Rolling R&B Thread 2012

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The discourse around the Weekend and Frank Ocean sapped any enjoyment of them I'd had. I'd hate for the same to happen to Miguel.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

I guess because I've been busy working a lot in 2011 that I didn't read much (if at all) on the discourse around them. I only read rave reviews about them around the blogosphere. (I read plenty of discourse on Tyler, The Creator though ugh).

Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

omg this miguel

art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

This kind of reminds me of "Try Sleeping With a Broken Heart".

― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Sunday, February 5, 2012 1:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

troo

J0rdan S., Monday, 6 February 2012 20:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

my favourite part is 0.00 to 2.28

art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol

J0rdan S., Monday, 6 February 2012 20:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

even tho miguel was sorta new like frank ocean and the weeknd, the audiences aren't really the same so it's sort of a weird thing to bring up

it would make more sense imo to talk about how miguel is a much more creative, fun and singular songwriter than trey songz... or how something like "adorn" is like if jeremih had a second hit off of his last album

J0rdan S., Monday, 6 February 2012 20:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

miguel is a much more creative, fun and singular songwriter than trey songz...

a bit premature to say this imo, songz is a very good songwriter.

DO NOT CALL (The Brainwasher), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://artdealerchic.com/ is pretty funny too. LENON.

Jacques_Lamure, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

LOL:

DO NOT CALL (The Brainwasher), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol @ track listing font choice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

thought that was the new weeknd tracklist

nowadays suckers seem to be so fucking naïve (uberweiss), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

btw if you like sleepin w/ a broken heart, I dig this remix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

the painting isn't the worst thing in the world

J0rdan S., Monday, 6 February 2012 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

god I wish the terry richardson photo aesthetic would just die

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah seriously

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

this new miguel song is so delicate. the production really leaves room for his voice to soar at the end there.

art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

<i>He should've been lumped in with Frank and Weeknd with the whole "new r&b guy" trend.</i>

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<I>even tho miguel was sorta new like frank ocean and the weeknd, the audiences aren't really the same so it's sort of a weird thing to bring up

it would make more sense imo to talk about how miguel is a much more creative, fun and singular songwriter than trey songz</i>

I interviewed Trey Songz the other week, and he touched on a lot of the points this thread has over the last couple of days. His big-picture take on R&B is that it's a good time for the genre, with young blood like Miguel, Frank Ocean and The Weeknd (he listed them in that order, I think) doing great things that are possible in part because they've done their own thing instead of trying to cater to a Top 40 radio climate that doesn't have much interest in R&B right now.

Evan R, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

(sorry I used the wrong HTML for those italics)

Evan R, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think Miguel is a better songwriter than Trey Songz, but My Mans is more singular. It's often his clumsier aspects that are the most distinct.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^^^^^^^ NEW BRANDY AND MONICA SONG ^^^^^^^^^^^

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Monday, 6 February 2012 23:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^ AWESOME ^^^^

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Monday, 6 February 2012 23:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

just heard that on the radio coming home, pretty good

some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 23:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sorry bwasher, didn't want to squash your enthusiasm, not feeling this really at all. Nothing particularly memorable about any of it.

dr dre throwing dubstep balloons (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 6 February 2012 23:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

I wish there was some good reason for it to be a duet

Evan R, Monday, 6 February 2012 23:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Somehow never found the R&B 2012 thread until today. Hm. Excited to work through all this.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 6 February 2012 23:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ok. That first Dawn Richards single does sound very Brandy.

Listening to the Jade Alston tape and she had me from the Single on a Saturday Night Intro which is A++ gorgeous. Like the guitar counterpoint going on in at the end of 'Missing You Lately'.

She's got a beautiful lower register - I can't think of the last time we had a R&B singer who consistently hung out in that part of her vocal register. Very sultry.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 02:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Elle Varner mixtape is also pretty good, even the R&B cover of Ani Difranco.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 02:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

New mixtape from Kalenna of Dirty Money, a few dope cuts on it

http://www.datpiff.com/Kalenna-Chamber-Of-Diaries-mixtape.312046.html

sisilafami, Monday, 13 February 2012 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

usher - climax

http://soundcloud.com/diplo/climax

:o

nowadays suckers seem to be so fucking naïve (uberweiss), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 01:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes,

:O

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 03:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah. I was just coming here to post that. Was a bit skeptical at first, but it's one of my favourite Usher tracks in ages, notwithstanding Diplo's involvement.

Market forces + Guetta pushing Usher away from his totally awesome balladry towards Autotuned Taio Cruz/Derulo ish was/is incredibly depressing. This doesn't quite match the best of old-Usher, but this is /DAMN/ good.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 03:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean. It's no 'Burn' or 'U Got It Bad', but I'll take what I can get.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 03:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Real good.

dr dre throwing dubstep balloons (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 04:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah this is incredible

flopson, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 05:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

it sounds cool but think the songwriting is a bit lacking

it kinda needs a hook... as far as astral third era usher songs go, "mars vs venus" >>>>>> climax

illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 05:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

'astral third era usher songs' is going to be the name of my sci-fi paperback

CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 15:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think the songwriting is actually really sharp. There's a lot of layers of deliberate ambiguity behind what on the surface seems a shitty double entendre. It doesn't hit me as immediately as "Papers" (or even "Stranger") but it's the first Usher track in a while that leaves me something to chew on.

Evan R, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink


<3

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

annoying pronunciation aside this tinashe tape is sounding very very good. she commands the tracks, some of which sound like the weeknd with competent vocals. actually these are way beyond just competent... please, school me on tinashe. easily debut of the year so far

saturdaynight (jk), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

I interviewed Trey Songz the other week, and he touched on a lot of the points this thread has over the last couple of days. His big-picture take on R&B is that it's a good time for the genre, with young blood like Miguel, Frank Ocean and The Weeknd (he listed them in that order, I think) doing great things that are possible in part because they've done their own thing instead of trying to cater to a Top 40 radio climate that doesn't have much interest in R&B right now.

― Evan R, Monday, February 6, 2012 2:48 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this seems like a pretty pat summary of it, esp considering that one song aside neither of the latter artists have done any damage to the charts either...

D-40, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 05:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

fuck evy jane

lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

more fucking tumblr&b. JUST FUCK OFF

lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

new nikkiya song is really excellent though

lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just tried that Evy Jane track. Not good, but it's not that different from some of the more ephemeral stuff in the outsider R&B thread. Why such hostility? Did a pitchfork writer recommend her or something?

Evan R, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

It showed up in FACT today and they're white and from Vancouver?

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Unless there's a more tangible reason.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

all fair enough reasons to hate tbqh

illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:46 (2 years ago) Permalink


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