Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

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from what I understand, this is out on either the 21st of this month (Arbutus, US and Canada) or the 12th of next month (4AD, most everywhere else). and I hope that previous comments did not imply that I lack enthusiasm. I love Visions a lot, but despite all of the pop aspirations it feels like it was built to inspire obsession from a limited audience.

fffv, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

She definitely has the charm and hooks to pull to a wider audience but her songwriting could use some editing... many times it does sound like the songs drift without any specific purpose and as a whole it drags.

Moka, Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

For legit consumers, Visions streaming in its entirety

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can't. Don't have the bandwidth!

*cries*

Why couldn't this have been available 2 weeks ago when I still had all you can eat broadband?

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 13 February 2012 23:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Given there's nothing on the album I'm bored by, I think editing would inevitably mean reducing the idiosyncratic facets I'm charmed by.

Best thing about Grimes: she has such disinterest (contempt?) for lyrical content as she chirps through her baby birdsong. She might as well be the electropop version of Juliana Barwick..

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeh this is excellent

nathey, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

"skin" is very pretty, but a bit insubstantial, tho i guess "insubstantial" is kinda the point. soft, sweet, ghostly. don't hear no afx, but enya sure. and i don't hate enya, but i don't love this. got bored before the 6 minutes were up.

"oblivion" is much more immediate. the nothing lyrics are kind of selling me, "look into my eyes and la la la la la, see you on a dark night". that's great! love the synths at the end, too.

want more songs like "oblivion"

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Be A Body (侘寂) is totally going to be the next single, right?

dunno, but it's v nice. enya influence is even more prominent at the beginning, but j-lo too? love the shift to dark propulive beats halfway through.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

For lex:
Grimes namechecked a similar/sympatico artist Mozart's Sister whose voice might be more to your liking:

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ Also of Montreal.

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm gonna bookmark this thread for when I've topped up my data bcuz "electronic Juliana Barwick" = WCC catnip if I wasn't onboard already (which I have been since Halfaxa)

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

so she made this on garageband, huh?

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mozart's Sister is also v. good!

They have a three track EP called DEAR FEAR from last year. Maybe they have other stuff too? Not sure.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

yaaaaaarg, just listening to her stuff now (i'm always way late with everything) and enjoying it a lot. i just took a break from some incredibly bureaucratic shit at work to watch this video and i don't..think..i can go back to work again today

tmi but (Z S), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Skin reminds me of a mix between Enya and Natalie Imbruglia's smoke. Am I too off?

Moka, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Really can't believe we have come to a point where evoking the names Stacy Q and Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam results in a positive fucking review. I give up.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love this album cover!

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Friday, 17 February 2012 23:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, is awesome. post in the best of 2012 thread!

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 17 February 2012 23:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

after being completely underwhelmed by anything i heard of hers before this record (i'm kind of with lex on the voice thing), i'm really enjoying "oblivion" and "circumabient"

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 February 2012 01:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fucking adore this record.

Funny that Alex in Montreal referred to Braids upthread as this album strikes me as something of an electronic equivalent, simultaneously tuneful and spacious and drifting (whereas I think Juliana Barwick is a bit of a misleading point of comparison).

"Skin" esp. is wonderful.

Tim F, Saturday, 18 February 2012 06:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

i gave this a few more tries and while there's nothing i actively dislike about her music, neither is there anything hooking me back in - it's all vaguely "interesting", also very unmemorable and lite.

if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Saturday, 18 February 2012 11:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

cf julianna barwick who hooked me straight away, and gazelle twin whose music i absolutely adore sinking into. grimes has no gravitas.

if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Saturday, 18 February 2012 11:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

the cover of this record is really really bad. if you're going to rip off the sacred bones design scheme (which i really love), at least do it well!

jonathan - stl, Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

ripoff Sacred Bones serifs + some Cyrillic lorem ipsum + some 1994-bad-sci-fi-book-cover graphics + giant in-class notebook doodle-looking thing = a mess and I like it

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Tim. The BRAIDS reference was not accidental.

Visions is getting a 4AD release in the rest of the world, but Grimes and BRAIDS and Blue Hawaii a couple of other bands in the same general aesthetic universe were all on the same local label for a few years based out of Montreal.

A bunch of their early stuff is available for download by donation at the Arbutus website, including Geidi Primes and Halfaxa, the first two Grimes albums, and Blue Hawaii's Blooming Summer.

