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ah shall probably not backtrack and find out. Life is too short for that although this does seem to be haymaking time for the mindless element of ILX.

Depeinding on who you're calling "mindless", you might want to get a headstart on back-pedaling.

Mainly Enrique and Dom P. who seem to be doing pointless revives of every luna started thread ever.

i dunno if chaki went about this in a good way tho. esp. going onto this particular thread where luna was fairly regular poster and with everyone on here 'knowing' her a certain way (online persona) and liking her OF COURSE they're going to be defensive and critical of someone attacking her without giving any real immediate clues as to the story behind that (these all emerged pretty slowly - is a bit unfair to just say 'well you should've already known and you are dumb/naive for never considering it or giving benefit of doubt' if anyone did that) - it's the fear that you've been manipulated or made to look a fool just by having regular polite friendly conversations with someone who turned out to be phoney/actually manipulative IRL. so i don't blame people for having a go at chaki on that basis but this isn't an attack on chaki either just a 'could've gone about this with more sensitivity' thing not that i guess he gives a fuck about that (that would be the 'selfless' aspect of his 'broness') i guess.

argh too much guessing

Meanwhile one of the many intriguing subplots to this whole clusterfuck is that I have just become the first ILX mod to accidentally ban themselves from the board. I suck at internet.

you're not the first mod to accidentally ban yourself (unless you did it before)

I think it's funny in the end

moving to LA!?

xposts

jol out.

She wasn't that regular a poster on here. I'm not quite sure why this thread was used for the 'I Am Off The Internet Because Of You' announcement considering all that I saw before that was on Excelsior (lol I know).

Lots of xposts to blueski

because this was a thread she was active on at the time no?

at some point throughout the whole bunglefuck, it was insinuated that (a) chaki and i were the same person (b) luna and i were the same person (c) luna and chaki were the same person

I think chaki was hoping more people would come out and admit that they, too, had been affected by Luna BS. Because he's taking heat for everyone who left ILX already or who doesn't want to be publicly IDed over this crap, I can understand it would be cool if other people who were affected or just plain had suspicions would speak up. Those people obv didn't want to, for their various reasons, so fine. But that was prob why he started with small comments instead of, say, starting a thread about it on main page. I don't blame him, I don't know what I'd have done either.

I would like to know who are the 53 people that left ILX because of the noize board.

I think it's funny in the end

-- RJG, Tuesday, October 16, 2007 12:08 PM (3 minutes ago)

said the leprechaun

52 of them were JW sock puppets.

xp

I wonder where the fake luna(s) is/are right now

or real luna(s)?

I don't think it's much/ANYTHING to think people should be truthful on the internet. Why misrepresent yrself? You want to be someone else, either grow up or do it.

can you rephrase that in a modern language?

ah shall probably not backtrack and find out. Life is too short for that although this does seem to be haymaking time for the mindless element of ILX.

-- Ed, Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:03 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Mainly Enrique and Dom P. who seem to be doing pointless revives of every luna started thread ever.

-- Ed, Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:06 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i'm sorry we're not up to the high intellectual standards of the watercooler.

Apparently he's saying you should either fake it or not fake it, which is a sound advice.

Ik denk niet het veel/OM HET EVEN WAT om is te denken de mensen op Internet getrouw zouden moeten zijn. Waarom verkeerd voorstel yrself? U wilt zijn iemand anders, of groeien of doet het.

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i don't exactly know what anybody expects would have been the 'right' way to go about this. i really don't think chak went about, like, maliciously trying to prove this whole fakeness at all. it was just a couple of spurious comments that got drawn out, and in the course of defending himself and proving his point, he began to illuminate something that a lot of us had been trying to leave alone for a while. things got heated, of course ...

hopefully sam will come back; she's a nice and very decent person who takes things pretty personally. she's left before ...

A similar thing happened to me once (years ago). Months of online chats with some girl, all seems genuine, finally arrange to meet but then a day beforehand she drops all contact. The only real mindfuck is how they keep it going for SO long.

those revives are far from pointless. they are helping a nation heal

too bad we can't change usernames any more. i imagine a whole festival of 'fake tuomas'es and 'fake ned raggett's and 'fake chaki's

^^^^^

Why misrepresent yrself? You want to be someone else, either grow up or do it.

-- President Evil

"president evil", master of irony!

Because he's taking heat for everyone who left ILX already or who doesn't want to be publicly IDed over this crap, I can understand it would be cool if other people who were affected or just plain had suspicions would speak up. Those people obv didn't want to, for their various reasons, so fine.

Given all of what you're saying, did these people want chaki and others speaking for them and pasting their sides of the story, etc? I really, really do not want to get involved with this and this is all I am going to say on the subject, but it is the one question I have about everything.

in all honesty, i hope whoever luna really is, is okay -- i don't wish her any personal harm. i'm hardly the person to do it, but it wouldn't be a bad idea of somebody to send her an email to check in.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL^^^^^

those revives are far from pointless. they are helping a nation heal

-- am0n, Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:21 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

^^^^^^^

jessie: this was not a coordinated, planned, assault, it was just a kind of unearthing of stuff. chaki was trying to say 'trust me, there's some real meat to this -- i've heard about it in person' without giving away the names of the people involved.

they are for cheapo 'this'll get me brownie points from the right crowd' zings xpost

vvvvvvvvvvvv

I thought of emailing Luna, but if she really is a compulsory liar like this thread would suggest, I'm not sure what sort of answer I'd get (if any), and I don't want to delve too deep into this shit. I do hope she's okay too, and that maybe she can in the future learn to live without such lies.

wtf "the right crowd"?

i thought that was why you do it. is that not the reason?

most of the people involved were in chat that night

have i fallen in with "the right crowd"?

i'm hardly the person to do it, but it wouldn't be a bad idea of somebody to send her an email to check in.

She's really, really hurt.

I agree that all these thread revivals to look for "clues" is a pretty lame attempt for humour in a situation that isn't really funny in the first place.

They're to look for clues?

SERIOUS POSTER IS SERIOUS

Did you mail to her, Michael? What did she say?

thanks, remy, for the response. I didn't mean to be accusing people of planning an "assault" or anything, I was just voicing my concern for the people who were hurt in the situation(s) off-board as someone who can get pretty up-in-arms about privacy. you and chaki obviously know them far better than I do, and I didn't mean to sound really critical of the decisions you guys, and anyone else involved, made. the last thing I want to do is pick sides in this, because I don't think I have any right to be involved.

This is kind of an odd moral point: if you're attached to a person that doesn't exist (or who exists in significantly different terms than the ones with which you had been presented) is it fair or is it self-deluding to extend to the real person same charity and kindness you would extend to the less honest front to which you were attached?

I can't imagine the affection you all felt for Luna is totally diminished, just confused and kind of misplaced. There's still gotta be some human attachment, right?

I wasn't especially friendly with her, and this really doesn't change my opinion at all. If I were close, I'd probably email her with something non-accusatory, but I also expect I'm gonna be the kind of prick that lets my wife cheat on me a lot.