea he was that popular outside the blogosphere. You rarely see electronic artists get this famous in the US. He just sounded very cheesy and generic to me, but that never stopped Coldplay from becoming world-famous.
― Moka, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
You rarely see electronic artists get this famous in the US.
Did you enjoy your three-year nap?
― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/NNuUZ.jpg
― ⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
C'mon Tiesto became famous in the US like a decade after Europe. Even Latinamerica got Tiesto before the states.
― Moka, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
Turned on the radio lately? Not a lot of singer-songwriter solo guitarist types on pop radio.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 16 February 2012 00:34 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, tiesto is a bad example for the reasons moka said. however,
http://afromonk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Deadmau5.jpg
― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Thursday, 16 February 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
deadmau5 just reinforces what I said before. The way the artist looks helps his fame more than the way he sounds. At least in usa.
― Moka, Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:33 (twelve years ago) link
Moka, you are just digging yourself a deeper hole here.
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:35 (twelve years ago) link
The halloween theory... There's a corelation here: If you can dress as them in Halloween and people get who you are, your chances of becoming famous increases. That's one of the reasons why artists like say Moby, Deadmau5 and Skrillex are more succesful than their peers.
― Moka, Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:37 (twelve years ago) link
That is absolutely ridiculous.
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:38 (twelve years ago) link
Populism is absolutely ridiculous.
― Moka, Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:40 (twelve years ago) link
How many pop icons with an unassuming image can you think of?
― Moka, Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:41 (twelve years ago) link
as opposed as
― Moka, Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:42 (twelve years ago) link
The halloween theory...
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:42 (twelve years ago) link
Think about it, it's pretty cool. Before propelling yourself into pop stardom you have to think "would people dress like my alter ego in halloween?".
― Moka, Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:44 (twelve years ago) link
Would Skrillex be less famous if his alias were Sonny Moore and he looked like this?:
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_loc8raubVG1qf0dk7.jpg
That is not a good Hallowen costume.
― Moka, Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:47 (twelve years ago) link
moka i think you just cracked the da vinci code of popular music
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:48 (twelve years ago) link
those halloweens past when EVERYONE was dressed like Moby
― I DIED, Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:49 (twelve years ago) link
u have to have the look, and the sound, and the moxie
― sleepingbag, Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:50 (twelve years ago) link
think abt it
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:52 (twelve years ago) link
burial would be skrillex in america now if he looked like an emo tween instead of a 'bloke'
― D-40, Thursday, 16 February 2012 04:25 (twelve years ago) link
thats completely false btw just continuing the lols
blokestep vs halloweenstep
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 February 2012 04:31 (twelve years ago) link
it's, why him? there's thousands of dubstep artists right now that sound pretty much the same
but most of them aren't as good at writing the big cheesy pop hooks that go inbetween the 'sick drops'
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Thursday, 16 February 2012 04:42 (twelve years ago) link
scrillex got famous because his music is used for all the youtubed noscope vids
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 16 February 2012 04:47 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b92tVQld5J8&feature=related
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 16 February 2012 04:50 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyTFx2QxIwU&feature=related
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 16 February 2012 04:53 (twelve years ago) link
Moka is perfectly correct and what he is saying is obvious about pop music, in fact it is so obvious that I feel like everyone is saying "duh" to themselves then trolling him on here for fun? Though, yes, you have to also have compelling or slightly memorable music as well.
― Evan, Thursday, 16 February 2012 04:56 (twelve years ago) link
moka is female fyi
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:03 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry!
― Evan, Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:11 (twelve years ago) link
Apologies, Moka.
― Evan, Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:16 (twelve years ago) link
Nah don't worry. And yes they're trolling me but I'm also not very good at expressing myself. It's pop music 101.
― Moka, Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:20 (twelve years ago) link
It's a little bit image, but I would guess that a fair number of people passing on Skrillex music have no idea what the dude looks like. I mean, the "lol american electronic music" comparison is The Crystal Method and definitely no one remembers what those dudes look like.
Other acts of that stature who have done well in the US? Well, arguably, the reason this dude has done so well this time around is due to the fact pop music is definitely well into this type of sound -- notable pop artists have remixes in this style, and electro-ridden crap is huge with popular music either having acid squelches in their songs or remixes, dudes like LMFAO making a pop success of it, or people who sound like eurovision stars gaining prominence in the US pop charts.
So you have a bass music undercurrent that Skrillex isn't completely divorced from, the idea of "dubstep" (whether it relates to the original version or not) being a genre with some traction, especially among post-breakbeat and crap dnb US people, and pop music being into electro sounds culminating in popular acclaim for this dude who pretty much typifies the young person coming up with pretty shallow stuff.
idk, I'm cynical
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 16 February 2012 06:32 (twelve years ago) link
moka i am not trolling when i say this thread may be of some use:
is it brostep?
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 February 2012 06:40 (twelve years ago) link