Oops - I linked to the wrong story.
Here's the Richard O'Sullivan one
― Alba, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Actor gets old. Let's take a close look at his wrinkly old face. Wot a loser!
― Not me I'm the Emotional Type (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link
But yeah, that was the first one I clicked on as well...
http://blogs.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ianwylie/2007/04/emmerdale_paula_wilcox.html
balance.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:24 (fifteen years ago) link
All those juicy Femail stories boxed down the right!
Royal! Man has shave.Nostalgia! Man grows older; looks different.Diet! Ex-EastEnder has new publicist.Tits! Also with Big Brother link (This is good, keep it up - Ed)Stating the fucking obvious! Man with cancer "not exactly doing a song and dance about it"Baby! Man and woman have child.Beckhams! Man and woman still exist.Rooneys! Man and woman who had more money than you still have more money than you.
You know, I don't think I've felt this depressed in my life. I'm off to devote my life to charity.
― Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:26 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm off to devote my life to charity
Still working for the Herald then?
― Billy Dods, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:32 (fifteen years ago) link
And watching Celebrity Big Brother ...
― Alba, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Richard O'Sullivan is only 64! It's hardly that old.
― Alba, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link
lol i thought it was a myth that people in the all 'respect' the mail for its vaunted professionalism
Uh...
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:04 (fifteen years ago) link
in the print meeja
― DANCE MUSIC STUCK AT RECOMBINANT PLATEAU (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link
or just newspaper biz
the mail print a story about richard o'sullivan's decay every year, i am sure about it
― the first Woman Tuomas (stevie), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:12 (fifteen years ago) link
I LIVE HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE CLOSING CREDITS OF THREE'S COMPANY WHERE IT SAYS "BASED ON MAN ABOUT THE HOUSE". SO I DECIDED TO LOOK IT UP ON THE COMPUTOR NOT ONLY THAT I PURCHASED ALL THE EPISODES TO MAN ABOUT THE HOUSE. THE SHOW IS REALLY FUNNY AND EVEN WATCHING IT OVER AND OVER I NEVER STOP LAUGHING. FOR A FUNNY SHOW LIKE MAN ABOUT THE HOUSE, I THINK THE SHOW SHOULD HAVE RAN A COUPLE OF MORE YEARS BACK THEN. THE SHOW MAN ABOUT THE HOUSE ENDED TOO SOON FOR ME.
Posted by: CARLOS RIOS | July 13, 2008 06:45 PM
― the first Woman Tuomas (stevie), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Quite right. I wonder if Mr Rios had Richard O'Sullivan Google Alerts set up.
― Alba, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:17 (fifteen years ago) link
"alert: Richard O'Sullivan looks five minutes older than he did five minutes ago"
― snoball, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought he was top class in "Dick Turpin" BTW...
― snoball, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link
<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1109722/Men-dont-curvy-women-attractive-father-children-autism.html">Men who don't find curvy women attractive 'could father children with autism'</a>
o_0
― lex pretend, Thursday, 8 January 2009 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link
or whatever the ht stupid ml is
― lex pretend, Thursday, 8 January 2009 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Umm. As far as the reporting of such things goes, that ain't bad. No, it doesn't explain how the experiment was controlled, whether the findings were statistically significant, etc -- but when was the last time you saw a newspaper article that did? I fear your problems might well be with the nature of the research than with the Mail's reporting of it, Lex. Me: I'm going to reserve judgement until such time as I've read the article in the JADD (which I might actually do -- it's an area of vague interest to me, that. I could even try to work it into an essay I've written but not yet handed in, but ... no.)
― Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 8 January 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link
i haven't read the story, it was the headline which caught my eye and made it go o_0
― lex pretend, Thursday, 8 January 2009 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link
it seems like...not even the worst kind of health-related fearmongering, because it's too out-there for that
― lex pretend, Thursday, 8 January 2009 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link
In the sidebar: "End of the hourglass: Career women usher in a straighter female form. The classic hourglass figure made famous by Sophia Loren and Marilyn Monroe appears to have had its day."
― ledge, Thursday, 8 January 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link
(I mean: as a hack by trade and psychology student by choice, I've just spent a whole day ploughing through research articles and the one thing I can say is that even a 20-page report can miss out salient facts. So although there are myriad holes in that Mail piece, in terms of crunching down a piece of research into a couple of hundred non-academic words, it's pretty fucking good. If it turns out to be misrepresenting the study completely, of course, I shall stand corrected.)
xpost
Dude, read the fucking article then. It is based on a piece of potentially valid research.
― Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 8 January 2009 16:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Researchers showed 100 men with autistic children pictures of curvy women, women with athletic frames and more rounded women and found that they do not have a preference on which figure they find more attractive.
