Rolling Metal Thread 2012

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yes, it is!

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

"dead haze"

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mercyful Fate and Death are always being played in the spotify/soundrop metal room and I've been really digging it. I need to hear more. Where's the best place to start?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 11 February 2012 19:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh man dude those are two of my favorite bands ever. the first two Mercyful Fate albums, Melissa and Don't Break the Oath, are absolute metal canon in my book. People's mileage varies with later stuff but to me In the Shadows is totally in the same class as those earlier two and Time is pretty fucking great; the first two songs on it are among my favorite MF songs ever, especially "Angel of Light," all-time jam right there.

According to me every Death album is worth getting but which ones you like best will vary according to what it is you like about them. Human was the first proper death metal album I ever heard so that was my entry; it's when they're starting to get really proggy/tech-y. Still love that and Symbolic best I think. But the earlier ones, Spiritual Healing, Leprosy, and Scream Bloody Gore, those are all good, too - there's more audible bridges between those & thrash imo, whereas when you get to Human, they're becoming a band who are sort of off in their own world, which is how Chuck's been described to me by people who were in the Tampa scene at the time - he just did his own thing, was sort of apart from the scene.

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

really good rundown on the Death discography at the band's website - explains the various lineups. Human is basically Chuck S. & the guys from Cynic, which at that time in metal history is to my ears a pretty perfect meeting of minds

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

quite proggy then?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, pretty breakneck prog though - the speed never lets up. the next one, individual thought patterns, features Andy LaRoque - guitarist from the King Diamond band! Do read that linked rundown, it's really a great concise history.

but do get those first two Mercyful Fate albums without delay, they're the business

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

(I should be clear, when I say prog I'm thinking of progressive death, which is kind of its own genre - it owes clear debts to 70s prog but doesn't really sound like it at all)

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i get what you mean. prog but not flashy for the hell of it stuff?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

but do get those first two Mercyful Fate albums without delay, they're the business

Absolutely, it simply doesn't get any better than those two albums. Don't Break the Oath has some of the most insane riffing you will ever hear.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

is the high pitched stuff constant or just now and again?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

King's voice is all over the place on those records, but yeah, you'd have to get used to the high-pitched stuff. He times those moments brilliantly.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, don't break the oath really is one of the best metal albums there is. and the riffs will prob hook you but you'll grow to love king diamond's vox, AG.

plus, it's on spotify. not much to lose here. listen to it!

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey also check out the Mercyful Fate EP (included on "The Beginning") too cause that's got some classic jams. When I didn't really care for King's voice that was the record that kind of eased me into their style.

the box cutter killer from the calcutta gutter (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 12 February 2012 06:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Finally got to see Yob last night. Well worth the wait of years for Nate to book a date on a weekend within 200 miles of me.

I think the biggest surprise to me was not how incredibly heavy they got on occasion, but how often they grooved like hell as they amped up from the glacial segments. The rhythm section doesn't exactly swing, but the have a fine lock groove that isn't as apparent on record. Mike was also in fine voice, effortlessly going from a growl to a screeching howl to a clean melodic tone.

If they weren't the best live band I've seen in recent years it's only because Ludicra were so damn good.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 12 February 2012 23:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

the lock grooves are my favorite parts on the records!

j., Monday, 13 February 2012 00:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

They're so much more prevalent live. Almost vamping.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 February 2012 00:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Everybody needs some YOB in their life!

And absolutely the first two Mercyful Fates as well. Meeeeeliiiiissssaaaa!!!

Nate Carson, Monday, 13 February 2012 09:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

pfunkboy -

I wrote a long review of Death's Human a few months ago - here's a link.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 00:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just discovered Mercyful Fate this past weekend; I found Don't Break the Oath on vinyl and took a chance. HOLY SHIT. How did I live without this band?! The guitar work blows my face off. I've listened to the record about five times since I picked it up.

Clarke B., Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Coincidentally I listened to "Melissa" for the first time the other day too. It was good, I need to re-listen to it!

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 09:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Did Ghost play I'm A Marionette by ABBA on their recent US tour?

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 22:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY!

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 22:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Holy shit. I saw Vektor for the first time last night. Hands down one of the best metal bands out there. They are gonna be (deservedly) huge.

Here's footage from the show, at a tiny bar on a Monday night. Packed.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 06:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's exciting! i really like 'outer isolation' and was wondering whether they could pull that sort of thing off live. (similiar sorta incredulity as to when i first heard absu) seems like they can. hope they come to the uk soon.

cb, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 13:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

no ABBA songs at the ghost show i went to - just the full album + the here comes the sun cover

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

So Maiden's touring again this summer. Skipping my part of the world, but I'm fully prepared to go elsewhere to see this one. I missed the '88 Canadian tour (with GNR opening) for the same reason, so it'd be nice to see them revisiting that chapter in the band's history.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 22:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm very excited about this tour. It'll be my sixth time seeing them, but I'm very much looking forward to hearing this particular set of songs. I like Seventh Son a fair amount.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 22:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

the next one, individual thought patterns, features Andy LaRoque - guitarist from the King Diamond band!

