Why I love the Daily Mail, as distilled into one story.

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You're getting such a doing next time I'm in work ;)

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

have really good puffs alongside the right that can keep me hanging around the site for ages

Also: what the fuck for? Free extra-energy-burning lightbulbs? The miserable woman's guide to a thinner, bitchier 2009? 10 things you never knew about house prices?

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Have a look at the celebrity section. So much to read!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/index.html

Alba, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Changing my display name to "beloved lightbulb".

Neil S, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

xp
read

Not me I'm the Emotional Type (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

Actually, look at this sad Richard O'Sullivan story for an example. All those juicy Femail stories boxed down the right!

Alba, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Mail website is pretty awesome though. I spend more time on it than any other after The Guardian's. it's usually the site with the best pictures available online, scattered large through the story. The sections work well, and have really good puffs alongside the right that can keep me hanging around the site for ages.

― Alba, Wednesday, January 7, 2009 2:06 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol i thought it was a myth that people in the all 'respect' the mail for its vaunted professionalism.

DANCE MUSIC STUCK AT RECOMBINANT PLATEAU (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oops - I linked to the wrong story.

Here's the Richard O'Sullivan one

Alba, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

Actor gets old. Let's take a close look at his wrinkly old face. Wot a loser!

Not me I'm the Emotional Type (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

But yeah, that was the first one I clicked on as well...

Not me I'm the Emotional Type (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

All those juicy Femail stories boxed down the right!

Royal! Man has shave.
Nostalgia! Man grows older; looks different.
Diet! Ex-EastEnder has new publicist.
Tits! Also with Big Brother link (This is good, keep it up - Ed)
Stating the fucking obvious! Man with cancer "not exactly doing a song and dance about it"
Baby! Man and woman have child.
Beckhams! Man and woman still exist.
Rooneys! Man and woman who had more money than you still have more money than you.

You know, I don't think I've felt this depressed in my life. I'm off to devote my life to charity.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm off to devote my life to charity

Still working for the Herald then?

Billy Dods, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm off to devote my life to charity

And watching Celebrity Big Brother ...

Alba, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

Richard O'Sullivan is only 64! It's hardly that old.

Alba, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol i thought it was a myth that people in the all 'respect' the mail for its vaunted professionalism

Uh...

Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

in the print meeja

DANCE MUSIC STUCK AT RECOMBINANT PLATEAU (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

or just newspaper biz

DANCE MUSIC STUCK AT RECOMBINANT PLATEAU (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

the mail print a story about richard o'sullivan's decay every year, i am sure about it

the first Woman Tuomas (stevie), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

I LIVE HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE CLOSING CREDITS OF THREE'S COMPANY WHERE IT SAYS "BASED ON MAN ABOUT THE HOUSE". SO I DECIDED TO LOOK IT UP ON THE COMPUTOR NOT ONLY THAT I PURCHASED ALL THE EPISODES TO MAN ABOUT THE HOUSE. THE SHOW IS REALLY FUNNY AND EVEN WATCHING IT OVER AND OVER I NEVER STOP LAUGHING. FOR A FUNNY SHOW LIKE MAN ABOUT THE HOUSE, I THINK THE SHOW SHOULD HAVE RAN A COUPLE OF MORE YEARS BACK THEN. THE SHOW MAN ABOUT THE HOUSE ENDED TOO SOON FOR ME.

Posted by: CARLOS RIOS | July 13, 2008 06:45 PM

the first Woman Tuomas (stevie), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Quite right. I wonder if Mr Rios had Richard O'Sullivan Google Alerts set up.

Alba, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

"alert: Richard O'Sullivan looks five minutes older than he did five minutes ago"

snoball, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

I thought he was top class in "Dick Turpin" BTW...

snoball, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1109722/Men-dont-curvy-women-attractive-father-children-autism.html";>Men who don't find curvy women attractive 'could father children with autism'</a>

o_0

lex pretend, Thursday, 8 January 2009 16:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

or whatever the ht stupid ml is

lex pretend, Thursday, 8 January 2009 16:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

Umm. As far as the reporting of such things goes, that ain't bad. No, it doesn't explain how the experiment was controlled, whether the findings were statistically significant, etc -- but when was the last time you saw a newspaper article that did? I fear your problems might well be with the nature of the research than with the Mail's reporting of it, Lex. Me: I'm going to reserve judgement until such time as I've read the article in the JADD (which I might actually do -- it's an area of vague interest to me, that. I could even try to work it into an essay I've written but not yet handed in, but ... no.)