The new research from the University of Bath suggests that fathers of autistic children do not share the preference of men across the world for the curvier woman.
this really does seem quite o_O tho
― Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link
So headline should read:
Men who prefer non-curvy women might be fathers to autistic children.
― Mark G, Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link
"My son has autism, I'm afraid I cannot look at curves with pleasure anymore"
Yes, welcome to experimental psychology.
Men who prefer non-curvy women might be fathers to autistic children
Hah, no: they showed no preference for any figure. "Men who don't conform to arguable global norm for what heterosexual males find attractive" is a bit unwieldy for a headline, though.
What's there isn't an elegant headline, either, I agree. I can see why they chose it, though.
― Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link
AutiDads love Posh More.
there. Fixed.
― Mark G, Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Taking it further...
Dads of autistic children do not want more kids, so are attracted to females that look less childbearing types...?
― Mark G, Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Couldn't the headline have just as easily read "Men who don't find athletic women attractive could father children with autism?"
p.s. I have neither read the article nor the supporting materials.
― He's like a big coloured steamroller (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean, why pick on curvy women when the men didn;t state a preference? That's typical DM o_O surely?
― He's like a big coloured steamroller (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link
It could, but the point is that there's cross-cultural support for the curvy stereotype, based on the "ideal" waist-hip ratio of 0.7 (Singh, 1993, I think), so there is a reason for mentioning curves. As you'd know if you'd read the piece (gah, I can't believe I'm sticking up for the Mail).
Not really, no. For the love of all that is decent, read the piece before you start posting, dudes.
― Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link
100 men seems like a very small sample size. I'm a bit more worried about the oestrogen/health stuff and this idea the writer seems to have about autism being similar to brain damage and something that crops up randomly when parents have bad health or put bad things into their kids bodies, it's the same logic they use when they reckon autism is caused by MMR and mercury, and that stuff was all bollocks.
― ‽, Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Ok, read it now.
Dr Mark Brosnan and Dr Ian Walker from the university's Department of Psychology found that as a group the fathers of autistic children didn't all go for the same figure as their most attractive choice.
Hmmm. I really think we may to read the whole thing. It doesn't seem to be quite as clear cut as the DM is making it.
OH REALLY, you say.
― He's like a big coloured steamroller (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link
http://i44.tinypic.com/jfev6u.jpg
― StanM, Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:58 (fifteen years ago) link
100 men seems like a very small sample size
It's probably (sadly?) about average for such a study.
this idea the writer seems to have about autism being similar to brain damage
Plenty of studies link autism to brain "damage" of some kind; hellfire, one of the most convincing new theories on unipolar depression suggests that's actually linked in some way to a structurally abnormal brain. Plenty of studies link it to all sorts of things. That's the point: there isn't a pathology of autism yet. This is why research exists.
something that crops up randomly when parents have bad health or put bad things into their kids bodies
What evidence are you using for this, anyway? Can you quote the actual text that states this, or are you basing this reading on your own assumptions about how the Daily Mail often presents such stories? (Which, I'll admit, are usually fucking shocking.)
― Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:58 (fifteen years ago) link
It doesn't seem to be quite as clear cut as the DM is making it
Well, of course it isn't -- this is a very short newspaper article, while (I'd hope!) that what Brosnan and Walker are doing is a tightly controlled experiment. My point, though, is that going "TUT DAILY MAIL HEADLINES WHATEVER NEXT" without actually reading the piece isn't constructive.
Although why I'm wasting time defending the Daily Mail, I really don't know.
― Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 8 January 2009 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link
one of the most convincing new theories on unipolar depression suggests that's actually linked in some way to a structurally abnormal brain
Actually, I wish I'd not written that because it'll be misconstrued, and I'm falling into my own trap of trying to explain something staggeringly complex using very few words. My fundamental point still stands, though: autism could well be linked (NB: correlation, not causality!) to structural "defects" in the brain.
― Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 8 January 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link
My. I went off and made some soup there (very nice, since you ask: fennel and potato with lemon, and a gremolata topping) and expected to come back to a minor clusterfuck. Anyway, I should be toiling over an essay, but because I am the KING OF PROCRASTINATION ...
Autism could well be linked (NB: correlation, not causality!) to structural "defects" in the brain
... a little light reading on that subject for anyone who's interested, in no particular order.
Carper, R A Carper and Courchesne, E (2000). Inverse correlation between frontal lobe and cerebellum sizes in children with autism. Brain, 123 (4), 836-844. (Various other Courchesne papers consider a similar hypothesis.)
Dawson G, Webb SJ, Wijsman E, Schellenberg G, Estes A, Munson J, Faja S (2005). Neurocognitive and electrophysiological evidence of altered face processing in parents of children with autism: implications for a model of abnormal development of social brain circuitry in autism. Dev Psychopathol, 17, 679–697.