That, and it is one of the all time best metal records ever made.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 22:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thanks jjjusten.

I'm watching Mayhem for the first time in Oslo on Saturday night.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Thursday, 16 February 2012 07:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Alice Cooper and Kvelertak are holding the flag for metal at Bonnaroo this year. (Honorary mention to Bad Brains and Battles) And that's about it.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 16 February 2012 11:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Isn't Danzig playing too?

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Japanese sludge! I know you guys are into that: http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featured/the-lazarus-pit-greenmachines-d-a-m-n/

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 17 February 2012 20:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

My first Rhapsody metal roundup of 2012. (Caveats: [1] I only really "recommend" the top three; [2] two albums technically came out in 2011; [3] six reviews were written by other people.)

http://www.rhapsody.com/blog/2012/02/metal

Otherwise, have been totally immersing myself in Small Stone Records stuff from the past few years. Surprised by how much I'm liking a lot of it.

xhuxk, Friday, 17 February 2012 20:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also, fwiw, I like the Devil's Blood album as much as any of those, but Rhapsody doesn't seem to be carrying it (at least not yet), and I like Christian Mistress even more than Devil's Blood but it's not out yet. Iron Fire and Steel Wing, both of which I actually reviewed, would have been in the Top 5 of that roundup if I was allowed to include them, but they're for-sale-only (no streaming), which makes them off-limits for Roundups/Staff Picks/etc. And Orange Goblin would've been in the top 5, too, but it came out too late; will save that for next time.

xhuxk, Friday, 17 February 2012 20:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm at by:larm in Oslo. As well as a very enjoyable death metal group called Execration, I just saw an awesome grindcore band called Beaten To Death - so good live.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Friday, 17 February 2012 22:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

I had the greatest time at by:larm. Be sure to visit Neseblod Records! I miss Oslo dearly.

A. Begrand, Friday, 17 February 2012 22:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've already been this year! Picked up Execration on vinyl... I was going to get a Dark Throne hoodie but everything only goes up to L; skinny, good looking Norwegian bastards. (I love going to Norway and I'm getting to round the trip off with Nekromantheon, Arabrot and Mayhem tomorrow - good times.)

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 18 February 2012 01:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

I am listening to the new Emmure album. It's good. Better than their last one, maybe, and I put that one on my Pazz & Jop ballot for 2011.

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Great line up coming up tonight in Oslo: Beaten To Death, Arabrot, Necromantheon, Mayhem and then Lindstrom.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

fav metal album from last year finally getting a vinyl release

http://babel-label.bandcamp.com/album/i-vi

Crackle Box, Sunday, 19 February 2012 15:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Been going in the metal room with frobisher viceroy and sean wayne during the day (when noones in outloud) and its kinda funny seeing what the almost real world listens to. Kids especially think metal should be fast otherwise its 'not metal'. Not 'not my think' or 'crap' but 'not metal. But the same kids listen to bullet for my valentine ,Avenged sevenfold , emmure or trivium, one of whom said while Mercyful Fate was on 'this isn't metal'. And smithy,it was the few people into Isis and Boris who were the ones who sprung to the kings defence!

Main stuff played in there is Slayer/slipknot/maiden/ozzy/sabbath/pantera/lamb of god/opeth/meshuggah/Death/Carcass/machine head/sepultura and Megadeth. plus the underground stuff but the main acts i mentioned get played and the same tracks get voted up as soon as theyve finished. Mainstream metal songs seem to be a small gene pool in there.
As i said metalcore gets played but is frowned upon. But there really is a big gap between the 16 year olds into metalcore/deathcore and the actual metalheads (there's no hipster metallers in there apart from us 3 ilxors!! haha).

Anyway irl do you guys come across kids into just the same stuff as i mentioned or do any listen to black/death/doom/grind/thrash? or even what you term as hipster metal?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not 'not my thing'

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

when i say mainstream metal gene pool is small i mean the choices of bands/songs not the actual metallers, they are the largest amount obviously

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

The thing that most surprises me is that mainstream metallers, who are not kids, but guys in their 20s , don't listen to either a) a varied amount of genres and b) a lot of bands instead they listen to the same dozen or so that everyone else does. I thought with the internet and choice they would be devouring more music but it doesn't seem to be the case. And many of them say they only listen to metal - modern mainstream and classic (ie slayer,metallica,megadeth and 90s - yes 90s is classic era now). So it's not like they are listening to other music so have less time for other metal bands.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Anyway if this should be a thread of it's own rather than here i shall start it

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

if i could think of a good title

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

What happened to Cannibal Corpse cover art? I continue to be really disappointed with it since Kill.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

The song titles aren't as creative, either – there are a few good ones like "Intestinal Crank" and "Followed Home Then Killed," but nothing nearly as gut churning as the classic stuff.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:01 (2 years ago) Permalink


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