Not that that necessarily implies that they sound *the same* but their music is definitely in conversation with each other.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

And 'Skin' continues to be the standout for me - the first Grimes track that's hit me emotionally.

(That's not a backhanded compliment - I love the rest of her stuff, but Skin really gets to me.)

Other standouts: Infinite <3 without fulfillment, Genesis, Oblivion, Vowels = space and time, Be a Body (侘寂). Possibly Nightmusic.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

thanks for the links and suggestions, alex!

tmi but (Z S), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Of the first two Grimes album, I think Halfaxa is a bit more like this one - it's the clear transition to the kind of thing she's doing now, but I love Geidi Primes - it's a little less cohesive, but there's a lot of cool stuff going on.

The Blue Hawaii tape was one of my favourite albums of 2010 - the standout is 'Blue Gowns'. Blue Hawaii's vocalist = the lead vocalist from BRAIDS which should help determine if it's your thing or if you should steer clear - (aka this is a warning for Lex)

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Geidi Primes cover is also really lovely:

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Halfaxa got another similar weird "skull" motif cover everywhere else, but in Canada we got a photo negative of a topless woman with a bunch of purple.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

#!

Just found this - apparently there was a re-release of 'Halfaxa' with this track tossed in the middle of it and I never found out? This is lovely.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

laurel halo did an awesome remix of that track

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

And naturally it's not available anywhere but Europe. Dammit. (The Original. Not the Remix)

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

if you're going to rip off the sacred bones design scheme

well, it does "rip off" the sacred bones design scheme (general layout, fonts), but also pushes beyond it in interesting ways. and the drawing is wonderful. one of my favorite album covers of the year so far.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Skin is killing me. Be a Body (侘寂) too. all of them really.

I think the album really shows post-everything/Internet music doesn't have to just be some senseless exercise in referencing. like there's the Mr. Bungle/Girl Talk-style, 'yo look what just threw in' approach, but it can be done more selectively. like anything is available, but then you can pick out a finite set of elements with more purpose. this feels really cohesive and harmonious to me, like there's a logic to the aesthetic system she creates, and real emotional resonance (really gets to me actually). could probably work out some cultural meaning in this beyond just 'hey post-modernism waka waka'

Chris S, Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

cf julianna barwick who hooked me straight away, and gazelle twin whose music i absolutely adore sinking into. grimes has no gravitas.

― if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Saturday, February 18, 2012 11:15 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The (excellent) Frankie Rose album is much more in Julianna Barwick territory than this is, IMO.

Tim F, Sunday, 19 February 2012 11:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

She comes across as tremendously likable in the p4k interview I think - love how she invokes all this hi falutin stuff almost inevitably to have a go at herself, and she seems to anticipate a lot of the criticisms that people might want to throw at her without seeming like that's what she set out to do.

Tim F, Sunday, 19 February 2012 11:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Boucher, I mean.

Tim F, Sunday, 19 February 2012 11:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Smoke weed, listen to Mariah Carey. Hilarious, and awesome.

MikoMcha, Sunday, 19 February 2012 11:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

she seems like an excellent person! but i'm not hearing anything compelling in her music.

lex pretend, Sunday, 19 February 2012 15:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Frankie Rose is a vocalist, songwriter and musician living in Brooklyn, NY. She was formerly an original member of acclaimed garage rock acts Crystal Stilts, Dum Dum Girls, and the Vivian Girls.[1]

erm i'll stick with julianna barwick thanks :o

lex pretend, Sunday, 19 February 2012 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

her background really does not inform the new album at all

call all destroyer, Sunday, 19 February 2012 16:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha lex how do you ever manage to listen to gang gang dance without vomiting everywhere.

Tim F, Sunday, 19 February 2012 20:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

i carefully avoid finding out information about them that might turn me off.

no, if i google a new act and p4k AND stereogum are on the first page of results then i consider that a sign. dunno what the fuck "brooklyn vegan" is but with a name like that it can't be a good thing.

lex pretend, Sunday, 19 February 2012 22:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

rofl

illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 19 February 2012 22:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

man i wish i could not know what brooklyn vegan is

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Sunday, 19 February 2012 23:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

So obsessed with this album. Like I start to get really, really excited when I hear the piano-based second chorus in "Genesis" and that feeling doesn't really dissipate for the rest of the album.