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 8 January 2009 16:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

i haven't read the story, it was the headline which caught my eye and made it go o_0

lex pretend, Thursday, 8 January 2009 16:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

it seems like...not even the worst kind of health-related fearmongering, because it's too out-there for that

lex pretend, Thursday, 8 January 2009 16:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

In the sidebar: "End of the hourglass: Career women usher in a straighter female form. The classic hourglass figure made famous by Sophia Loren and Marilyn Monroe appears to have had its day."

ledge, Thursday, 8 January 2009 16:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

(I mean: as a hack by trade and psychology student by choice, I've just spent a whole day ploughing through research articles and the one thing I can say is that even a 20-page report can miss out salient facts. So although there are myriad holes in that Mail piece, in terms of crunching down a piece of research into a couple of hundred non-academic words, it's pretty fucking good. If it turns out to be misrepresenting the study completely, of course, I shall stand corrected.)

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it seems like...not even the worst kind of health-related fearmongering, because it's too out-there for that

Dude, read the fucking article then. It is based on a piece of potentially valid research.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 8 January 2009 16:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

Researchers showed 100 men with autistic children pictures of curvy women, women with athletic frames and more rounded women and found that they do not have a preference on which figure they find more attractive.

The new research from the University of Bath suggests that fathers of autistic children do not share the preference of men across the world for the curvier woman.

this really does seem quite o_O tho

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

So headline should read:

Men who prefer non-curvy women might be fathers to autistic children.

Mark G, Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

"My son has autism, I'm afraid I cannot look at curves with pleasure anymore"

Mark G, Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

this really does seem quite o_O tho

Yes, welcome to experimental psychology.

Men who prefer non-curvy women might be fathers to autistic children

Hah, no: they showed no preference for any figure. "Men who don't conform to arguable global norm for what heterosexual males find attractive" is a bit unwieldy for a headline, though.

What's there isn't an elegant headline, either, I agree. I can see why they chose it, though.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

AutiDads love Posh More.

there. Fixed.

Mark G, Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

Taking it further...

Dads of autistic children do not want more kids, so are attracted to females that look less childbearing types...?

Mark G, Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

Couldn't the headline have just as easily read "Men who don't find athletic women attractive could father children with autism?"

p.s. I have neither read the article nor the supporting materials.

He's like a big coloured steamroller (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

I mean, why pick on curvy women when the men didn;t state a preference? That's typical DM o_O surely?

He's like a big coloured steamroller (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

Couldn't the headline have just as easily read "Men who don't find athletic women attractive could father children with autism?"

It could, but the point is that there's cross-cultural support for the curvy stereotype, based on the "ideal" waist-hip ratio of 0.7 (Singh, 1993, I think), so there is a reason for mentioning curves. As you'd know if you'd read the piece (gah, I can't believe I'm sticking up for the Mail).

I mean, why pick on curvy women when the men didn;t state a preference? That's typical DM o_O surely?

Not really, no. For the love of all that is decent, read the piece before you start posting, dudes.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

100 men seems like a very small sample size. I'm a bit more worried about the oestrogen/health stuff and this idea the writer seems to have about autism being similar to brain damage and something that crops up randomly when parents have bad health or put bad things into their kids bodies, it's the same logic they use when they reckon autism is caused by MMR and mercury, and that stuff was all bollocks.

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, Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ok, read it now.

Dr Mark Brosnan and Dr Ian Walker from the university's Department of Psychology found that as a group the fathers of autistic children didn't all go for the same figure as their most attractive choice.

Hmmm. I really think we may to read the whole thing. It doesn't seem to be quite as clear cut as the DM is making it.

OH REALLY, you say.

He's like a big coloured steamroller (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

StanM, Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

100 men seems like a very small sample size

It's probably (sadly?) about average for such a study.

this idea the writer seems to have about autism being similar to brain damage

Plenty of studies link autism to brain "damage" of some kind; hellfire, one of the most convincing new theories on unipolar depression suggests that's actually linked in some way to a structurally abnormal brain. Plenty of studies link it to all sorts of things. That's the point: there isn't a pathology of autism yet. This is why research exists.

something that crops up randomly when parents have bad health or put bad things into their kids bodies

What evidence are you using for this, anyway? Can you quote the actual text that states this, or are you basing this reading on your own assumptions about how the Daily Mail often presents such stories? (Which, I'll admit, are usually fucking shocking.)

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 8 January 2009 17:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

It doesn't seem to be quite as clear cut as the DM is making it

Well, of course it isn't -- this is a very short newspaper article, while (I'd hope!) that what Brosnan and Walker are doing is a tightly controlled experiment. My point, though, is that going "TUT DAILY MAIL HEADLINES WHATEVER NEXT" without actually reading the piece isn't constructive.

