Oh no, I have an (admittedly resistable) urge to buy Prince's "Emancipation" set!

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wtf are your ears broken, Come is fantastic

^likes black girls (HI DERE), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link

the only terrible Prince album is Rave Un2 The Fantastic (haven't heard the Jehovah Witness one with Najee).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I dunno, I like the sound of Come, but as far as songwriting is concerned, it is weak for a Prince album. The only really memorable tune is "Space".

Tuomas, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link

and "Come" and "Loose" and "Pheremone" and "Papa" and "Letigo" and u are crazy

^likes black girls (HI DERE), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Tuomas Rave Un2 He Crazee

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Come is easily my favorite of his 90s albums and actually the only one out of all of his albums that I pull out on a regular basis.

^likes black girls (HI DERE), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm with Dan on this one.

Eric H., Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link

diamonds and pearls is his best 90s warners album, song for song. so many strong tunes. come is cool, and solid, but its more of a low key sleeper album. and for a short album its still got its fair share of dudness.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

U MAD!

"Jughead" and "Push" are terrible songs!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Agreed on Come being brilliant.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I always forget that Ned is a Prince fan!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

theyre bad lol, obviously. but theres still the title song, strolling, walk dont walk, get off, cream, money dont matter...

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

"Strolling" is pretty ungood after the novelty wears off.

Eric H., Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean, "Money Don't Matter 2Night," "Cream," "Strolling," "Thunder," and "Willing and Able" are enough to redeem it, but any track on which Tony B or Michael Suck or whoever the fuck that fourth-rate rapper is gets a fair shake is terrible.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

best tracks on come -
"Space" – 4:28
"Papa" – 2:48
"Dark" – 6:10
"Solo" – 3:48
"Letitgo" – 5:32

best tracks on D&P -
"Daddy Pop" – 5:17 (sans the rap)
"Diamonds and Pearls" – 4:45
"Cream" – 4:13
"Strollin'" – 3:47
"Willing and Able" – 5:00 (again, without tony m)
"Gett Off" – 4:31
"Walk Don't Walk" – 3:07
"Money Don't Matter 2 Night" – 4:47
"Insatiable" – 6:39

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

i am going to go out on a limb here and say that the best prince album of the 90s is Exodus by the New Power Generation. and yes i am completely serious.

R. L. Stinebeck (John Justen), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't get with anyone who doesn't like "Come."

Eric H., Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

also if you replace get off with the original 10 min version D&P gets even better. ;)

warners should do a prince in the 90s best of. would prob be good for a reasessment of that decade.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

(I see that thinking about Tony M has caused my grammar to crumble)

I keep thinking there's a mix of "Live 4 Love" preferable to the final version.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I always forget that Ned is a Prince fan!

Good lord, man, how could I not be?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link

As for this album, I'm only really partial to the house tunes -- "The Human Body" and "Sleep Around" -- dated though they may be.

Eric H., Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link

slave is a cool song on this too.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Disc 2 of Emancipation is pretty awesome. Some of his best ever love ballads/slow jams on here.

BTW, Come is infinitely better than D&P.

Capitaine Jay Vee, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Diamonds and Pearls has some good tunes (Cream, Gett Off, Willing & Able, Strollin'), but I'd say the Love Symbol album is the best Prince album of the 90s. It's kinda like a better version of D&P: the funk is deeper, the dance numbers are more hard-hitting, and the pop tunes more catchy.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link

love the love symbol album

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link

If only Prince had included the 12" version of Gett Off and a couple of the better B sides ("Loveleft, Loveright" and "Violet Organ Grinder") on D&P instead of generic, formless tunes like "Live 4 Love", "Push", and "Insatiable"...

Tuomas, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I think on the Love Symbol album Prince found an enjoyable mid-point between his unique 80s sound and a more mainstream dance/r'n'b/rap production. With Emancipation the sound went kinda too much to the slick direction, and that process was finalized with Rave In2 the Joy Fantastic.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

the best prince albums of the 90s are really the black album and the crystal ball set ;)

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

am i the only person on this thread who has heard NPG Exodus? i know its hard to find now, but now im wondering if it ever got much outside of MPLS/STPL

R. L. Stinebeck (John Justen), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link

get wild was kind of corny but i liked good life.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I have Exodus hidden in my house somewhere, I will have to look.

^likes black girls (HI DERE), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't have Exodus :(

Yes, if it counts, Crystal Ball stands tall.

Eric H., Wednesday, 7 January 2009 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Listening to Emancipation now thanks to this thread. Echoing Alfred's comment upthread, I also find something new to love each time I put this on. "Saviour" is it right now.

