Depeche Mode Tour Films POLL

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I'm not much of Depeche Mode fan and 101 is one of my favorite movies period. Captures being a fan and being in a band so amazingly well. Love it.

john. a resident of chicago., Monday, 13 February 2012 00:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Three of the tour bus group got featured in "where are they now" clips on the DVD rerelease. One of them, Oliver, is better known now as the Horrorist.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 February 2012 00:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

And yes the fact that DJP and Mr Justen STILL haven't seen this, OMG WTF.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 February 2012 00:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

You Tube is a frickin goldmine for DM 101 era

piscesx, Monday, 13 February 2012 00:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 13 February 2012 01:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

"101" is such a great film, underscoring both the power of being a fan and a band on the cusp of giant things. The group is so young and still figuring their way around things. But then you see them perform and how the fans react and it all makes sense. My favorite bit of the film comes at the end, when the band is basking in Rose Bowl adulation, and the management team is in a trailer, doing the math, adding up the mundane minutia of costs, such as replacing damaged portions of the grass field. Just incredible all around, a totally neutral snapshot of an era when you could be selling out stadiums and still exist/subsist somewhat under the radar. I know Pennebaker has often cited it as his favorite, and that really says something.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 February 2012 01:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Always thought this captured it well

john. a resident of chicago., Monday, 13 February 2012 01:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just read some DM bio and it was interesting to me how passive they were, aesthetically and everything, in their early years. Like figuring out who they were but muddled by having not very well-aligned people do the figuring out for them and just not being willing to speak up! I think they'd gotten over that hump by the time 101/Music for the Masses was out, enough to have some really gripping confidence and excellent songs. But also still had the exciting potential to grown and change more. I like Violator & everything after but I think 101 is a great document of what is really my favorite era of DM.

high five delivery device (Abbbottt), Monday, 13 February 2012 01:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

high five delivery device (Abbbottt), Monday, 13 February 2012 01:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

I know Pennebaker has often cited it as his favorite, and that really says something.

Rightfully so, I think. All the other ones he did in the sixties/early seventies are all weighted down by the continuing Boomer grip on things so contextually 101 feels fresher, but also it dwells on things the others really don't. And by not making it about The Great Artist Whoever It is it also succeeds as well -- heck, given how everything works, people might be forgiven for thinking that Gahan is the lyricist and Alan Wilder writes the music.

There was a typically dismissive Rolling Stone review when it was released in early 1989 going on about the band being anonymous cyborgs and not caring about the featured teens, along with wondering how Pennebaker could have stooped to this. Talk about not getting it.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 February 2012 02:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

One of them, Oliver, is better known now as the Horrorist.

holy shit!! the guy with the amazingly styled hair and soft sad eyes, who didn't want one of the girls to put her face cream on him? !!!!!!!!!!!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 February 2012 10:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

The guy that made records about trawling NY for drugs? And using said drugs to make underage girls more 'compliant' ?

(Obv saying these were 'character studies', not his actual MO)

Mark G, Monday, 13 February 2012 10:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yes to both of that. In the 101 DVD bonus clip talking with him, there's a brief shot of a feature story or review of him done by Simon Reynolds, which I always thought was amusing.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

When Alan McGee started up his multimedia "Poptones" label/website, one of his 'missives' was raving about "One night in NYC", I couldn't help thinking "If it's that great, then LICENSE IT ya pussiah!"

Mark G, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

that whole conversation between the jock and the girl who was studying to be a fashion designer brought back a lot of memories. a lot of time was spent in those days differentiating between what was REAL and what was SUPERFICIAL and FAKE. the visual punchline to that conversation was absolutely priceless - after this long, incoherent rant to these (incredibly appealing) girls about how fashion is FAKE and not "art", which is REAL (QED), talking over them the whole time and totally ignoring what they're saying, they finally get a word in edgewise: "so what are YOU wearing? what's that?" "cut off jeans! i've been wearing cut off jeans for 15 years!" and he turns and walks away and you see the cut-offs, which reach his knees and are actually CUFFED there, probably the doofiest possible legwear imaginable, and the girls just crack up

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

What was that last line to the camera, "He knows nothing about fashion, right?" Something like that.

