Azealia Banks

haha c'mon people generally care way more about the vocals than the music in that song

“Life is the same,” she said, a sly smile forming between her churlish lips.
“Life is the same,” she said, a sly smile forming between her churlish lips.
“Life is the same,” she said, a sly smile forming between her churlish lips.
“Life is the same,” she said, a sly smile forming between her churlish lips.

just sounds annoying and derivative to me

Pile on cause there's lotsa room on the backlash train wooowoooo

"backlash" is just the word people use to intimidate others out of vocally disliking something popular or buzzed about

it's also a state wherein people see something popular or buzzed about attempt to engage that media with preconceived and/or inflated notions and walk away going "eh not so hot" less because of what the media is and more about what the surrounding response to that media is

now let's define strawman

i heard this song weeks ago before i had even even heard the buzz, and that was my opinion at that time

i don't see anyone accusing people of only liking this song because other people like it, so i don't see why anyone should be accused of only disliking it because other people like it. benefit of the doubt has to flow in both directions.

forks we've been hating on this shit since the moment we heard it, before it was 'buzzed about'

that explanation lex linked to is lol

I just went back and checked facebook to see when it was I first posted the video for "212": September 27, 2011

Not braggin (okay, maybe a little), but I was into this pre-buzz and I'm still into it now.

i'm just hearing it for the first time. sounds great. they used to call this "spank rock" tho.

that explanation lex linked to is lol

and this is tru

I just remember Alfred posting it on Facebook and saying "single of the year!" and when I played it my overall reaction was "... really?"

Basically my opinion is "it's no 'Rolling in the Deep'"

we could've ruined you cunt/ rolling in the deep

why does everything have to be rolling in the deep

It's either Rolling in the Deep or Video Games.

CHOOSE YOUR SIDE

actually if I could point to something that is the complete opposite of "rolling in the deep" it would be "212"

video games eazy

actually if I could point to something that is the complete opposite of "rolling in the deep" it would be "212"

Really? I'd probably point to Liturgy.

maybe we should just do a 'top 10 pazz & jop 2011 singles' poll to hash this out

i would point to silence

I think the complete opposite would be silence, no?

hahaha

silence is such a welcome relief after hearing 212

that explanation lex linked to is lol

why?

i kind of feel that whereas a lot of the other hyped acts of last year got a lot of writing devoted to both attacking and defending them, the banks detractors have barely elucidated their position at all. like i'm all for a good disagreement but all they're coming with is "she sucks" and "lol".

It’s a concept I learned doing Shakespeare shows—you give respect to the sounds, let them resonate through your body, and they will work for you, they will help you be truthful in your circumstances.

has this writer heard of MindValley?

well, i haven't. explain!

xp al, the point is that expectations get raised and that necessarily effects impressions. Eating a great hamburger from a place that you've never heard of makes it taste better than if you're going to a hot new restaurant. It's not about benefit of the doubt, it's about tampering with the jury

i don't think ANYONE here is faking like or dislike of anything! I fucking hope they aren't; that would be ridiculous.

❀ the cult of: ➥motivational speakers ➥life coaches ➥personal growth gurus ➥new-age charlatans ➥AWESOMENESS FEST xp

xp even if what you're saying is true, crying "backlash" when ppl express dislike over something popular is not exactly a fair assessment either

yeah i feel like at this point bad faith is pretty much implied by that phrase

why are we talking about hamburgers and liturgy

in the azealia banks thread

i pray that whopper gettin eaten

i think in most situations "backlash" could be more accurately described as: record stirs up buzz among the kind of listeners most inclined to enjoying it, then conversation around it gets loud enough that people less predisposed to loving it hear it and weigh in and the appearance of consensus dissipates

don't have a catchy two-syllable version of that, though, unfortunately

i think in most situations "backlash" could be more accurately described as: record stirs up buzz among the kind of listeners most inclined to enjoying it, then conversation around it gets loud enough that people less predisposed to loving it hear it and weigh in and the appearance of consensus dissipates

Every instance of "backlash" I can think of involves a fanbase turning on their object of affection (see: Britney Spears' "Gimme More" VMA performance; Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction; Lindsey Lohan; Charlie Sheen's meltdown; Miley Cyrus's stonerdom; no one who bought "Club Can't Handle Me" buying Flo Rida's subsequent album)

why?

i kind of feel that whereas a lot of the other hyped acts of last year got a lot of writing devoted to both attacking and defending them, the banks detractors have barely elucidated their position at all. like i'm all for a good disagreement but all they're coming with is "she sucks" and "lol".

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, February 3, 2012 11:39 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

writer spends a long time pointing out that 212 makes good use of internal rhymes/assonance and is effectively built around an "ew" sound. and that "you can rap about the dumbest, most useless shit ever as long as you sound hot on the track." which is all well and good, so long as you keep it simple and avoid instructive recourse to shakespeare...

A "backlash" is a popular negative reaction to something which has gained popularity, prominence, or influence. Although it can sometimes represent a categorical rejection of the idea, aesthetic, product, or fad in question, it is usually a reflection of a collective resentment of that thing's ubiquity in culture and media, rather than a denial of its existence. The term is commonly applied to gender and racial discrimination and religious discrimination against minority groups, as well, such as in response to certain events or circumstances (e.g. the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001).

i meant 'in most situations like this involving a hot new artist that get described as backlash' but yeah i didn't really state that explicitly sorry

like Britney, Janet, etc., that's definitely classic backlash archetype material, which is exactly why i bristle at it being used to describe the first 6 months of a YouTube meme's career

i think both some dude and DJP are right about backlash. two different tendencies can figure in: the spite of non-fans who become incensed by what they see as undeserved hype, and the spite of fans disappointed by changes in an artist's material or public persona.

I dunno, britney and janet situations seem like intentionally generated controversies, can you create your own backlash?

cuz in that case about 80% of madonna's career is backlash

yeah i guess the britney/janet things are a little too complex to be archetypal -- but those were big beloved artists who experienced a genuine wave of disinterest or distaste toward their new material, even beyond the media circus aspects of what happened

wow you guys really CAN argue about anything

Pile on cause there's lotsa room on the backlash train wooowoooo

― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, February 3, 2012 2:07 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maybe if you don't want to see an argument don't say shit like this, DJ Non-Drama

ha, it's not like i came here gunzablazing! that was in response to like five comments in a row about how not hot the artist in question was!

should've posted a gif of a choo choo train to keep the tone light