Tim F, Monday, 20 February 2012 10:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

genesis was played yesterday morning on 6 music.

having seen the album artwork i was very pleasantly surprised as it was not what i expected at all.

sounded ace.

mark e, Monday, 20 February 2012 10:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

glad to see other people liking this so much. was kinda surprised to see some people so meh on it tbh (I mean yeah different strokes - but this is easily turning out to be album of the year so far for me)

Chris S, Monday, 20 February 2012 11:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

To be fair "Genesis" is by far the most cute tune on the album, there are some darker bits that go halfway to matching the cover.

Though in some ways gothstep feels so prevalent as the default move for artsy electro chicks that there's something unexpectedly refreshing-feeling about the combination of eerieness and intermittent cutesiness on Visions.

Tim F, Monday, 20 February 2012 12:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

people getting angry over this haha

― Raccoon Tanuki, 16. oktober 2014 17:23 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I am not angry. I am stating calmly and clearly, that what you write is factually wrong, and that you are a worthless troll. This isn't anger, this is fact. You have nothing to contribute, and you're wasting everyones time. So, quite frankly, shut up.

Frederik B, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:40 (1 week ago) Permalink

you're upset, just calm down.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:22 (1 week ago) Permalink

I love that gal Grimes. But that weird sheer top she wears with the felt on it, I hope she's not wearing that when she's 80. Amirite folks? I mean come on!

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:24 (1 week ago) Permalink

keep calm and FP

clouds, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:26 (1 week ago) Permalink

It's the Calm Police.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:26 (1 week ago) Permalink

they live inside of my head

clouds, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:28 (1 week ago) Permalink

I'm calm, calm as can be. I'm listening to Stars of the Lid and drinking tea.

Frederik B, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:32 (1 week ago) Permalink

Just going to update this exchange with hopes of keeping this thread delivering for a few more days.

Ariel Pink:

"They need something edgy. They need songwriting," he said. "She can’t just have her Avicii, her producers or whatever, come up with a new techno jam for her to gyrate to and pretend that she’s 20 years old. They actually need songs. I’m partly responsible for that return-to-values thing."
"I guess it’s called ‘throwback’, but the first record was so good because of the songs," he said. "It's been a downward slide (since). Ray of Light is not cool. And all the other stuff she’s done after that, it’s not like it matters. It really shows a drain of values. People need more substance in their mac-and-cheese. People need more sugar or something."

Grimes:

Ariel pinks delusional misogyny is emblematic of the kind of bullshit everyone woman in this industry faces daily. Also Ray of Light is a masterpiece. Even though she sucks now.

everything, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:38 (1 week ago) Permalink

a.p otm tho tbh

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:51 (1 week ago) Permalink

no one talking about putting sugar into mac and cheese can ever be OTM

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:03 (1 week ago) Permalink

He's not saying that you should put sugar in your mac-and-cheese.

He's saying people need more substance in their mac-and-cheese. He's also saying people need more sugar or something. Not necessarily in their mac-and-cheese though. Maybe just have a Mountain Dew at the same time.

everything, Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:14 (1 week ago) Permalink

He's saying people need more sugar. He's saying people need more sugar in their aero-plane sachets, he's saying fuck your mac, he's saying macs don't gyrate covered in sugarwashes and spray you in the face like a feminist outside a healthshake store.

I wonder if Grimes likes the eco-feminists in Futurama. I wonder if Grimes is a really uptight person who cant' take jokes and stuff. I wonder if Grimes talks off the cuff knowingly about things like witch house then mixes it up with a Beiber-is-underrated spin off. I wonder if Grimes spends too much time tweeting and shit. I wonder if Ariel is a crack head with greasy fucking hair like an unfamous lo-fi tramp who nobody knows.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:29 (1 week ago) Permalink

Quit being so got damn selfish
Put it in ya pelvis
Let it work, gyrate, motivate

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:32 (1 week ago) Permalink

I wonder if Grimes likes the eco-feminists in Futurama. I wonder if Grimes is a really uptight person who cant' take jokes and stuff.

flagged this post by the way. encourage others to do so too.

Treeship, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:48 (1 week ago) Permalink

It sickens me how many of her supporters are so patronizing toward her and treat her like a wounded animal who constantly needs defending and pats on the back. I'm a fan of both but her manic-pixie-dreamgirl stuff projected onto her by fans is so bizarre to me.

Ariel gets pat on the back 7 minutes into this.
http://pitchfork.com/news/56089-ariel-pink-i-got-maced-by-a-feminist/

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:09 (1 week ago) Permalink


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