I keep going on about the DVD version -- trust me, it's great -- but the commentary gets some priceless moments in; it's Pennebaker and his partner, whose name I am sadly forgetting, talking with each of the three current members as stitched together from separate sessions, and when they get to that part they're loving the whole debate for pretty much all the reasons you just specified! Except maybe the jeans part, can't recall.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha i will have to get the DVD! i mean all else aside it is just a leeetle ironic that the jock has such a profound attachment to his idea that visual style is utterly worthless while at the same time his favorite band is..... depeche mode.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

The whole series of contrasts over who is supposed to be a 'typical' Depeche fan as set against anyone else is a hilarious/telling subtext of the entire film. The truck stop denizens, the Latino Guns'n'Roses fans...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

"guns and posers! haha! haha! guns and posers."

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Our own Mr. Soto has now seen and believed:

http://humanizingthevacuum.wordpress.com/2012/02/14/theyll-go-down-on-their-knees-depeche-mode-101/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

best part of that whole argument with the art girl and the guy is that, at the start of the Rose Bowl gig near the end the 2 of them look very cosy, she's got his arm round him and they're dancing together! it's cute!

piscesx, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Depeche crosses all boundaries.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

One of my favourite moments in 101 is the hysterical screaming chick during 'Blasphemous Rumours'. Man, she's a bit intense isn't she!? I wonder what she thinks whenever she watches herself on 101 these days.

Turrican, Friday, 17 February 2012 21:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

The whole series of contrasts over who is supposed to be a 'typical' Depeche fan as set against anyone else is a hilarious/telling subtext of the entire film. The truck stop denizens, the Latino Guns'n'Roses fans...

― Ned Raggett, Monday, February 13, 2012 4:42 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"guns and posers! haha! haha! guns and posers."

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, February 13, 2012 4:53 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Didn't that guy meet Axl Rose at the premiere of 101? I remember hearing some hilarious story about it.

Turrican, Friday, 17 February 2012 22:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

If I had been voting in this poll at the time it would have been a very very tough choice between 101 and Devotional. Touring The Angel is my favourite of the post-Wilder tourfilms (Great setlist, love the stage design), whereas I've always found One Night In Paris a bit on the dull side, not just because the setlist is (at it obviously would be) a bit 'Exciter'-heavy (an album I've never really liked), but the way it's filmed makes the shows seem really bland. I went to one of the 'Exciter' shows in the UK and my dad went to the shows in Paris, and both of us felt the same way about the film.

To put it simply, One Night In Paris doesn't make me want to BE there. Whereas when I watch 101, Devotional or Touring The Angel, they make me kick myself that I wasn't able to attend.

Turrican, Friday, 17 February 2012 22:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Showed 101 for a friend last night who had never seen it and has been a Depeche fan for years. I still can't believe the amount of people who you'd think would have seen it by now but still haven't LIKE DJP AND JJJ FOR INSTANCE but anyway. Anyway, still fantastic, will never not be.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

101 concert, 25 years old as of tomorrow.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 June 2013 18:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

watched 101 for the first time. i did not know about the audience arm-wavey thing. so dorky and so beautiful. left and right and left and right and left and right and left and right...

slugbuggy, Friday, 22 August 2014 05:30 (1 week ago) Permalink

A friend of mine back in 1992 or so said it looked like those films of seafloor plants you see where the currents drag them to and fro.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 August 2014 12:47 (1 week ago) Permalink

i've since watched many youtube clips of subsequent live versions of never let me down again and it's <3 <3 <3 how happy it makes gahan to do this. he gets to wear the metaphorical trousers and he's digging it.