Wicker, B (2008). New Insights from Neuroimaging into the Emotional Brain in Autism. In E McGregor, M Núñez, K Cebula and J Carlos Gómez (Eds). Autism: An Integrated View from Neurocognitive, Clinical and Intervention Research. Malden, Mass; Oxford: Blackwell. (Actually: if you want to criticise the Brosnan and Walker study for being "quite o_O", I'd suggest you read that entire book first.)
Sparks, B F, and a fucking shitload of others (2002). Brain structural abnormalities in young children with autism spectrum disorder. Neurology, 59, 184-192.
Haas, R, and, again, more others than I can be arsed rearranging into author/initial format (1996). Neurologic abnormalities in infantile autism. Journal of Child Neurology, 11 (2), 84-92.
Now, shall we look at some studies considering autism and genetic predisposition/hormonal influences? Is that a resounding "no, shut the fuck up, Grimly?" Suits me fine.
― Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 8 January 2009 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Has he gone?
OK, back to the Mail and it's crazy URLs.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1109882/Man-created-Barbie-Ken-dolls-kinky-swinger-manic-need-sexual-gratification.html
― He's like a big coloured steamroller (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link
‘When Jack talked about creating Barbie it was like listening to somebody talk about a sexual episode, almost like listening to a sexual pervert,’ Ryan’s friend, Stephen Gnass told the author.
Almost.
― He's like a big coloured steamroller (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Quite, em, compulsive level of detail there, grimly. I prefer my scaremongering lower on facts, higher on sheer panic, please. Here's Warning over 'third-hand smoke'. Not from the Mail, but it might as well be
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link
I AM BACK. Actually, no, I'm still looking for innovative new ways to not start writing. Drinking BEER has helped. Shit.
As always, the URL is WAY more interesting than the story, which is desperately dull. Filling in the blanks myself, I was hoping for something like: "Man created Barbie and Ken dolls to amuse friends at kinky swinger parties for manic depressives in need of plastic toys to achieve sexual gratification". Which would have been so much better.
I really want to know if those are being generated automatically or not. I shall endeavour to find out.
― Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Quite, em, compulsive level of detail there, grimly
Heheheh. I think it's served its purpose.
― Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Back on the light bulb tip, it's quite funny being reminded in the Guardian that twelve months ago, the Daily Mail were giving away free energy-saving bulbs and encouraging people to change.
― Yehudi Menudo (NickB), Monday, 12 January 2009 13:30 (fifteen years ago) link
A bitter, disillusioned sub writes: while knocking a story into shape last night, I needed to check when a particular dude was knighted, and chanced upon a relevant article from the Mail. Said article spelled said dude's name two different ways in the space of 100 words ...
... neither of which was actually correct.
― Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 17 January 2009 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1129978/How-faceless-amoral-world-cyberspace-created-deeply-disturbing--generation-SEX.html
I would srsly buy a drink - maybe two - for whoever came up w/ the idea of having the URLs read like this
― I'm Throwing Small Arms Around Powys (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link
that mother & daughter pic is quite something
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link
How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.
― Mare Street tour guide (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Marcello?
― talk me down off the (ledge), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/28/article-2614929-1D6C83B400000578-607_634x634.jpg
Aerial view: A 15-year-old male pupil has been arrested after a female teacher was stabbed to death this morning at Corpus Christi Catholic College (pictured) in Leeds
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Monday, 28 April 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link
Rewitten version for 'clarity', apparently it's not them it's ...
Regarding the launch day, complaints from viewers on Monday focused on the fact that Susanna's now famous legs - whose pay for the role is £400,000 a year - double that of her former BBC salary - were hidden from view.One viewer commented: 'Why has ITV paid so much for @susannareid100 only to put her behind a desk? Its like buying a Ferrari and keeping it in the garage #gmb.'Another wrote: 'You don't hire Susanna Reid and then stick her behind a desk #getyourpinsout #GoodMorningBritain.'
One viewer commented: 'Why has ITV paid so much for @susannareid100 only to put her behind a desk? Its like buying a Ferrari and keeping it in the garage #gmb.'
Another wrote: 'You don't hire Susanna Reid and then stick her behind a desk #getyourpinsout #GoodMorningBritain.'
