"Instrumental Hip-Hop Sucks. Ban It Forever."

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and bob's yer u.n.k.l.e.

scott seward, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

speaking of Mo Wax, Turntablism by DJ Krush was a big favorite of mine for a loooong time. at the time i thought it sounded like the future but it sounds very simplistic now

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

dj food boxset i had in the store kinda sucked. did not age well. sold it in like 2 days though.

scott seward, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

krush stuff too not so hot after all this time. also horrible/unmemorable rapping on his old tracks not so hot. shoulda stuck to rapstrumentals.

scott seward, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

DJ Vadim is reliable tho, as are London Funk Allstars and The Herbaliser

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

xp I think Meiso still holds up, but yeah a lot of trip hop noodling. I always liked his tracks with Japanese rapping, because, y'know, Japanese rapping!

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

(ha I should probably footnote my previous post with "I haven't played their entire albums lately but I was cherrypicking things off of Cold Krush Cuts yesterday and they still sounded awesome")

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

btw Tuomas, if you haven't heard Cold Krush Cuts, you really should

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

yeah its true meiso had some good stuff on it.

scott seward, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

not rap, but i've been kinda obsessed with the diseases rhythm for the last couple of weeks and have been listening to it in multiple variations as an instrumental and as a backing track for vocals and i hear it in my head now all day long and i'm pretty sure i could hear nothing but that rhythm for hours but the people in my store might not be so receptive. i'm reaching into its heart and part of me is wondering how something so simple could be so transcendent to me but mostly i just love the guitar and wanna marry it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQxT7qpDWHw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACE7lYmW10w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnfBYoL1FpA

plus, this makes me seek out more information on junjo lawes and the roots radics and also live soundsystem releases from the era that used the rhythm prominently:

http://www.ebreggae.com/reggae-images/front/Vinyl/100973/A-Live-Session-With-King-Sturgrav-Hi-Fi-Lee-Unlimited.jpg

and that makes me want to know more about U-Roy's fabled King Stur-Grav soundsystem and i do learn more and its really interesting. all because that guitar on that rhythm track was calling to me. and i don't have a reggae or dancehall blog or anything. i'll probably never write about dancehall. but your ears gotta be open. they just gotta be. even rjfriggind2 can teach you a thing or two. in 2012!

scott seward, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

it starts at 3:33 but listen to johnny ringo destroy the crowd on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaTeovypmRw

scott seward, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

so anyway, there's been kind of an explosion in beat-based electronic music over the last few years, right? like, uh, flying lotus, shlohmo, shigeto, lapalux, jonwayne, hudson mohawke, elos, teebs, samiyam, matthewdavid, etc etc. i'm pretty sure the relative popularity of the beat scene is what the article is talking about, without actually talking about it.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

Don't remove this guy's bizarre past-based perspective. I am sure he will hear about and dismiss Clams Casino sometime in 2013

Or, as I posted on facebook:

"this is all pretty bad except DJ Shadow who I give a pass. btw I'm white"

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

i thought a couple of the Oddisee records were pretty decent. not as good as the stuff he makes w/rapping on it tho so...

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

the whole idea of dudes named Oddisee and DaVinci being popular right now is v confusing to anyone who was up on backpack rap ca 2005

dave cool, Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

This is kind of like how Lex denigrates Drake's "Marvins Room" but thinks JoJo's version is amazing. I understand preferring one over the other, but when so many of the sonic details are the same, it's hard for me to understand how one's opinion can change so drastically.

jaymc, Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

Don't remove this guy's bizarre past-based perspective. I am sure he will hear about and dismiss Clams Casino sometime in 2013

oh, it's totally bizarre. i imagine him hearing about a low end theory night and just assuming everyone was playing dilated peoples instrumentals on loop or something.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

ten months pass...

bump

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 16 December 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

a friend sent me the express rising album from 2003 and I am listening to it right now, I wanted to start a thread on instrumental hip hop because I dunno, I just wanted people to post all their fave albums, should I just make another thread or keep it in here

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 16 December 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

I even liked diplos dumb fake dj shadow album from a long time ago I have a high pain threshold for this kinda shit

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 16 December 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

I Love Feeling Like I Am In A Coffeeshop

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 16 December 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

Hmm, I love hip hop. I've always felt that the instrumental hip hop guys are the ones that I can't talk to hip hop about, and who live in some insular captive world. Yeah, Endtroducing and stuff, but does anyone want to listen to more than 3 (?) instrumental hip hop albums? It's not jazz. It does get really boring. I don't think that's a terrible thing to admit.

paulhw, Sunday, 16 December 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

great post

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

I kinda wanna listen to the new wiz album since j0rd described it as being a good instrumental album

乒乓, Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

i listen to tons of intrumental versions of songs on 12 inches. from the 80's to the 2000's. and i can do that forever. well, i've done it since the 80's anyway. but i don't actually listen to quote unquote instrumental hip hop albums. though i like some of them which i point out upthread. my favorite mix tapes to make are instrumental mixes of 90's and 2000's rap singles. i play them over and over again. the more minimal the better. i draw the line at breaks&beats comps though. drum drops. that kind of thing. i made a tape of freestyle edits and dubs the other night and it is so killer if i do say so myself.

scott seward, Sunday, 16 December 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

please post it, all the mixes of yours I've listened to have been p great

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 16 December 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link

otm

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Sunday, 16 December 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link

One of my favourite albums from this year was a (mostly) instrumental hip-hop albums by a duo of Finnish rap veterans called Koti6. You can listen to it on Spotify:

http://open.spotify.com/album/02S05pjMpTu5Vmg8ueMpSZ

There's nothing groundbreaking about it, the simply have a great ear for samples, and know how to use them.

Tuomas, Monday, 17 December 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link

Whoa, 497 comments!

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 17 December 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

had to check the dates to make sure the recent posts in this thread weren't from 10 years ago

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Monday, 17 December 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

as in, hey guys, we're living in a beat renaissance.

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Monday, 17 December 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

I go to like beat based shows like every week tho

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

there was just a certain kind of like dusty jazz over semi-interesting semi-boring breaks vibe that I am looking for idk

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 17 December 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

j0rdan is so otm abt the wiz album
that 'ridin out in my ride' song is so bad lyrically but the production omg

johnny crunch, Friday, 21 December 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link

Ban It Forever.

Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Saturday, 22 December 2012 02:42 (eleven years ago) link


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