fall out boy - folie à deux poll

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amazing perfect classic songs, could vote for any of these:
1. "Disloyal Order of Water Buffaloes" 4:17
6. "The (Shipped) Gold Standard" 3:19
7. "(Coffee's for Closers)" 4:35

also great but on a slightly lower tier:
4. "America's Suitehearts" 3:34
10. "Tiffany Blews" 3:44
12. "20 Dollar Nose Bleed" 4:17

good but I have to be in the mood for them:
5. "Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown on a Bad Bet" 3:54
9. "27" 3:12
11. "w.a.m.s." 4:38
13. "West Coast Smoker" 2:46

don't especially like but still wouldn't skip past if not in a hurry:
2. "I Don't Care" 3:34
3. "She's My Winona" 3:51
8. "What a Catch, Donnie" 4:51

some dude, Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was all rmde at the guest appearances at the time but in retrospect it's so perfect for this to be the only album in history to feature both Elvis Costello and Lil Wayne

some dude, Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

god "Coffee's For Closers" is ridiculous, i feel like not many songs keep up that kind of relentless pace of hook after hook for over 4 minutes

some dude, Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Totally. This must be OTM, btw, since I never heard any of these songs until today!:

if you look at the chart performance of the singles, i feel like there's a really clear arc of them doing well on rock radio, then pop radio too, then rock radio kind of abandoning them as 'too pop' and pop radio moving shortly after, so they went from crossover stars to not particularly welcome on either side of the gap in record time.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah. That's really accurate. It sort of baffles me that pop radio had space for something like 'Arms Race' or 'Mmrs'

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 5 February 2012 02:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

And shortly before that, the hey day of pop-punk - Good Charlotte, sum41, etc.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 5 February 2012 02:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is the best FOB they ever did, sort of crushes me that it wasn't the massive massive MASSIVE moneymachine chart hit it deserved to be. love everything on it except for "W.A.M.S" and "west coast smoker". the five-song run from "the (shipped) gold standard" through "tiffany blews" kills me every time. have a hard time picking between "i don't care", "(coffee's for closers)", "27" and "20 dollar nose bleed". but $20 just for the hell of it.

"This Ain't a Scene..." kind of turned me off.

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, February 3, 2012 11:41 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so insane.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

"FOB they" = "thing FOB", or something

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm downloading Infinity now.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

infinity and folie are weird in that they both offer up an astonishing pop-crossover attempt right off the bat ("this ain't a scene" and "i don't care") but then tread water for a while and really come into their own only about halfway through (with "thnks fr the mmrs" and "the (shipped) gold standard"). is it that they think the fans expect the more generic stuff and frontload with it for that reason, or that they know they're badass enough to hold their best shit for the home stretch?

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

kind of think you're alone in regarding the lead singles as some of the best things on the albums, and i definitely don't understand your view of the running orders in general (although FAD does get really great at the halfway mark)

some dude, Sunday, 5 February 2012 04:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

"America's Suitehearts" probably could've been big since it's the closest they ever came to rewriting "Sugar, We're Going Down" but god that terrible video

some dude, Sunday, 5 February 2012 04:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

kind of think you're alone in regarding the lead singles as some of the best things on the albums...

― some dude, Saturday, February 4, 2012 8:22 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, me and whoever picks lead singles

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 04:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

you can't even say 'critically underloved' bcz there are people like Maura Johnston etc who've consistently repped

Who apart from Maura/Al (& that ex-Idolator/current-Village Voice kind've crew), critic-wise, repped for this? FoB/MCR/etc seemed like such a huge critical blind spot for the Pitchfork umbrella*, and it's a shame that they're likely to undergo some sort of Hall & Oates**-style period of neglect before getting their dues.

* twentysomethings disdaining "teenage" music, etc
** good reference point for Patrick Stump, actuallly

etc, Monday, 6 February 2012 09:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

I repped for it but got onto the album too late to pitch to pitchfork; and I'm guessing scott p would have been conscious about running a late review and what that would have been perceived to mean, if I had pitched anyway.

Tim F, Monday, 6 February 2012 09:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i mean i was one of the 6 voters the album got in Pazz & Jop in '08, which is more votes than a lot of albums got but by no means a major groundswell, and of course you have to play the 'what if' game with an album that dropped in mid-December

some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

also one of the other voters (not Tim) writes for Pitchfork! but i really think they never would've run a review no matter who pitched it when, that's how they roll for better or worse

some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

man, "she's my wynona" sticks in my head like nobody's business

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Would it be fair to say that this was FOB's Hysteria (in artistic, not commercial, terms)?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 10 February 2012 02:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

voted 'What A Catch' because the hook in that chorus, and Stump's vox...the whole thing still slays me.

and I get such a huge kick out of the arc of those 4 albums. Cork and Infinity kind of blend together for me, and then Grave and Folie are the nice raw/polished bookends. Love me some FOB.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 February 2012 02:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

wtf is this turnout

johnny crunch, Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

:,(

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

I forgot to vote, I think

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

saddest poll ever

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

I can't remember if I voted now! I thought I did. (However, I've been playing this almost constantly since I downloaded it. So the thread was definitely not a waste.)

Did two other people vote for "Coffee's for Closers"?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 February 2012 02:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

i voted 'coffees 4 closers'

couldve easily voted 'headfirst slide' & cant blieve it got 0 votes

johnny crunch, Saturday, 11 February 2012 02:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

yah put me down for headfirst slide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Saturday, 11 February 2012 02:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

i also thought i voted for "coffee's for closers"

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

but maybe i forgot to vote because i don't know anymore

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah me too -- idk ilx polls can get wonky imo or else i just almost always forget to vote

J0rdan S., Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

i've been listening to 'cork tree' this week... cool record, def like it less than the two that followed tho. it's funny to hear them so pop punk, like some drum sounds that could be on a blink record, and then there's these two MASSIVE singles. "nobody puts baby in the corner" is my favorite song even tho it has some o__O lyrics all over the place... esp the outro

J0rdan S., Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

or i guess it's a bridge

J0rdan S., Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

I really like Infinity the more I listen to it...everything sounds so big & meaty

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

thx tthread for making me listen to and enjoy this rec, jerks

bear, bear, bear, Sunday, 19 February 2012 14:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyway it's p sweet who knew not me

bear, bear, bear, Sunday, 19 February 2012 14:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

cheerz

illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 19 February 2012 14:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

your welcome

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Sunday, 19 February 2012 22:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

best album

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 September 2012 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

yup

J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 September 2012 19:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

yep

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 15 September 2012 20:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

uh huh

i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Saturday, 15 September 2012 20:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^^

Tim F, Sunday, 16 September 2012 04:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yet another album I never would have listened to without ILM.

MikoMcha, Sunday, 16 September 2012 12:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

I still kind of have mixed feelings about it though.

MikoMcha, Sunday, 16 September 2012 12:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

blows my mind that there's a rock song w/ Lil Wayne on it that's actually pretty great

nutrition aziz (some dude), Sunday, 16 September 2012 12:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Jay-Z intro to Infinity On High is another awesome/bizarre moment...

MikoMcha, Sunday, 16 September 2012 12:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

that Jay cameo being so awkward and half-assed is the reason why the Wayne cameo surprised me

nutrition aziz (some dude), Sunday, 16 September 2012 12:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

barthes simpson, Sunday, 16 September 2012 13:00 (1 year ago) Permalink


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