Although why I'm wasting time defending the Daily Mail, I really don't know.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 8 January 2009 18:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

one of the most convincing new theories on unipolar depression suggests that's actually linked in some way to a structurally abnormal brain

Actually, I wish I'd not written that because it'll be misconstrued, and I'm falling into my own trap of trying to explain something staggeringly complex using very few words. My fundamental point still stands, though: autism could well be linked (NB: correlation, not causality!) to structural "defects" in the brain.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 8 January 2009 18:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

My. I went off and made some soup there (very nice, since you ask: fennel and potato with lemon, and a gremolata topping) and expected to come back to a minor clusterfuck. Anyway, I should be toiling over an essay, but because I am the KING OF PROCRASTINATION ...

Autism could well be linked (NB: correlation, not causality!) to structural "defects" in the brain

... a little light reading on that subject for anyone who's interested, in no particular order.

Carper, R A Carper and Courchesne, E (2000). Inverse correlation between frontal lobe and cerebellum sizes in children with autism. Brain, 123 (4), 836-844. (Various other Courchesne papers consider a similar hypothesis.)

Dawson G, Webb SJ, Wijsman E, Schellenberg G, Estes A, Munson J, Faja S (2005). Neurocognitive and electrophysiological evidence of altered face processing in parents of children with autism: implications for a model of abnormal development of social brain circuitry in autism. Dev Psychopathol, 17, 679–697.

Wicker, B (2008). New Insights from Neuroimaging into the Emotional Brain in Autism. In E McGregor, M Núñez, K Cebula and J Carlos Gómez (Eds). Autism: An Integrated View from Neurocognitive, Clinical and Intervention Research. Malden, Mass; Oxford: Blackwell. (Actually: if you want to criticise the Brosnan and Walker study for being "quite o_O", I'd suggest you read that entire book first.)

Sparks, B F, and a fucking shitload of others (2002). Brain structural abnormalities in young children with autism spectrum disorder. Neurology, 59, 184-192.

Haas, R, and, again, more others than I can be arsed rearranging into author/initial format (1996). Neurologic abnormalities in infantile autism. Journal of Child Neurology, 11 (2), 84-92.

Now, shall we look at some studies considering autism and genetic predisposition/hormonal influences? Is that a resounding "no, shut the fuck up, Grimly?" Suits me fine.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 8 January 2009 19:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

‘When Jack talked about creating Barbie it was like listening to somebody talk about a sexual episode, almost like listening to a sexual pervert,’ Ryan’s friend, Stephen Gnass told the author.

Almost.

He's like a big coloured steamroller (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

Quite, em, compulsive level of detail there, grimly. I prefer my scaremongering lower on facts, higher on sheer panic, please. Here's Warning over 'third-hand smoke'. Not from the Mail, but it might as well be

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 January 2009 20:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

lmao

caek, Sunday, 13 October 2013 16:41 (two years ago) Permalink

haaaa

imago, Sunday, 13 October 2013 17:00 (two years ago) Permalink

even those fucken polak savages

imago, Sunday, 13 October 2013 17:01 (two years ago) Permalink

(xps) Now that's what I call mental arithmetic...

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Sunday, 13 October 2013 17:02 (two years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

MOST WATCHED NEWS VIDEOS

White supremacist shocked by DNA heritage
GRAPHIC: Russian man nails testicles to Red Square in...
CCTV: Moments after Canadian ballerina plunges to her death

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 14:00 (two years ago) Permalink

England is the only developed country producing school leavers who are worse at maths and reading than their grandparents, according to a damning report.

The study found 16 to 24-year-olds are among the least literate and numerate in the world, lagging behind those in countries including Estonia, Poland and the Slovak Republic.

England came 22nd out of 24 countries for the reading skills of its young people and 21st for maths, according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development.

Generally speaking, that's pretty poor English.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 14:03 (two years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

j., Thursday, 20 February 2014 02:43 (two years ago) Permalink

poll

I am a 'music' fan. Revolutionary, isn't it? (onimo), Thursday, 20 February 2014 10:58 (two years ago) Permalink

you are clinically deaf and should sell you iPod (stevie), Thursday, 20 February 2014 10:59 (two years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

The Daily Mail, however, was not a fan of the desk [on the new ITV breakfast show "Good Morning Britain"], complaining it hid Reid's legs from view.

"Later on the show, however, Susanna moved from behind the desk, giving viewers the chance to catch a glimpse of her enviable pins," it reported.

Mark G, Monday, 28 April 2014 15:41 (two years ago) Permalink

looking forward to the Mail's "Upskirt Corner" page

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 April 2014 15:57 (two years ago) Permalink

Getta loada them gams!

