okay that Jex Thoth song is kicking my ass
― Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
wait which ilxor?
he has a wand
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
a mod needs to edit george's first post btw
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
tilting at windmills, but
― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
too throwbacky for this thread, but the vocals are clean and it's a good deal more accessible than most stuff that gets covered in rolling metal
― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
if we're doing stuff from a wee bit further back then this is glorious doom with pop chorus by the best trad doom band of the last 15 years
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
and my fave Slough Feg song. Trad heavy metal here in the vein of maiden/lizzy. maybe djp will dig it though poptimists might not.
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
drugs b righty!
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
I just recently acquired that Jex Thoth album, love it. Other than the EP a couple years ago, they've been quiet. Anyone know if they've got something in the pipeline for this year?
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
did you hear the Sabbath Assembly thing she sang on?
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
ok George how did we forget this big un
lol
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
Another good poppy doom song
wait a min, is that Ned on the cover of the Cauldron album?
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
cannot wait to hear that full christian mistress album. the two songs i've heard so far are stellar.
― Mordy, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
i pre-ordered it like 3 months ago
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
george it looks like the poptimists aren't interested :(
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
You shouldve linked to this thread when Uncle Acid placed on the countdown
― Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
i did (i think) but maybe pop fans just aren't interested in the bogeyman called metal?
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
Cher Lloyd - Sticks + StonesGhost - Opus Eponymous
Next to each other on my albums ballot. There's lots of great stuff in this thread. Pop / metal seems like a really natural crossover.
― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
probably a reaction against harsh vocals that long term metallers have got a bit fed up with without it going backwards to lame 80s glam pop metal stuff.
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
Maybe "poptimists" don't consider themselves poptimists (or realize there's no such thing?) Anyway, I'm not sure whether people consider me a poptimist or not, but I just wanted to mention that, just a couple years ago, people would give me hell on ILM's rolling metal thread whenever I complained that such and such band (or metal in general, then) "wasn't catchy enough," since (this is more or less a direct quote I think) "hooks haven't been important in metal since the '80s." Anyway, I'm glad lots of metal (and Rolling Metal) wound up coming around to my way of thinking. And I'm on record already as liking a lot of metal posted on this thread (and also on record as liking the Pistol Annies album, fwiw).
― xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
I also think I was fed up with vomit-style vocals before lots of other metallers around here were. (And I used to catch hell about that too!) Did like (and write about) that Jex Thoth album back when it came out, though. And that sort of thing (Blood Ceremony, Devils Blood, etc.) has only gotten better since, to my ears.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
if its good music then it doesnt matter if its growling or screeching or singing as long as it fits the music really. Im not a fan of death metal or heavy rawk 80s style vox. With the odd exceptions of course.but when all the music has the same vox it does get very boring quickly.
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
it might be a very basic thing to say but some things just sound good and some don't. And to another person it may be the opposite.
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
Well, I'd say one positive side effect of more audible/comprehensible/not-merely-ugly-and-"brutal" vocals is that some metal seems to be (I'm crossing my fingers anyway) turning slowly back into a music with actual songs, not just a sound. Songs you can actually tell apart, and remember when the album's over. Maybe to some people they never went away, and other people might not care. But to me, it's a healthy development.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
^^word
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think the reason people hated pop in metal was because it reminded them of 80s pop/glam metal, a lot of this newer stuff isn't like that. So now they have a new reference point and think 'hey this stuff isnt that bad after all'. Of course purists will hate it, but purists usually only listen to music thats ancient anyway as newer stuff isnt as pure or something.in short, fuck them.
but there's room for all. I love atmospheric stuff. I love good riffs. I do not think metal should be only "classic verse chorus verse" ( i hate those indie ppl i know who think all music should be britpop). It shouldn't be only 1 or 2 kinds of anything.
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
I interviewed Emile Sande last week. I told her I was disappointed when I listened to her album and found out that 'Breaking The Law' wasn't a cover of the Judas Priest NWOBHM classic.
She didn't know what I was referring to but she admitted that her interest had been aroused slightly.
― Conan The Asshander (Doran), Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol I was hoping for the same thing when I saw her album's tracklist.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
Not exactly pop but the intro for this is veeeery Bark Psychosis
http://youtu.be/Vb01CfEdkGI
― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
Have I succeeded in getting other people into Midnight Odyssey? YES.
― Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
i keep thinking of posting things but they would be more suited for a "hey avant garde noise freakos get into...METAL?!"
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
did someone post an ulver video yet or is that still exiled from metal town
or actually anything off of last years devin townsend album. pop people should really dig into latter day devin stuff.
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
The one Hammers of Misfortune song I heard sounded like Big Country (this is not a bad thing in my book btw)
― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
i am mostly alone in this obv but i was really disappointed in this most recent hammers of misfortune after really digging them up until now.
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
you should start that thread jjj
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 00:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
"hey avant garde noise freakos get into...METAL?!"