Capitaine Jay Vee, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link

the songs on this new lotus flower site about about as bad as anything prince has ever done:

http://www.lotusflow3r.com/

ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 19:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, pretty terrible. Nice use of his classic Linn sound at the top of one of the songs there but then it devolves to some sub-"My Name Is Prince" boasting. And that "Crimson And Clover" cover is foul. The free track "PFunk" that popped up a year or two back seems to be the last decent thing he's put out.

Capitaine Jay Vee, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link

i didn't even know he had a new one coming out. maybe it'll be bad (i was not feeling Planet Earth), but i still stand by 3121 so i know he's got it in him.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

That reminds me, I still haven't gotten myself a copy of 3121 even thought I've meant to do that for ages. Is the rest of that album as good as "Black Sweat"?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link

hmmm

While those four tracks will appear on Lotus Flowe3r - considered to be the guitar album of the trio - MPLSOUND will explore Prince’s classic funk while Elixir will showcase a collaboration with Bria Valente. Perhaps more intriguing about this ambitious undertaking is it’s been reported that Prince has said he will self-release all three albums. For all his out-of-the-box methods, this move should come as no surprise as Prince has been more than vocal over his distaste for the music industry. At this point, though, the Purple One has gone full-blown rogue by setting up a new site, Lotusflow3r.com - still under construction though three new tracks from each upcoming album have been posted for streaming - where fans can purchase music, concert tickets and such.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link

his production these days sounds really cheap. i dont think he should explore his 'classic funk' anymore. unless its via archive releases.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Tuomas, I really, really liked about half of 3121. Other half was not bad.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link

You know what song I just realized I should play a lot more of? "Cinnamon Girl"

^likes black girls (HI DERE), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

YES. And "Chelsea Rodgers" off the last one.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link

"Chelsea Rodgers" is the only Prince song I've truly liked over the course of the last three albums. "Black Sweat" was a close call, but not quite.

Eric H., Wednesday, 7 January 2009 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Come is THE overlooked Prince album. Batman is kinda close.
I will cop to being mistaken on 'One of Us'; I thought Prince wrote it.
Never quite got Planet Earth, but 3121 has the title track, Incense and Candles and Black Sweat which is the best thing Prince has released in years.

now we are using our shovels to bury our dead (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

That song does sound like Prince shoulda wrote it.

ilx chilton (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

How have I missed this thread till now? Jeez.

A project I've always wanted to make for myself: find all the reviews of new '90s Prince albums that pronounced him as "back" or it as "his best since Sign O' the Times" (RS on I'm Going to Change My Name to the Title of This Album, Charles Shaar Murray in Q talking about Chaos & Disorder) or if it was Greil Marcus talking about Come in Artforum, since Dirty Mind.

Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic is completely unmemorable. I loathe The Rainbow Children, and Dan doesn't. And I adore Emancipation--need to re-acquire it on the cheap sometime soon, I think, it's been long enough.

Matos W.K., Monday, 12 January 2009 02:57 (fifteen years ago) link

secret hits on 3121: 'lolita', 'love', 'satisfied'

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 12 January 2009 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link

New Wendy & Lisa has a couple of great tunes. "Balloon" is one.

Capitaine Jay Vee, Monday, 12 January 2009 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Never did get around to actually playing this!

Mark G, Monday, 12 January 2009 08:08 (fifteen years ago) link

disc two >>>>>

― ivy.

second side of Disc Two.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 21:35 (five months ago) link

will no 1 stan for "Emale"

― Neanderthal, Sunday, April 24, 2016 4:47 PM (seven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

*raises hand*

I just risked visiting www.emale.com on my work computer to discover that "The owner of emale.com is offering it for sale for an asking price of 485000 EUR!"

J. Sam, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 22:41 (five months ago) link

this is a weird album. every time i try to make it a single or double album, it doesnt work really. i think its cos while a good 75% of it is very good, theres no real amazing highlights on there, or no 'big' standouts apart from the covers (one of us is still one of the best things he did in the 90s, and well, ever, the most perfect cover he ever picked). its also really fussily engineered and produced, theres not a note out of place. i guess that makes it both state of the art in 96, but also just a bit... sterile? as an album/playlist, i like to make it start with slave, and end with emancipation, but i find both tracks a bit of a bore really, even though it makes sense to have them there to create an album kind of experience (and this an album that needs to be an album as it doesnt have many big peaks). i love sleep around but its too long, and needed a proper house remix. it is his one true 90s rnb album, def more conservative in many ways for him, but i think he lost something in the process, just cos trying to be a more pure (relatively speaking) rnb artist wasnt really prince i think, even though he did try to cleave more to that as he got older. but this was the last time he was trying to sound current maybe, until the art official age album (which i like more, and was maybe the best late period album he did).

midnightmarauder, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 17:05 (five months ago) link


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