From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Monday, 28 April 2014 16:33 (two years ago) Permalink

Pupil Jacob Hill, 16, from Leeds, said: 'He had gone through stages of depression and used to be on anti-depressants.'

16-year-old Matthew Calvert, also of Leeds, was in many of the same lessons as the alleged attacker and described him as 'strange'.

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Monday, 28 April 2014 21:39 (two years ago) Permalink

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/28/article-2614929-1D6C83B400000578-607_634x634.jpg

Aerial view: A 15-year-old male pupil has been arrested after a female teacher was stabbed to death this morning at Corpus Christi Catholic College (pictured) in Leeds

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Monday, 28 April 2014 21:47 (two years ago) Permalink

Rewitten version for 'clarity', apparently it's not them it's ...

Regarding the launch day, complaints from viewers on Monday focused on the fact that Susanna's now famous legs - whose pay for the role is £400,000 a year - double that of her former BBC salary - were hidden from view.

One viewer commented: 'Why has ITV paid so much for @susannareid100 only to put her behind a desk? Its like buying a Ferrari and keeping it in the garage #gmb.'

Another wrote: 'You don't hire Susanna Reid and then stick her behind a desk #getyourpinsout #GoodMorningBritain.'

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 15:42 (two years ago) Permalink

a great night in

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 17:47 (two years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
two months pass...

An ex-soldier has been handed a suspended sentence for racially aggravated threatening behaviour towards an amputee gipsy busker who bragged on national TV about 'milking the benefits system'.
Viorel Dinu, 25, told Channel 5's Gypsies on Benefits and Proud he and other Romanians had come to the UK because it was a 'soft touch' for scroungers, a court heard.
But his boasts caught up with him when former soldier Mark Hawksby, 34, recognised him from the programme after tripping over the busker's money-filled coat on a street in York.

a puddle of quivering 501s (soref), Friday, 5 September 2014 21:57 (two years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

'That's beyonce? oh wow': @Smooth-Orator reacted with shock after seeing the photos

Unretouched-photos-Beyonce-s-L-Oreal-advert-leak-online-fans-mixed-reactions-Twitter.html

no love deb weep (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:45 (one year ago) Permalink

four months pass...

i hope you're not mocking those victims of very real parking and 'expletives' into the early hours concerns

This is for my new ringpiece, so please only serious answers (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:48 (one year ago) Permalink

this kind moral panic article about a rapper performing seems like something of a blast from the past, especially someone who has appeared in tv ads for MoneySupermarket.com

soref, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:55 (one year ago) Permalink

My step-dad shared that legendary "Kick This Evil Bastard Out" Daily Star front page with Snoop Dog in the early 90's. The sub-headline about him was "Sicko Bookie". He worked at an independent bookie chain and compiled odds for them, in this case he had sent out some margin-betting to twenty odd shops on how many bodies they were going to excavate from Cromwell St and the shit hit the fan.

xelab, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:59 (one year ago) Permalink

he had sent out some margin-betting to twenty odd shops on how many bodies they were going to excavate from Cromwell St

ai yi yiii

tayto fan (Michael B), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:07 (one year ago) Permalink

Tell me he didn't work for betfred

feargal czukay (NickB), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:09 (one year ago) Permalink

...and that was the last the betting industry ever heard of Patrick Power

and she's baconing like she's never baconed before (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:11 (one year ago) Permalink

No it was Jack Pearson Licensed Turf accts, shitty little Huddersfield firm. A disgruntled customer in the Waterloo branch called The Star newsdesk about it.

xelab, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:13 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

lol xelab/nick

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Sunday, 6 September 2015 19:48 (one year ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

SHOCKED

The campaign for Britain to leave the EU has been infiltrated by dozens of far-Right extremists with racist views, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3625503/The-neo-Nazi-swastika-breast-Vote-Leave-badge-vest-Holocaust-deniers-EDL-fascists-posing-Kray-twins-grave-violent-thugs-racists-hijacking-Brexit-campaign.html

ǂbait (seandalai), Sunday, 5 June 2016 21:39 (three months ago) Permalink

The Mail on Sunday really hates The Daily Mail.

In the same way as Liam and Noel.

Mark G, Monday, 6 June 2016 12:13 (three months ago) Permalink

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 01:11 (three months ago) Permalink

an alternate version of his real world dog (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 June 2016 13:26 (three months ago) Permalink

Oh baby, if only you knew / Gabnebb hit a hundred-and-two (stevie), Friday, 17 June 2016 13:40 (three months ago) Permalink


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