is the rose bowl show the first time they've played to an audience that large, anywhere? there's some stuff tom wolfe discusses in electric kool-aid acid test (iirc) vis-à-vis the beatles and stadium crowds and gahan twigs that in an instant during this song. the placement is perfect. workmanlike brick-laying with the clunky rhythms and plink-plonky melody, holding you down tight, then rumbling tremors and dissociation with the middle section from the remix version, and then release! and transcendence with the synth angel chorus. hands! hands! to the heavens, to the stars! take that energy and throw it right back, magnified. see the stars they're shining bright, everything is all right tonight. we'll see the stars that shine so bright, everything will be all right, tonight. i figure the iggy references are a given but i dunno. i'm taking a ride with my best friend; i am a passenger.

i love those dickhead kids in the movie and i miss them already.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 23 August 2014 09:12 (1 week ago) Permalink

pretty boys and pretty girls
spreading joy to the world

these fucking kids, i love how the doc inverts the fan/ performer dichotomy. the kids/ fans are awesome; the band are there to provide the backdrop. those kids were more excited to have been in the audience than they were when they met actually their idols: tbf it was alan and andy not martin or dave.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 23 August 2014 09:51 (1 week ago) Permalink

i think hat was def a better decision than no hat. so cute.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 23 August 2014 11:06 (1 week ago) Permalink

liveblogging from 1988

slugbuggy, Saturday, 23 August 2014 11:15 (1 week ago) Permalink

Had an interesting experience a couple of years ago showing 101 for the first time to someone who pretty much hates DM, or at least hates everything from DM after 101 and therefore had not listened to the band at all in decades. He was really blown away by it, both as a film and as a document.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 August 2014 19:03 (1 week ago) Permalink

is the rose bowl show the first time they've played to an audience that large, anywhere?

Yup, pretty much. I'd have to check their gig history to see if they played larger festivals in Europe -- always a possibility -- and they had had a huge wave already in Germany but I'm pretty sure this was their then top limit. (IIRC the Dodger Stadium shows just two years later for Violator were even bigger...I think.)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 August 2014 19:26 (1 week ago) Permalink

Time to rewatch some of these, it's been a while. "One Night in Paris" seems to get better with time. Corbijn is directing their next DVD too.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 24 August 2014 10:40 (1 week ago) Permalink

My favourite part of "101" is the first two minutes of this clip. I could watch it on a loop all day.

It's so amazing to see the insane crowd anticipation together with the "long walk" of the band, they're trying to be cool about the whole thing for the cameras but you can see that they're nervous as hell. For me it's the most revealing moment of the film.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 24 August 2014 10:47 (1 week ago) Permalink

The most revealing moment of the film for me is when the band is riding high on the monumental success of the night, while the manager and other business folks are bunkered down sussing out the cost of turf replacement and the like.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 August 2014 12:18 (1 week ago) Permalink

Watching "devotional" again, I can totally see the recipe for disaster. Band at or near the peak of its popularity, Gahan out there away from the rest of the band, with nowhere to hide, carrying almost all of the performance himself ... I can only imagine the pressure he was under, let alone the pressure to be a "rock star."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 August 2014 02:53 (1 week ago) Permalink

He was carrying the performance himself in "101" too. "Devotional" is the culmination of that process, not the start of it. But moving to LA and hanging out with "real" rock stars and wanting to be one himself obviously didn't help.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 25 August 2014 07:38 (1 week ago) Permalink

Been a while since I saw "101," but in "Devotional," he can't even make eye contact with the band! It seems like a more extreme version of, yes, the ascent that began around "101." So a culmination, sure, but the staging appears to go above and beyond to isolate him.

I've read funny accounts from Charlie Watts about what it's like the be stuck back on the drum stool while the stages get bigger and bigger and wider and wider. Basically, he just goes about his business, and every once in a while someone runs in front of him. Or he'll go several songs without knowing where Mick even is.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 August 2014 11:39 (1 week ago) Permalink


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