― Mark G, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 15:42 (nine years ago) link
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/29/article-2615742-1D715B8400000578-826_636x382.jpg
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
a great night in
― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/26/article-2670757-1F25E4B900000578-797_634x378.jpg
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 26 June 2014 14:32 (nine years ago) link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2745218/Amputee-Gipsy-busker-no-legs-bragged-Channel-5-TV-programme-milking-Britain-s-benefits-attacked-street-ex-soldier.html
― a puddle of quivering 501s (soref), Friday, 5 September 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
An ex-soldier has been handed a suspended sentence for racially aggravated threatening behaviour towards an amputee gipsy busker who bragged on national TV about 'milking the benefits system'.Viorel Dinu, 25, told Channel 5's Gypsies on Benefits and Proud he and other Romanians had come to the UK because it was a 'soft touch' for scroungers, a court heard.But his boasts caught up with him when former soldier Mark Hawksby, 34, recognised him from the programme after tripping over the busker's money-filled coat on a street in York.
― a puddle of quivering 501s (soref), Friday, 5 September 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/j5kWvhd.jpg
'That's beyonce? oh wow': @Smooth-Orator reacted with shock after seeing the photos
Unretouched-photos-Beyonce-s-L-Oreal-advert-leak-online-fans-mixed-reactions-Twitter.html
― no love deb weep (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3162404/Angry-residents-quiet-English-village-battle-new-music-festival-banned-gangster-rapper-Snoop-Dogg-performing.html
― soref, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:28 (eight years ago) link
i hope you're not mocking those victims of very real parking and 'expletives' into the early hours concerns
― This is for my new ringpiece, so please only serious answers (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link
this kind moral panic article about a rapper performing seems like something of a blast from the past, especially someone who has appeared in tv ads for MoneySupermarket.com
― soref, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link
My step-dad shared that legendary "Kick This Evil Bastard Out" Daily Star front page with Snoop Dog in the early 90's. The sub-headline about him was "Sicko Bookie". He worked at an independent bookie chain and compiled odds for them, in this case he had sent out some margin-betting to twenty odd shops on how many bodies they were going to excavate from Cromwell St and the shit hit the fan.
― xelab, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link
he had sent out some margin-betting to twenty odd shops on how many bodies they were going to excavate from Cromwell St
ai yi yiii
― tayto fan (Michael B), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link
Tell me he didn't work for betfred
― feargal czukay (NickB), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link
...and that was the last the betting industry ever heard of Patrick Power
― and she's baconing like she's never baconed before (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link
No it was Jack Pearson Licensed Turf accts, shitty little Huddersfield firm. A disgruntled customer in the Waterloo branch called The Star newsdesk about it.
― xelab, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link
lol xelab/nick
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Sunday, 6 September 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link
SHOCKED
The campaign for Britain to leave the EU has been infiltrated by dozens of far-Right extremists with racist views, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3625503/The-neo-Nazi-swastika-breast-Vote-Leave-badge-vest-Holocaust-deniers-EDL-fascists-posing-Kray-twins-grave-violent-thugs-racists-hijacking-Brexit-campaign.html
― ǂbait (seandalai), Sunday, 5 June 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link
The Mail on Sunday really hates The Daily Mail.
In the same way as Liam and Noel.
― Mark G, Monday, 6 June 2016 12:13 (seven years ago) link
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/06/06/23/article-3628068-34FCE54300000578-673_311x571.jpg
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 01:11 (seven years ago) link
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13466421_1201237359921265_7740805882770463582_n.jpg?oh=2d4b9a1ca2c3cae63ae3f11365eb77a3&oe=57C7870B
― an alternate version of his real world dog (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 June 2016 13:26 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS12p0Zqlt0
― Oh baby, if only you knew / Gabnebb hit a hundred-and-two (stevie), Friday, 17 June 2016 13:40 (seven years ago) link
Unless you’re gay, black, transgender, foreign, voted Remain, unemployed, work for the BBC, a single parent, feminist, an NHS worker, Northern, vote Labour, Muslim, overweight, an educator, working class, sexually liberated, vegetarian or believe climate change exists. pic.twitter.com/XmWWSN9HBo— Nick Pettigrew (@Nick_Pettigrew) October 27, 2017
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Friday, 27 October 2017 08:55 (six years ago) link
NATURE: Daily Mail readers have just found out about sequential hermaphroditism in fish and now think it’s part of the BBC political agenda. pic.twitter.com/9PtOhnMTRv— The DM Reporter (@DMReporter) October 26, 2017
― Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Friday, 27 October 2017 09:14 (six years ago) link
A fish called pravda
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 27 October 2017 09:33 (six years ago) link
The Mail somehow managing to sound sarcastic even while bigging itself up on its own front page
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 27 October 2017 09:35 (six years ago) link
Thread by @_MarwanMuhammad: "Hello @MailOnline. I've read your "devastating" article on "illegal migrants in Saint Denis". We too in France have tabloïds who couldn't ca […]" #HardcoreInventedHardlinerVoiceModeActivated
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1025786653040889856.html
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:58 (five years ago) link
This is what you call a headline.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHKeyKcX0AAJb3e?format=jpg
― I Can't See Gervais In My Mind (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 December 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link