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 00:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
I sort of expected the Wolf People album to be a great uniter but then no one seemed to really notice it.
― Simon H., Friday, 3 February 2012 00:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
Wolf People are no Powerwolf.
― Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 3 February 2012 00:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
tim f did you play these yet?
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 13:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
I just wanted to mention that, just a couple years ago, people would give me hell on ILM's rolling metal thread whenever I complained that such and such band (or metal in general, then) "wasn't catchy enough,"
I think "people" in this phrase is really just ornery old me
thinking really hard lately about the latest retro wave in metal, which I think much of this stuff counts as - Ghost, Devil's Blood, my own favorite In Solitude, and also the new one by RAM which is excellent Hall of the Mountain Grill x Sad Wings of Destiny stuff: I think there's a fair amount of good songwriting in it, and generally less of the nostalgia-retro impulse that makes me dislike neo-thrash as much as I do. Feel like some of this stuff - especially Ghost and In Solitude - manage to sound sort of of-another-time without coming off irritating and romantic about it, which is a hard trick
naturally me being me I hope no crossover at all occurs & no new converts are gained
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 3 February 2012 13:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Are there many good metal vids out there? I stopped following just as web2.0 was kicking off so I have no idea. Is it literally just goths in churches or do they have better stuff than that?
I don't know if Red Fang's video's are "good" but they are certainly "fun" (in a very beery way):
― Phibes Kartel (NickB), Friday, 3 February 2012 14:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
i hear whiney's working on something abt this tbh
― dave cool, Friday, 3 February 2012 14:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
I actually had somebody else in mind, believe it or not. (And I had my ornery moments, now and then.)
Are there many good metal vids out there?
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2012 14:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't know if Red Fang's video's are "good" but they are certainly "fun" (in a very beery we receive money from pabst way)
― adolf jingle balls (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 15:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
― dave cool, Friday, February 3, 2012 9:18 AM (2 hours ago)
some of the coolest news I've heard yet! Thanks!
― Today is Cocaine's Birthday! (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
in solitude are great too
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
chuck have you heard the jpop metal that j3ff t is a big fan of?
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh i love Old Man Gloom (isis/converge spin off) bizarrely i got into Isis and Converge via them about a decade ago. They definitely don't fit the premise of this thread!
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm pretty sure Chuck wouldn't be into any of those. Ryu-5150, Iron Attack, and Kissing the Mirror are all Touhou metal, which basically means instrumental shred covers of songs from this one videogame series. Dragon Guardian is basically insane power metal. And Undead Corporation are melodic death metal in the vein of In Flames. None of which really tracks with Chuck's taste.
Aldious and Asriel, on the other hand, are female-fronted Gothic-ish metal with a heavy dose of pop. I would start there if you are going to start with Japanese stuff. Not the ones that AG is linking to.
― Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ha, thanks Jeff -- I might have more use for "insane power metal" than "female-fronted Gothic-ish metal with a heavy dose of pop" these days (couldn't really get into the new Lacuna Coil or Nightwish at all -- though my wife says I should ask you guys where I can get the new Gathering with that Octavia Sperati lady) but I'll keep those in mind.
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
I mean, it's the Japanese version of Gothic, which translates to this:
Which I would say sums up what Aldious sound like pretty well.
― Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
naff?
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ryu-5150, Iron Attack, and Kissing the Mirror are all Touhou metal, which basically means instrumental shred covers of songs from this one videogame series.
This broke my brain.
― Clarke B., Friday, 3 February 2012 23:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
you haven't even been subjected to it!
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
Here's an explanation: http://www.cracked.com/funny-1750-touhou/
Here's a rundown of some of the more notable bands from the genre:http://afsafe.blogspot.com/2011/06/big-four-of-touhou-metalrock.html
Also keep an eye out for an upcoming issue of Decibel where I give my thoughts on the latest releases from some of those bands.
― Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
scary
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
:-o
― (⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Saturday, 4 February 2012 17:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
Holy SHIT, that Uncle Acid track that kicks off the thread... So good. The last minute or so of unfurling solos... I owe you guys for the tip!
― Clarke B., Monday, 6 February 2012 03:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
― dave cool, Friday, February 3, 2012 9:18 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
bit.ly/I1uw28
― suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
like that whiney
torche gets better the more pop/90s jawboxy they get
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 22:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
i wish the whole world would get more jawboxy tbh
― Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
i agree!
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
i met the jawbox dude that was living here several times at parties and got all shoestarey every time to avoid being THAT DUDE and getting all slobbery abt how awesome they were
― Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh yeah wasn't he in a band here the Millions or something? i sadly never got out to see them
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
he played w/tom in some project as well which would have been fucking rad but i dont think they ever played out
― Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh shit that would've been some serious chops in the rhythm section
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
that was awesome, whiney!
― the endless white snow has never felt more textile (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 4 May 2012 05:35 (1 year ago) Permalink